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[VIDEO] Entry #68
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HouseOfLeaves
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pravado wrote:
What I want to know is, even though we think of these things, do the creators? I feel like so many little details we base theories on aren't thought about at all when making entries.


I imagine that's often the case, but I'd say it's a two-way street as well. To date, I'm sure there are little secrets in older TTA entries that still haven't been decoded.

Also, I have to say I really like the idea of TTA/Hoody being two separate people. A lot of people were surprised to discover that Timasky and TTA weren't one in the same and this would be a very clever way of reusing that trick. Seth as TTA and Brian as Hoody seems to make a lot of sense indeed...Endgame is getting closer and closer, so we shall soon see!

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Ztakk
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 		Just a thought, the footage of Alex going into the basement tunnel could have taken place before this entry. Like Hoodie was in the tunnel (for whatever reason) and Alex found him there (again for whatever reason) and Hoodie beat the hell out of him again (hence why Alex still has bruises and whatnot yet facial hair has grown). We may see the footage from this in a TTA entry or another found tape

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Or it could just be a continuity error with Troy wanting to have a lot of videos out before his surgery


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granitemoth88
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 		Three things.

1. Why exactly is Hoody filming himself?

2. I think that face looks most like Brian's.

3. The building in this entry reminds me of the building in Entry 35. It's not the same building, but the road near it definitely looks similar. As does the large room with small room in corner layout.

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granitemoth88
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Ztakk wrote:
Just a thought, the footage of Alex going into the basement tunnel could have taken place before this entry. Like Hoodie was in the tunnel (for whatever reason) and Alex found him there (again for whatever reason) and Hoodie beat the hell out of him again (hence why Alex still has bruises and whatnot yet facial hair has grown). We may see the footage from this in a TTA entry or another found tape

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Or it could just be a continuity error with Troy wanting to have a lot of videos out before his surgery


There is a bulge in Hoody's right pocket, like the shape of a thin handheld flashlight maybe. You can see it plain as day when he's sitting on the mattress in Entry 68, and also at around 4:26 or 4:27 in Entry 67. That really could mean nothing though, as there's no way of knowing how long or how often he's been carrying whatever it is.

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aidansean
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granitemoth88 wrote:
3. The building in this entry reminds me of the building in Entry 35. It's not the same building, but the road near it definitely looks similar. As does the large room with small room in corner layout.


OOG:
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It is the same road as the one in Entry #35.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:00 pm
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sour diesel
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 		Even though Brian was only in one more entry than Seth was, I still can't bring myself to think Seth = Hoody. Brian seemed to have a bigger role with Alex luring him out to the hospital and getting owned by Slendy. Seth was more or less just kind of a background character in other shoots and his involvement seems rather trivial.

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censura_umbra wrote:
pravado wrote:
Brian appears in entries 7, 51, 54, and 55


Seth appears in entry 9, 22, and 54


Brian appears in one more entry than Seth, that's not a significant amount considering he was an actor on the movie and would therefore be on more of the footage

They do have access to his actor, as he appeared in entry 54 at the start of this season


Fair point.

But in an attempt to prove that screen cap is of Brian, I took the image of him from the top right corner, enlarged it, rotated it, and overplayed it with varying transparency.

Low and behold it fits very well. Especially the nose, eyes, mouth and hair. As well as the eyebrow bone.

Here is a link to the album with the pics.

http://imgur.com/lnv4KHi&ytM8ca6&fK5RMDd&KIuQpVD


Can't believe I missed this, great job!

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ledzepfilm
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 		I would prefer Hoody to be Brian. Seth isn't really that important to me.

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ledzepfilm
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aidansean wrote:
granitemoth88 wrote:
3. The building in this entry reminds me of the building in Entry 35. It's not the same building, but the road near it definitely looks similar. As does the large room with small room in corner layout.


OOG:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It is the same road as the one in Entry #35.


I was trying to look for abandoned locations near the 35 house/annex/abandoned hospital area, and I found a few, near the field where the video starts. Maybe this takes place after 66?

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pravado
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LBfly wrote:
It is the second time that Hoody leads someone to the tunnel.
Jay managed to flee safe and sound even trapped down there with the Operator in his ass.
Alex is not going to have any harm too, if the theory Operator+Alex is correct. So why that place?

That tunnel is near the hospital. Wasn't the hospital far enough that they would have to split money for gas? If Hoody's shack is in the Rosswood Park, then obvious teletransportation happened in this entry.

Oh btw I agree with someone who said that Alex and Hoody may have already worked together. It matches with the chair scene in entry #67, in my vision Alex was trying to convince Hoody of something, like "I HAVE NO CHOICE, DONT YOU SEE" or "I TRIED TO HELP BUT YOU DONT LISTEN" or anything following these lines.


He was talking about the drive being far from the town where they filmed MH, which was far from rosswood. This hut isn't confirmed as being near rosswood either.


Anyway, those of you saying Seth has no significance... do you guys not remember entry 22? Seth was taken just as Brian was. Seth was also brought back for a season 3 entry

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ledzepfilm
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pravado wrote:
(snip)


In my eyes (not saying this is right or wrong), Seth was a supporting character; of course he has a bit of significance, but he's not a character that will affect the story - he just develops it. If Seth was Hoody, he would be significant. Same with Brian, but he's a little more important than Seth, inferring that this was his face that was in the frame of that Entry. But what makes me wonder is that why do Seth/Brian make these videos? And why do THEY want to find the ark (whatever that is)?

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Foood
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LBfly wrote:
That tunnel is near the hospital. Wasn't the hospital far enough that they would have to split money for gas? If Hoody's shack is in the Rosswood Park, then obvious teletransportation happened in this entry.


pravado wrote:

He was talking about the drive being far from the town where they filmed MH, which was far from rosswood. This hut isn't confirmed as being near rosswood either.


In Entry #58, Tim says that the hospital's just down the road from Rosswood. So Hoody's shack in Rosswood park and his other shack near the hospital are in the same general area. Dunno if that's what you guys were trying to say.

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Felloffalot
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This entry in a nutshell.

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McGregor
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Also, if Hoodie is Brian, why does Hoodie seem to rely on Timasky to be the muscle all the time? I'd think Brian is probably of equal if not greater strength than Tim.


So he takes all the hits, silly.

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Jingleman
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 		Observations:

- Hoody apparently didn't replace his mask before Alex showed up. "Wipe that smile off..." would have been really entertaining if Alex had been referring to the mask. I guess, technically, we could parse the edits and see if it's possible that the mask went back on and then off again before we see it later, but it's not really very plausible.

- Assuming Hoody's mask was off during the scuffle, Alex knows Hoody's identity.

- It probably doesn't matter that Alex knows Hoody's identity because nobody would believe him.

- "We are trapped" is interesting. It loops Hoody in with Jay (and probably Tim). Hoody apparently believes that wherever Jay and Tim have gone, it's not beyond the reach of the Operator. It's unclear whether Hoody knows the location, but he's known every move they've made so far, and his role in the series seems to be predicated on his superior knowledge of everything that goes on. Also, I wonder if "We" here includes Alex; does Hoody sympathize with Alex, even though Hoody feels he has no choice but to use extreme methods against Alex?

- I like the idea that Alex's black eye comes from the Operator, a la #14. Maybe Alex was hurt because he lost track of Jay or Tim, causing him to confront Hoody in desperation?

- Hoody promises that Alex will not find him again (at least without Hoody allowing it). I'm inclined to believe him because that's the point of the character - he's two steps ahead of everybody else in the series. It makes me wonder if Hoody allowed Alex to get as close as he did because he knew that Alex would be looking for Jay, and Hoody wanted Jay to have that information, vividly.

- The significance of the tunnel appears so far to be exclusively Hoody-based, i.e., Hoody keeps going into the tunnel, and so things happen there, rather than there being any intrinsic significance to it. Hoody put the files there, and Hoody hid in there. Alex and the Operator seemed to follow other characters, but I haven't seen anything that made me think that the tunnel is important other than that Hoody thinks it's a good hiding place.

- I have no opinion on the face screenshot, except that I wouldn't be so quick to assume that it's a clue to Hoody's identity. It could just as easily be a metaphor for something or a reminder of what Alex has done. I'm just saying, let's not get our hopes up and spend the whole next gap analyzing that one frame when there's a wealth of cool stuff in this entry.

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RevDickJenkins
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aidansean wrote:
Maybe a side effect of slender sickness is that things don't heal. Alex could have been walking around with bruises like that for months.


That just sparked something.

Bruce's body didn't decompose in the slender-dimension.
Alex's wounds don't heal in the slender-dimension.

Assuming this is true, which I believe it is, that'd give us a decent time-frame of how long Alex actually spends in that dimension, and also explains why we hadn't seen him for so long.

This does also support 2 theories to some extent, If Alex is going to be slowly Oppified, surely constant exposure to that dimension would do it. If not that, then TO probably has Alex locked in there until he needs his own Masky to his Hoody, per sé.

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