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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
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Seth
13%
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Brian
74%
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Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
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TheOperator
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Thanks for sharing that bit of the commentary, it was hilarious. Troy and Tim were probably considering rerecording the commentary the more Joseph talked there.

Won't say too much about how obvious I think the multiple actors thing is since you didn't say too much about it either.

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DHawk314 wrote:
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I've decided to just watch the Season 2 DVD commentary to put this to rest once and for all. In Entry #39, when the shadowy figure walks over Jay's car, they say this:

Quote:
Joseph: Spoilers I didn't actually have a camera in my hand here.
Tim: What? You just ruined everything.
Joseph: Yeah I know.
Tim: You just ruined the illusion.
Joseph: The camera that the...the person that...walks past that window- (Tim starts laughing)
Troy: Yeah.
Joseph: -is supposed to have is actually filming...them
Troy: Let's just-okay Joseph obviously just said that that was him that was doing it, but, that's just-
Joseph: That's not canon, that's not Alex.
Troy: Yeah...yeah...thanks for saying that, awesome.
Joseph: Whatever
Troy: You're just on a role with saying the wrong thing.
Joseph: I'm talking about ME personally, like Joseph Delage (Troy: Yeah) walking past the window (Troy: Yeah) was not holding a camera (Troy: Miming a camera)


So the shadowy figure was played by Joseph but wasn't supposed to be Alex. It was probably supposed to be Hoody, due to the totheark response (Forecast) and due to Hoody appearing in the next entry, but it's before Hoody's first appearance, and you can barely see him. Basically, whether or not you want to count that as another actor playing Hoody is interpretable.

Okay, the second reference people use for multiple actors playing Hoody from the Season 2 DVD is a special feature of them planning the blocking for Entry #45. In it, Troy does the block planning for Hoody. At the beginning is this message:

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Note: While setting up for this scene, Troy was standing in for the hooded character. It is not meant to imply that Jay is the one behind the mask. In the interest of avoiding spoilers, the actual name has been removed.


I bolded the first part to emphasize that it does not say Troy played Hoody in the Entry. As a matter of fact throughout the actual DVD feature, they say stuff like "______ will do this" "_____ will do that" implying the actor for the actual character played him in 45.

And then there's one last reference people use, from Troy's blog.

http://jtroyw.blogspot.com/2011/05/we-were-able-to-get-out-and-redo-shots.html

In it, Troy says Tim stood in for Joseph to help him shoot 41. At the time, everyone assumed this meant Joseph was supposed to play Hoody and was totally Hoody, and in response to that, Troy posted this blog post.

http://jtroyw.blogspot.com/2011/05/oog.html

In it, Troy basically says he leaves out a bunch of behind the scenes stuff on purpose to not spoil shit and we shouldn't assume he's implying something OOG that he hasn't said. The point is that no, at no point, ever, ever, ever, has anyone OOG ever said, at all, that multiple actors fill in for Hoody, unless you want to count 39, which I don't.

They didn't think it'd be a good idea to have someone else fill in just cause Hoody wears a mask and you can't see their face, which I think would be foolish considering how much MH fans are obviously gonna analyze the body type. They thought it was a good idea because it was shadowy and you can't see jack shit, which makes perfect sense cause you really can't tell anything about the person in 39, so as far as I'm concerned it's a different concept.

pipete21 wrote:
Sorry if this has been said before but its been said OOG that different actors have played Hoody in different entries. Therefore, it's pointless to argue about his identity with evidence about his build, the way he walks, or the way his coughing sounds(?).


Okay, let's say for the sake of argument I buy that multiple actors play Hoody, which I don't. I'd really like to bring up my old point: They wouldn't have a male stand-in for a female character. Not if their body type was gonna be shown explicitly, which at this point it has, and they were gonna have a coughing scene where you could tell it was a male pretty obviously. Even if they do have stand-ins, the fact that they have male stand-ins means it's probably a male character. Seriously, if it turns out they're female, and she just looks and sounds male cause they've had other actors play her, that will come off seriously stupid.

Since I've finally gone through the actual evidence, I'm not gonna go on a big rant about this again. Next time someone says something about Hoody being played by different actors being confirmed OOG I'll just link to this post. Like I say, he could be, but it's totally speculation, having zero to do with OOG confirmations.


Thank you very much for posting that clarification, I've been wondering about the specifics behind that.

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Ztakk wrote:
I'm almost certain that they said somewhere in the commentary that they had someone else stand in for Hoody. I'm going to re-watch it tonight to check though.


Well did you re-watch it? What did you find?
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Okay, so after Entry #80 I had a goofy idea. If this has been said previously then I apologize. Obviously don't read the next part unless you've seen Entry #80.

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So, Jay gets shot, but we don't actually see him die. Yes, we see him bleeding on the ground, but he's still alive when The Operator 'snatches' him and, presumably, takes him to another dimension. We know from a past entry that it seems possible to escape that other dimension. We also know that TO's dimensions can be wibbly in respect to time.

So, here's this: Jay gets snatched by TO, somehow manages to escape and gets to a hospital in time to recover from the gunshot (hey, it happens). He quickly finds out that he has escaped into a past point of time. It's from here that he decides to help, uh, himself. To do this he dons Hoody and does... everything he's been doing. Wasn't it TTA who 'hacked' Jay's Youtube and Twitter? Pretty easy to get into someone's account when you already know their passwords.

Now, when Hoody freed Jay from his bindings, that would seem like a questionable act since it can be said (in fact Tim said it himself) that if Jay had stayed in the house then he wouldn't have been shot and snatched. So why would Hoody doom his other self to the same fate? Simply to keep -himself- in existence. If Jay doesn't go to TO's realm to escape then Hoody never exists. To answer another rule of time travel, the main point of the Hoody garb is to keep Jay (and others) from finding out there's another version of himself running around and thus causing the universe to implode or something.

Anyway, Hoody Jay probably knows a helluva lot more than regular Jay ever did; he maybe even learned things about The Operator while in it's realm, hard to say. But basically he protects himself rather than his old self in the hopes of putting an end to the chaos.

Another thing that just popped into my head, what if The Ark is The Operator? Or, as was mentioned in the Entry thread, what if The Ark is TO's realm? "You will lead me to The Ark", more like "Take yourself to The Ark so I don't have to worry about you screwing over the timelines".

So yeah, that's my theory. It's kind of nuts and honestly not fully baked since its something that literally just occurred to me after watching the recent entry. I may be forgetting some things that Trosephim have spoken about, but honestly I don't remember anything being said, absolute word of god, that Jay is not Hoody, period.

Also, I posted this here since this is the Hoody thread and it's a Hoody theory, but it is a lot related to Entry #80 so if you think it's better off there I could post it there.


EDIT: Yes, I realize that the theory was posted in that thread now, stupid slow text editing skills Sad

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DHawk314 wrote:
Ztakk wrote:
I'm almost certain that they said somewhere in the commentary that they had someone else stand in for Hoody. I'm going to re-watch it tonight to check though.


Well did you re-watch it? What did you find?


Oh yeah forgot to post. Yeah I rewatched the entire S2 DVD, you're right. They NEVER said anywhere they had multiple people play Hoody.

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Okay, I'm going to bring up Hoody knowing Jay's safe combination again. Hoody only had a few ways to know that safe combination. It's easy to assume they simply followed and overheard the conversation but how could they have followed two cars to a hotel in time to hear the conversation, on foot? Not to mention, they then get Jessica out of there months later, rather than right away, which would have made more sense if they had been there to overhear it.

Short of magically knowing everything, there are precious few ways Hoody could have known that combination.

1. Jessica was working with Hoody. This doesn't seem likely, since she didn't recognise them in #76.
2. They're Future Jay.
3. They somehow knew what the combination would be, without being there to hear Jessica suggest it. This would require more than just guessing it's the last four digits of her phone number. They would have to know Jessica well enough to know she'd suggest that. The only candidate who knew Jessica is Amy.

If anyone has any other explanations, I'd like to hear them. Do seriously consider this though. How was that note with the safe combination left behind for Jay? Is there a reasonable explanation for it? If Hoody is Brian or Seth and they just used super guessing powers or their quiet-interrogation-while-Jay-is-right-next-door expertise, I daresay I'd have a hard time buying it.

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brian is my choice because hes the only one with enough screentime for the reveal to be meaningful

alex in conjuction with brian is also possible

@ above guy
hoody has been cknstantly following people and listening to their conversations and just generally being a sneaky fuck

i dont think its a big stretch for him to have heard jess and jay taljing about the safe

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Agreeing with Jibbles on that one. Jay and Jessica were standing outside a conveniently placed fence that Hoody was behind at one point that we know of (entry 76) so it's not a stretch to think he was there and listening in on the conversation.
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Hoody would have had to either somehow follow a car on foot or have known to be at that hotel. Both of which seem impossible. And again, if Hoody was there from the beginning, why wait so long to "rescue" Jessica?

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TheOperator wrote:
Hoody would have had to either somehow follow a car on foot or have known to be at that hotel. Both of which seem impossible. And again, if Hoody was there from the beginning, why wait so long to "rescue" Jessica?


They didn't go straight to the hotel though. Jessica went home first and then went to the hotel later. And since Jay gave her the address for the hotel while standing out in the open at Rosswood Park, the address could have been overheard.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying this future Jay thing at all. It's a big plot twist, not a great one, there's been no build up to anything remotely resembling time travel (time manipulation so far has been in accelerating time only in real world) and I just don't see the creators using that as a plot device.
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I suppose Hoody could have been hiding by that tree, since Jay never points the camera at it. Jay also wasn't exactly speaking in a hushed voice at the time. They'd be a little screwed if that hotel wasn't possible to walk to within an hour but they could have got lucky there.

Even so, the point about Hoody taking months to get Jessica still stands. It seems to me that Hoody had been searching for Jessica all that time and only found her after #32.

While Future Jay would explain a few things, there isn't a whole lot of evidence for it. Amy seems most plausible to me at this point because of how much Hoody knows, then Future Jay for the same reason, then Brian and Seth because they would need to be masters of guessing, luck and knowing everything in order to be Hoody.

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Why would Amy know anything?
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Beidah wrote:
Why would Amy know anything?


Yeah, it seems like she would know less than everyone else because Alex seemed to be keeping her out of the loop as much as possible.
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She's the only one who could potentially know Jessica would use 1102 as a combination without needing to overhear the conversation, as they were roommates.

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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
Beidah wrote:
Why would Amy know anything?


Yeah, it seems like she would know less than everyone else because Alex seemed to be keeping her out of the loop as much as possible.


It's funny you say "out of the loop" given the possibility of a time loop, lol. This is yet another plot hole/mystery that future Jay as Hoody resolves. Fight it all you want guys, but don't dismiss it so easily when it makes so much sense. Smile

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