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[VIDEO] Entry 67
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Geneaux486
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I wonder why Probably-Brian didn't give Tim the mask until after the fugue state had ended.

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KTsteve
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OOG complaining
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I try to read the thread from the start trying to get caught up on what everyone's thinking. Tons of good discussion for the first few pages. Deciding on what to put in the wiki, checking white noise, seeing if anyone can read lips, and just general theorycrafting. Enter Pravado post, every page from their on is arguing about whether or not the episode was filler/bad. How is that kind of discussion useful at all in an entry thread? Isn't trolling or derailing threads a bannable offense? Wouldn't that kind of post be better in the rage thread, or spoilered and marked as out of game? I keep trying to give unfiction a chance but dammit when stuff like that's allowed threads just become worthless.


For a good roundup of the entry:

Hoody left the tape so Jay would know Tim is still lying. He likely led them to the tape, since he knew they wouldn't find it.

It took place after entry 65

Operator is still protecting Alex, or just attracted to violence

Timasky/hoody get along still.

Hoody CAN actually take an offensive, and doesn't solely rely on masky.

Alex is still alive.

Tim either woke up with the gun (most likely) or he checked the time on his phone. Either way it's safe to assume he didn't tell Jay about it.

Speculation:

next entry is gonna be another lovers quarrel between Jay and Tim.

hoody silenced the part where alex was yelling because he said something possibly incriminating against him, or he just didn't want us to have to listen to all the swear words.

Wishful thinking: The quarrel next entry will be interrupted by hoody/alex/operator

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Supersox
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Operator Symbol?

Did anyone else notice the "X" on the door by the scene of the attack? It can be seen around 4:36.



Have we seen any "X"'s apart from the "official" operator symbol of the circled "X"? If so, do we know if there was an attack with an operator sighting shortly after?

I just wonder if the Operator Symbol has more to it. For example, maybe someone like Alex marks a location with an X so that the Operator knows where to show up to do whatever it is he does with the victims. Once a victim has been taken, perhaps the X receives a circle?

I know this is about to go into some massive speculation, but maybe the X opens the door from Operator Land and the circled X closes it? Maybe they have something to do with Slenderwalking?

I just find the X's appearance near the attack interesting and something that might need to be noted to keep an eye open for in the future. The letter X has already been used a lot in the series (see a lot of TTA's video "clues" and whatnot). Just some food for thought!

Also...did Alex draw the real operator symbol with his right foot? (Look around 4:47) It's strange because after the shouting, he seems to wipe the symbol out and the camera's focus is on that right foot as he is wiping the symbol out.



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Animal
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I think its a gun, just because Hoody is shown holding it 10 seconds before in the woods, could have planted it on Tim

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CraicIsMighty
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Did anyone else notice that Tim just sort of disappears after punching Alex? After he punches him it just cuts to Hoodie searching his pockets for the gun. Then Hoodie turns and Oppy is there but no sign of Tim. You don't see him again until the very end when he's laying in the field.

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michaelO2000
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I feel like Hoody is going to attack again soon because in "Entry #66" Tim (sarcastically) says "Why don't I wait for him to show up at my house again!?" I think this was foreshadowing that Hoody will break into Tim's house or maybe Jay's house soon.

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Ithilwen22
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I think the x's on the walls aren't important. I've noticed them in other entries, but no focus has been given to them, unlike operator symbols or the Liar graffiti. So
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OOG it's just drunken graffiti. XD


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Aeliott
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At 7:27 you see his right hand make a motion as if tapping a phone screen / keypad. Plus his left hand kind of cups underneath like most right-handed people do when holding phones, and his right hand in a position to tap/type if needed. I'm very certain that he was just checking the time and date, as we know he doesn't remember anything he does while in masky state; seeing how long he was "out" for. It'd be a bit awkward to hold a gun with you right-hand thumb in such a position on the top and your left hand cradling it.



Therefore, I also don't believe that Tim is still lying. Or at least, there's nothing to suggest so except a message written on the wall, though that has been there since before Jay and Tim truly trusted each other.

Still unsure about masky. He hangs back and lets Tim abuse Alex, and not for the first time. Seems like revenge for smashing his leg in? If hoody and mask-Tim are pals then maybe he's allowing him the pleasure of that revenge before killing him himself. Or was he threatened knowing it would cause the Operator to reveal himself? Argh, so many questions still! Razz

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pravado
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KTsteve wrote:
OOG complaining
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I try to read the thread from the start trying to get caught up on what everyone's thinking. Tons of good discussion for the first few pages. Deciding on what to put in the wiki, checking white noise, seeing if anyone can read lips, and just general theorycrafting. Enter Pravado post, every page from their on is arguing about whether or not the episode was filler/bad. How is that kind of discussion useful at all in an entry thread? Isn't trolling or derailing threads a bannable offense? Wouldn't that kind of post be better in the rage thread, or spoilered and marked as out of game? I keep trying to give unfiction a chance but dammit when stuff like that's allowed threads just become worthless.


For a good roundup of the entry:

Hoody left the tape so Jay would know Tim is still lying. He likely led them to the tape, since he knew they wouldn't find it.

It took place after entry 65

Operator is still protecting Alex, or just attracted to violence

Timasky/hoody get along still.

Hoody CAN actually take an offensive, and doesn't solely rely on masky.

Alex is still alive.

Tim either woke up with the gun (most likely) or he checked the time on his phone. Either way it's safe to assume he didn't tell Jay about it.

Speculation:

next entry is gonna be another lovers quarrel between Jay and Tim.

hoody silenced the part where alex was yelling because he said something possibly incriminating against him, or he just didn't want us to have to listen to all the swear words.

Wishful thinking: The quarrel next entry will be interrupted by hoody/alex/operator




We're here to discuss the entry. Good or bad opinion, everything I've posted has been related to the entry. There is nowhere stating that OOG elements have to be spoilered.

Blame the people who can't just ignore my posts and have to respond to it in such a way that makes me respond back to theirs. The blame for derailing can't all be placed on me.

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TheOperator
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Re: Operator Symbol?

This entry did not establish that Hoody feels the need to run from TO, nor does it establish that Masky and Hoody are allies. Remember Entry #45?

Supersox wrote:
Also...did Alex draw the real operator symbol with his right foot? (Look around 4:47) It's strange because after the shouting, he seems to wipe the symbol out and the camera's focus is on that right foot as he is wiping the symbol out.


Huh, that is pretty odd. There's also an Operator symbol in the hospital they kind of nonchalantly walk past in Entry #58. It seems to be kind of meaningless, at least at first glance. Maybe it marks when TO appeared to take Brian?



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Re: Operator Symbol?

Supersox wrote:

Also...did Alex draw the real operator symbol with his right foot?


Oh my Tim, I hadn't realised that!! But now that you say that, I think you might be right!
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SHODAN
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Gante wrote:

Look, Pravdo, "calling people out" is not the purpose of this forum.


The purpose of this forum is theoretically discussion of Marble Hornets, but in practice people seem to think it's a place to act like fangirls and bring out the pitchforks if anyone has any real criticism.

If you state an opinion, be prepared to back it up, otherwise don't cry when someone comes up with a legitimate counterpoint.

Speaking of which, while it's good to see Alex again, it left something to be desired. Honestly the overall structure needs to be changed from 'normal-ish entry, followed up by mysterious tape entry'. It drags out for too long and it's something we've seen again and again.

The substance of the entry seems to be tracking Alex, beat up Alex, Tim is around, TO shows up and Hoody GTFO's, Tim is outside for a bit.

The question then begins what the next step is, and I'm hoping they create some sort of new dynamic with Alex seemingly coming 'back' into the picture. I'm also hoping we get a new setting besides the hospital, it's getting a little played out and I'm not sure what other story elements you'd really get from it.

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LBfly
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Guys pay attention there are other entries (one is at the hospital, btw, cant remember the number) were Alex had drawn and FILMED the Operator symbol and it made an appearance soon after. Probably nothing because the Operator has already appeared in entries without the symbol being on screen and the symbol has already appeared without the Operator popping up, but i thought it was interesting because it happened in a couple of entries.

I checked the video again and the symbol is drawn in the floor right below Alex's right foot. I dont think he was trying to erase it tho.

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Foood
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I don't think the X's on the wall are meant to be unfinished operator symbols. It's an extremely common type of graffiti. If any graffiti in this entry is meaningful, I'd think it would be the "lake" that is written in the area where Alex is first seen.


But as Supersox brought up, is that an operator symbol drawn in the dirt near Alex's right foot? If so, that's pretty cool, and I bet Hoody wishes he did a better job tying up Alex's legs.

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pravado wrote:
They're just reusing the same plots over and over. Person A stalks person B, person B gets injured and we don't know what happens to them afterwards.


I kind of agree. There are little bits of revelation, and it's nice to see Alex's return, but it feels like they're going in circles. Call it trolling/buzzwords/derailing/whatever, but I think they can be doing more in regards to forwarding the plot without necessarily spoon-feeding it to us.

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