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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Seth
13%
 13%  [ 17 ]
Brian
74%
 74%  [ 94 ]
Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 126
 

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Who do you think is Hoody, post your theory after choosing.
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TheOperator
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Zarggg wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Not invalid but unsatisfying, particularly because they have acted like we should be wondering with those identity teases. Brian's Hoody, okay. Why wait 2 and a half years to tell us that.

Because if we immediately knew who Hoody was two and a half years ago, then we'd understand his motivations. Right now, a lot of the "scare" of the character is that we really don't know what side he's on. At best, we assume that he's on his own side, but we don't yet know what his endgame is.


Didn't have to be immediate, just not as long as it has been. And the presentation of the mystery, with the shots where Hoody's unmasked face is just out of frame or Alex is asked who it is but doesn't give a straight answer, only works if we're actually not sure who it is. Everybody either thinks it's Brian or acknowledges he's a very strong candidate, moreso than most other characters. It wouldn't be an issue if the mystery hadn't gone on so long, we know that Season 2 was originally going to be where it ended, so it would have made sense to reveal it was Brian there, as people wouldn't have had as long to catch on or spend as much time speculating beyond the obvious choice.

I agree it is very spooky when we're not sure whether to trust Hoody. It was a greatly shocking moment in Entry #79 when Hoody picked up the wrench and swung it at Jay. Another good shock again in Entry #80 when Alex actually shot Jay, despite it being Hoody who told Jay to go to Benedict Hall. With an unmasking will probably come a better indication of what Hoody is trying to do. Still, they could have utilised these scare tactics earlier, before the mystery became this drawn out.

I'm speaking in regards a hypothetical outcome, of course, Hoody's arc could still be resolved in a satisfying way. I just get more worried the longer it takes. They've built this up for a really long time so there has to be a worthy payoff.

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Sha Noran
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 		You just sound impatient for answers, TheOperator. I can understand how you feel, but from a writing standpoint, I'm glad we still don't know his identity. Hoody's identity and, by extension, TTA's identity are central to the over arching mystery of the entire plot. If that were revealed, it might answer all our questions at once in a sort of snowball effect. I would put the mystery of TTA's identity on par with "what happened during the '06 shooting of Marble Hornets"? Since we have been told by 'word of god' that TO's origin will not be discussed, then I don't think there is anything bigger driving the mystery.

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Geneaux486
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 		Unless Brian somehow magically transformed into someone else, it's probably still Brian.

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Scowleasy
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 		I'm still hoping that Hoody is a reincarnated Bruce, back from the dead to exact his revenge.

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Jordan
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Scowleasy wrote:
I'm still hoping that Hoody is a reincarnated Bruce, back from the dead to exact his revenge.


Smile

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scompers
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 		Hoody = Jay + Alex + Tim
Hoody is alternately Tim and Alex, although Tim at least is not aware of this. Jay may be too.
Hoody is Alex and Tim and sometimes Jay, and none of them remember being Hoody, or at least Tim and Jay don't. Think A Scanner Darkly. When The Operator (or someone else?) is manipulating them, they become Hoody during that time.

We know that both Tim and Jay them have memory lapses, Alex we're not sure about. It's during some or all of these times that they take on the role of Hoody.

This is how Hoody knows where Tim's medicine is hidden (and has keys to his car) - he IS Tim.

When Jay runs into Hoody at the school, just look at Hoody's build - it looks like Tim. And he's coughing like Tim.

Then look at Hoody when Tim sees him briefly while hiding in the pipe in Entry #81, at around 8:56. He is markedly thinner, because he is Alex.

So this is what happens over the last few entries:

- Jay goes to Tim's house, and Tim ties him up and goes to the school, which we see in Entry #81.
- He searches around but it's getting dark so he says he's going to go home and come back the next day (Entry #81, 3:5Cool.
- During the unfilmed time, Tim blacks out and becomes Hoody. He goes back to the house where he left Jay, gives him a knife to free himself, and leaves Jay his camera.
- Tim goes back to the school, and Jay follows him. Tim ends up in the upstairs of the building as Hoody, possibly after having stolen his own medication from his car. Jay finds him coughing, and Tim swings a wrench at him and runs out - FAST. He has just enough time to get across the street and take off the mask and hood in an adjacent building before Jay gets his bearings enough to look out the window and see Tim coming out of the building - WITHOUT A CAMERA. Why else would he have gone into that building without his camera?
- Tim then goes to his car, puts on the camera, and tries to get into Benedict Hall. It's locked, and he eventually goes down into the maintenance entrance where he finds the manhole.
- Tim looks for a crowbar while Jay watches from the building opposite.
- Time goes down into the maintenance tunnels and hides as he sees a now much thinner hoody climb down from above. This is Alex. Shortly thereafter, Tim climbs up and exits Benedict Hall, where he sees Alex, now out of Hoody costume, walking upstairs, shutting the door behind him quietly, and then running off. We know it can't be Jay because we see Tim's exit from Jay's perspective at the beginning of Entry #80.
- Jay goes over to Benedict Hall where he runs into Alex and gets shot.
- Tim comes back at night (after doing who knows what), finds Jay missing, and runs into Alex, who is now dressed as Hoody and escapes.

- Tim being Hoody explains how he's able to know where all Tim's stuff is, mess with his medical records, and "hack" the YouTube account repeatedly.
- Jay must be Hoody at some point in this theory, because there's the scene in a much earlier entry where Masky/Tim and Hoody attack Alex. Hoody is Jay at this point.

Also, from a purely meta perspective, the actors playing Tim, Jay, and Alex seem to be the only people really actively involved in MH at this point - Jessica appeared in that one Entry recently but there is nothing else that can't be accounted for by a mere three people.

One last thing - it wasn't Alex living in Tim's house - it was Jay. We never actually see his face when he comes down from the attic and looks out the window, Tim just assumes it was Alex.

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Minato
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 		Even though I can agree with most of the "Jay, Alex and Tim are Hoody Theory", there's still one problem: How come they always wear the same clothes? How would they share the same hood, gloves, etc.?

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 		Reading TheOperator's last post (about how long they've drawn out the mystery of Hoody's identity) made me think. Maybe they had to storywise, so that when it is revealed (if it's Brian), Tim's reaction will be that much more visceral. Think about it: This person has stalked him and Jay for years, stolen his meds and left him at the mercy of his masked persona, and Tim puts the blame for Jay's death squarely on his shoulders ("you set this up!"). How do you suppose he's going to react when he finds out it was his long lost friend, the first friend he ever had, all along? And how will that reaction impact the story?

ETA: now that I think of it, did Jay ever actually meet Brian? I think the closest he came was in #54, but he left at the same time Seth did, so missed the shenanigans in Tim's apartment...

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TheJoker
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 		Though they supposedly all went to the same college at the time. We don't really know how well they all knew each other back then. Considering the memory issues people in this series are, it's possible Jay doesn't really know either (which is kinda undermining the point I'm trying to make, I'm just gonna stop now.)

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Correction: Didn't. Jay *didn't* really know either. Sad


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JAL13
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Reading TheOperator's last post (about how long they've drawn out the mystery of Hoody's identity) made me think. Maybe they had to storywise, so that when it is revealed (if it's Brian), Tim's reaction will be that much more visceral. Think about it: This person has stalked him and Jay for years, stolen his meds and left him at the mercy of his masked persona, and Tim puts the blame for Jay's death squarely on his shoulders ("you set this up!"). How do you suppose he's going to react when he finds out it was his long lost friend, the first friend he ever had, all along? And how will that reaction impact the story?

ETA: now that I think of it, did Jay ever actually meet Brian? I think the closest he came was in #54, but he left at the same time Seth did, so missed the shenanigans in Tim's apartment...


I really like that. It would make sense for Tim to be the one to have Hoody's identity revealed to him. His emotional connection to Brian (if it is him) would be so loaded.

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TheOperator
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SilentMedusa wrote:
ETA: now that I think of it, did Jay ever actually meet Brian? I think the closest he came was in #54, but he left at the same time Seth did, so missed the shenanigans in Tim's apartment...


I believe Brian is always mysteriously missing whenever Jay's around and vice versa. Probably just a coincidence but pretty interesting.

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Sha Noran
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Reading TheOperator's last post (about how long they've drawn out the mystery of Hoody's identity) made me think. Maybe they had to storywise, so that when it is revealed (if it's Brian), Tim's reaction will be that much more visceral. Think about it: This person has stalked him and Jay for years, stolen his meds and left him at the mercy of his masked persona, and Tim puts the blame for Jay's death squarely on his shoulders ("you set this up!"). How do you suppose he's going to react when he finds out it was his long lost friend, the first friend he ever had, all along? And how will that reaction impact the story?

ETA: now that I think of it, did Jay ever actually meet Brian? I think the closest he came was in #54, but he left at the same time Seth did, so missed the shenanigans in Tim's apartment...


I really like the point made here a lot.

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 		@Minato: There's plenty of ways it could happen, though I think the simplest is that they each have their own copy of the outfit. Although, even in the case that there's only one, looking at the events at the school, Alex would have had more than ample time to go into the building where Tim took off the Hoody costume and put it on while Jay was following Tim all over the place.

Also, think of what a mind**** it would be if Jay or Tim were to stumble upon Hoody's clothes...and there's more than one set of them.

EDIT: fixed typo

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Minato
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 		Now that I think about it, it's very hard to believe in that theory since we saw Alex questioning Hoody about Jay and Tim's location. Which, for me, it's absolute proof that Hoody is neither Jay, Tim and let alone Alex.

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Sha Noran
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 		Also, in Entry 81 we see that Tim saw Hoody flee a building that Alex was in and Jay was watching, accounting for all three of them not being Hoody. I find your theory interesting, but unlikely.

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