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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Seth
13%
 13%  [ 17 ]
Brian
74%
 74%  [ 94 ]
Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 126

 
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Neroslol
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my first thought as to who TTA is was originally Tim, Seth and Brian. But given events that have happened I truly believe they 100% killed off Seth, leaving Tim, and Brian (with his split personalities) and we know the "leader" manipulated Tim's split personalities to his advantages, making him carry out his actions. But i think that Brian is hoody. Given the relationship Tim and Brian have had in the past it would explain why they collaborated at one point. I also think Brian has been affected from TO's sickness way more than Tim, which is why he never talks, grunts, farts etc. Tim got treatment to help him with his afflictions from TO but maybe Brian couldn't have been able to mitigate the damage that has already been done to him.

whoever hoody is, they obviously are the ringleader if you want to call it that; to ToTheArk. But personally I think hoody/Brian is TTA. To me, Hoody is assumed TTA since in entry 42 we can see him by a tree in the video, in entry 41 he takes the camera to Jay's car, and in TTA's response to 42 with "intermission" he specifically states, "did you see me?"

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On reflection I think it would be kind of cool if Hoody was Amy, if only for the irony of Alex shooting at her in Entry 76 and then introducing himself to the amnesiac Jessica as "Alex, Amy's boyfriend".

EDIT: Woah, just noticed something on my rewatch of Entry 77 - Tim mentions that the college they were given the address to in 75 - the one that features in 79 and 80 - may be the one Alex transferred to in order to be with Amy. If Amy were a student there, she'd know her way around the place pretty well - and based on the evidence of those Entries Hoody seems to know their way around the place too.

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Plus (I'm sure this was discussed before), if it was Hoody writing on the back of the picture of Amy with ostensibly Alex's "ransom" note, it make for a nice bit of symmetry to have Hoody be Amy.

Easy to forget that Brian's body got dragged away by Alex at the hospital, which would make for a strange bit of Hoody resurrection, if he was actually dead. Then again, Amy was totally clueless about the camera when Alex asked her to put it away, and freaked out when TO showed up in the apartment. Not very Hoody-like.

Does Hoody have to have been out of the narrative when they make their first appearance? Very confusing when you throw in TTA.

I think I'd better go and read more of this thread, I'm probably repeating things.

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rkmobius wrote:
Plus (I'm sure this was discussed before), if it was Hoody writing on the back of the picture of Amy with ostensibly Alex's "ransom" note, it make for a nice bit of symmetry to have Hoody be Amy.

Easy to forget that Brian's body got dragged away by Alex at the hospital, which would make for a strange bit of Hoody resurrection, if he was actually dead. Then again, Amy was totally clueless about the camera when Alex asked her to put it away, and freaked out when TO showed up in the apartment. Not very Hoody-like.

Yeah, I think if Amy is Hoody it might only work if she became Hoody at some point after Entry 26.

On the other hand, Tim doesn't behave much like Masky when he isn't Masky. "That isn't how that person behaves" or "that person ought to remember [whatever]" are arguments which don't really work when you are dealing with bizarre split personalities and memory gaps.

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It's plausible that Tim, as Masky, was totheark in Season 1, and that Hoody began making videos in Season 2, taking over full time in Season 3. As such, Hoody only needs to have been involved since his first appearance in Entry #41, which is chronologically between Entries 26 and 27, so it could be Amy. Depending on your view of how Tim's Masky personality operates exactly, it's even possible Tim recruited her somehow.

That being said, I recently re-watched the Marble Hornets Season 2 DVD commentary in which, during Entry #45 they happen to refer to Hoody as "He" a few times. And even prior to that I was operating off something of an assumption that he was male, do to appearance and voice. But, it's possible Troy changed his mind about who the character was, or that they were just being weird and tricky.

The one thing I'll say is that totheark began saying "Us" back in Season 1, and that Tim (You can tell it's his voice) saids "We" and "Us" back in Entry ######, so I am under the impression some other party was involved with Tim back then in terms of the whole totheark thing. At the time people theorized he meant himself and the Operator, but in light of recent revelations it seems as though the two of them are not on the same team. Once again, it is possible that could be explained Troy rewriting things.

As for Brian's body, I do think it's a valid point that Alex dragged it away. Assuming he was trying to kill Brian, it's weird that he would just leave his body there alive; you'd think he'd check is he was breathing, and finish the job if he wasn't. Then again, Alex didn't have a gun back then so it's possible he didn't have anyway to finish the job. Also, the way he was going about those "Killings" was weird. He hit Tim in the head but left him there for the Operator. Then when he survived the Operator he tried to go after him seemingly to finish him off, but why not just finish him off to begin with? And Tim was still there in Entry #51 coughing; why did Alex just leave him there?

Seth's seeming end is more ambiguous; it seems as though the Operator took him, but in retrospect it's possible Alex attacked him. We don't particularly see what happened on camera. Still, there's more of a reason, if the Operator teleported him and Alex away, for Alex to have spared him then with Brian who was still right there. Also, many people think Alex was lying at the end of Entry #22 or that it was doctored, causing more ambiguity. That's not even mentioning Sarah who seems to have had a similar end, making what happened to her extremely ambiguous. Although, when it comes to her surviving to be Hoody, you still have to accept the fact that Hoody seems male.

Also, there's something of a precedent for Alex leaving people alive after knocking them out, besides Tim in the aforementioned entry. For instance, he knocks Jay out, but seemingly panics and runs away. Jay also looks just as dead as Brian did, but of course Jay didn't die; if he did the YouTube channel wouldn't exist. So between Alex's weird motives and methods (It's not actually clear he was trying to kill all of them, it's just generally inferred) and a variety of other things, I've come to these conclusions:

- It's implied totheark was not working alone, or was multiple people, as far back as Season 1, although this is heavily interpretable.
- Tim may have been totheark in Season 1, if not he was definitely working with them. Hoody may or may not have been involved.
- Hoody was been involved at least as early as around a month after Entry #26, which is when Entry #41 took place.
- Hoody has appeared on screen with the Operator, Tim, Jay, Jessica, and Alex. As such, assuming he is a named Marble Hornets character, the possible candidates are: Brian, Seth, Sarah or Amy.
- There is no other party known to have ever worked with Tim or totheark besides Hoody; as such, the hints that totheark was not working alone in Season 1 may refer to him. Since Amy was not involved back in Season 1, this leaves the potential candidates at: Brian, Seth or Sarah.
- There are reasons to believe Hoody is male. This leaves the list at: Brian or Seth.
- Alex is seen with Brian's unconscious body, possible implying that he died. Since we see no such thing with Seth, he may be the only leftover candidate.

That being said, I still believe it is Brian, mostly due to prominence; his "End" was seen much more recently then Seth's, he has appeared much more, and he has appeared more recently. In addition, he is revealed to be missing as of Entry #15 - Interview with Tim while the rest are not revealed to be so until Entry #22, and his missingness is important throughout Season 1 due to the prominence of his frequently returned to his abandoned house. Tim also continues to mention him in Season 3, referring to him as his first real friend.

How much of this evidence you want to take into account is up to interpretation, most of it is pretty vague. I just think it's good to put it all out there.
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DHawk314 does throw out some pretty well observations, and I'll try and add more to the "Brian=hoody" argument. In entry 15 when Tim is interviewed by Jay, Jay starts to ask him questions about Brian. Entry 15 is posted AFTER TTA was created (First TTA activity was a response to entry 9) and the way Tim responds to Jays questions regarding Brian, he Seems very dismissive for someone who knows absolutely "nothing" as he claims about one of his best friend's where abouts Which leads me to believe he was hiding something from Jay and still is to this point. . I was rewatching the series and thought that was interesting the way he talks about Brian. I'm not sure i've stated this before or if someone else said it, Brian and Tim have been friends for a very long time. Which I believe why Tim maybe brought Brian in later on, but then Brian realized how weak-minded Tim was and used it to his advantage, afterwards Tim leaves TTA and helps Jay out.

Whoever TTA is, they're very good at orchestrating events to turn in their favor (for the most part.) Given the fact that Tim has had longtime exposure to TO sickness I also believe it affected Brian(same with others, but maybe to a different degree) as well, which is why he is able to keep the "hoody" demeanor so well, and he was the star of marble hornets too which isn't automatic proof that hoody is Brian just because of his acting but I think it is worth noting none the less.

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AbyssalRook
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Just an interesting observation I made when watching the series again: The distortions.

Or specifically, what / who causes them. There are 3 people (The Operator isn't really a 'person', so I'm not counting him) that seem to cause distortion in videos by their presence.

1) Alex. Specifically, when he gets particularly aggressive. His distortions also seem to be the worst next to TO himself.

2) Tim. It's less prevalent than Alex's, and usually only comes up when he's coughing severely, or when he's in full Masky mode. Further, recently it doesn't seem to happen as much.

3) Jay. This we haven't seen quite so much, but it did come up sometimes, where Jay himself, apparently completely alone, would set off the camera's ohshit-o-meter just a little bit. This, however, could be chalked up to either Masky/Tim/Alex following close by, or him being stalked by Slendy. Anyway, it's a possibility that he's the cause of a small amount of it, and usually when he's under great distress. That being said, we don't know if the distortion after the shot was Alex or Jay, or maybe both.

Now, there's one interesting thing about this:

Hoodie doesn't cause any. Not by himself, anyway. He'll walk on screen and there will be no visual tearing, no audio crackling, nothing. The only time it happens when he's around, it's been when Alex is right there and angry, when Tim is having his attacks, or when TO's quick to follow. It might be nothing, but I think this is kind of important, especially considering that Masky does set if off quite often, especially if he gets in close.

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TheManPF
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I believe Jay did cause audio distortion by himself in #51 if I'm not mistaken, when he got angry

Also, Hoody did cause some distortion in his first appearance (#41) and so did Jessica when confessing to Jay (#32)

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I'd have to say Seth. I don't think it was ever really clear what happened to him, and he has camera experience. At any rate, its definitely not Alex, Jay, Tim, Jessica, Sarah, or Amy. By this point, it feels like it's been stressed that hoody is one person, not multiple. He has a male body type, so no Amy, sarah, or Jessica. Hes been on screen with Jay, Tim, and Alex already. So that leaves Brian or Seth. Brian seems unlikely to me.

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Just out of curiosity, could you elaborate exactly why Brian seems unlikely?

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TheManPF
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I see everyone discussing the identity of Hoody and mentioning if he's male or female

Are you all forgetting his (pretty masculine) cough from just an entry ago?

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TheManPF wrote:
I believe Jay did cause audio distortion by himself in #51 if I'm not mistaken, when he got angry

Also, Hoody did cause some distortion in his first appearance (#41) and so did Jessica when confessing to Jay (#32)


You're right, and I also stand corrected. He also caused the distortion in 73, when he was nearly out of meds. However, it's still an important distinction that he is acting completely on a different level than Masky, and even when working WITH Tim as Masky, it was more like he was using Tim to attack Alex. In fact, it happened twice, using Tim to attack Alex. Once in the woods when TO chased them off, and once in the abandoned building when he got the gun from Alex, and TO stopped him.

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I think hes dead. Plus, i don't think he had the technical camera skills to be TTA/hoody. In 51 he had trouble setting up a tripod. Not great evidence, i suppose, but that's my perspective. We never actually saw what happened to Seth, other than him dropping the camera.

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cliswp wrote:
I think hes dead. Plus, i don't think he had the technical camera skills to be TTA/hoody. In 51 he had trouble setting up a tripod. Not great evidence, i suppose, but that's my perspective. We never actually saw what happened to Seth, other than him dropping the camera.


I tossed the Jay is TTA / Hoodie theory when I realized that Hoodie is way too quiet, stealthy, efficient, and effective Razz .

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AbyssalRook wrote:
cliswp wrote:
I think hes dead. Plus, i don't think he had the technical camera skills to be TTA/hoody. In 51 he had trouble setting up a tripod. Not great evidence, i suppose, but that's my perspective. We never actually saw what happened to Seth, other than him dropping the camera.


I tossed the Jay is TTA / Hoodie theory when I realized that Hoodie is way too quiet, stealthy, efficient, and effective Razz .
i was referring to Brian

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