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How long has Tim known the Operator?
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Osttle
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How long has Tim known the Operator?
What were his "hallucinations"?

Has he known it since childhood?
Was he lying about not remembering his hallucinations?
Was TO his hallucination?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:19 am
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Pretty sure the implication is that he's known it since childhood, and that it's what he was seeing in his "hallucinations". But, I do think if he could remember it, he'd have let on, by now. Especially since Jay's started seeing shit. Instead, he insists he doesn't know what he saw, then, but he's definitely seeing TO, now.

So, yeah. I'm thinking if he's still lying about something (as opposed to just not telling Jay that he's been a headcase for a long time and was in that hospital) it's something else. Like maybe he's leading Jay closer to the truth so he can trade Jay to TO, in exchange for his own freedom. Or maybe 'lying' isn't even the word we want, despite it being the word that got used in the graffiti. He might not know he's holding something back.
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Good idea, Masky definitely knows stuff. I mean really. Tim is really a chamber of secrets

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Osttle wrote:
Good idea, Masky definitely knows stuff. I mean really. Tim is really a chamber of secrets


Indeed.

I think Tim is telling the truth here, but only because Tim and Masky are separate sides of the same person. After all, if Tim can't remember anything he does while he's Masky, it's entirely plausible that Masky can "know" and "remember" things that Tim can't.

I really only have two major questions on the subject of Tim, TO, and Masky:

1) Why did TO choose Tim? What benefit does Tim specifically provide (what does it want from him that it can't get from anyone else)?

2) What are Masky's intentions? I have a feeling that his only interest is protecting Tim, which goes along with my theory that he's like a seizure-induced, warped, self-defensive form of sleepwalking. But regardless of whether or not I'm right about that, he's still a big mystery.

On a semi-related note, if Tim does develop a sort of "friendship" with Jay, and if Masky really does only want what's best for Tim, it'll be interesting to see if he extends that protective focus towards Jay (kind of like in #52).

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CenturyChild wrote:
On a semi-related note, if Tim does develop a sort of "friendship" with Jay, and if Masky really does only want what's best for Tim, it'll be interesting to see if he extends that protective focus towards Jay (kind of like in #52).


I think a friendship between the two is starting to develop. Remember Tim's reaction when he saw Jay lying on the ground in Entry #72?
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Craig Digsby wrote:
CenturyChild wrote:
On a semi-related note, if Tim does develop a sort of "friendship" with Jay, and if Masky really does only want what's best for Tim, it'll be interesting to see if he extends that protective focus towards Jay (kind of like in #52).


I think a friendship between the two is starting to develop. Remember Tim's reaction when he saw Jay lying on the ground in Entry #72?

Not only that, but also some genuine concern, especially with all the shit he went through.
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CenturyChild wrote:
1) Why did TO choose Tim? What benefit does Tim specifically provide (what does it want from him that it can't get from anyone else)?

I don't think the answer to this question, interesting as it may well be, is very important. You could make an analogy to relationships and ask why some guy finds a particular girl attractive and worth committing to, so much so that he doesn't want to be with anyone else but her (and, of course, the same goes for a girl who commits to a guy). Could that guy probably find tons of other girls out there who would give him almost exactly what this girl who he feels so attached to gives him? Of course he could; however, he chose her for some reason in the first place, and he still chooses to stay with her above anyone else. This could be a parallel to why the Operator chose to continue to be interested in Tim — he found Tim for some reason, and now that he's getting something from Tim that's keeping him around, he sees to no plausible reason to abandon him now. Of course, I'm not trying to imply that the Operator has some sort of romantic interest in Tim, but make of that what you will. Wink

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I have two different ideas that could fit.

1) Tim has indeed some sort of mental problem that made TO's presence worst for him than to other children, so TO directed his attention towards Tim and all the shit begun.


2) TO, for some reason, started messing up with Tim as a child, so the fear, the paranoia and the stress of being stalked by a monster affected the little kid's behaviour and the slendersickness begun. All of this made the doctors think that something was wrong in Tim's mind. They told him that the monster he saw was just in his imagination, that he was hallucinating, but of course, he was not hallucinating at all. I think he can't remember his hallucinatios because we all know what TO does with the memories... maybe at first, he saw the Operator, but then the paranoia made him not able to discern when TO was really there and when he imaginated it, and this is maybe what is happening to Jay.
We can also asume that his split personality started also in Tim's childhood, and Tim seems not to remember what goes on when Masky takes control, so it could also be a reason why he doesn't remember.

I think the second one is the most plausible, but it doesn't explain why was Tim chosen.
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Craig Digsby wrote:
CenturyChild wrote:
On a semi-related note, if Tim does develop a sort of "friendship" with Jay, and if Masky really does only want what's best for Tim, it'll be interesting to see if he extends that protective focus towards Jay (kind of like in #52).


I think a friendship between the two is starting to develop. Remember Tim's reaction when he saw Jay lying on the ground in Entry #72?

Not only that, but also some genuine concern, especially with all the shit he went through.


Yup. It was exactly what I was referring to.

Having Masky as a bodyguard would be so badass.

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Tim did say that he was taken to The Hospital when he was little, He of course was probably friends with Alex since they both lived near Rosswood. If you rewatch Entry #66 He explains it all to Jay, Tim was the probable cause of Alex being stalked since he knew Alex well and accidentally lead Oppykins to him, So Tim talks about em hallucinations and the seizures are on his medical file, he has to take pills SO I IS SAYIN DAT TIM KNEW OPPYKINS SINCE TODDLER YEARS!

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Mr_Slen wrote:
Tim did say that he was taken to The Hospital when he was little, He of course was probably friends with Alex since they both lived near Rosswood. If you rewatch Entry #66 He explains it all to Jay, Tim was the probable cause of Alex being stalked since he knew Alex well and accidentally lead Oppykins to him, So Tim talks about em hallucinations and the seizures are on his medical file, he has to take pills SO I IS SAYIN DAT TIM KNEW OPPYKINS SINCE TODDLER YEARS!


Watch Entry #15 and #66 again.

Entry #15:

TIM: "Um, I don't really remember [Alex] much. I mean, he was a friend of Brian's so I didn't really talk to him that much. I mean, he just kinda asked me to be the part of the cast for the sake of convenience."
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JAY: "...he [Alex] did move away after he ended his production. Do you know what might have caused him to do that, or even where he might have gone to?"
TIM: "I didn't even know he had moved away. I mean, like I said, Brian was really the one who was friends with him. I was just kinda along was for the ride."

Entry #66:

JAY: "...these hallucinations — what did they look like?"
TIM: "Well that's the thing, I can't remember any of them! Probably 'cause the medication... it didn't cure me exactly, but, it kinda leveled me out enough that I was able to go to a normal school, got transferred to another facility... got into college, that's where I met Brian, the first real friend I remember having."
JAY: "That's where you met Alex too, right?"
TIM: -nods- "Yeah..."

It's pretty clear that Tim met Alex through Brian, and wasn't in fact friends with him as a child.
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I'm afraid I would be taking any such claims from Tim with a grain of salt.
If all the "liar" messages from Hoody pertain to Tim, he may yet be concealing info from us. (and I'm fairly sure that Tim believes the "liar" messages from Hoody to be directed at him... otherwise why would he attack the message on the wall?)

Also....Tim and Jay both have huge swathes of memory erased. Who is to say that Tim accurately remembers his childhood, especially if he was receiving visits from Dr. Oppy back then? Childhood memories are pretty tenuous to begin with. After all he acted as if he barely remembered Jay, even though Jay was active in the original Marble Hornets production. Even Jay barely remembers anything during that time 6 years ago.

I'm afraid I won't be drawing such solid conclusions until the truth is finally revealed, by confession or video.

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Craig Digsby wrote:
Mr_Slen wrote:
Tim did say that he was taken to The Hospital when he was little, He of course was probably friends with Alex since they both lived near Rosswood. If you rewatch Entry #66 He explains it all to Jay, Tim was the probable cause of Alex being stalked since he knew Alex well and accidentally lead Oppykins to him, So Tim talks about em hallucinations and the seizures are on his medical file, he has to take pills SO I IS SAYIN DAT TIM KNEW OPPYKINS SINCE TODDLER YEARS!


Watch Entry #15 and #66 again.

Entry #15:

TIM: "Um, I don't really remember [Alex] much. I mean, he was a friend of Brian's so I didn't really talk to him that much. I mean, he just kinda asked me to be the part of the cast for the sake of convenience."
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JAY: "...he [Alex] did move away after he ended his production. Do you know what might have caused him to do that, or even where he might have gone to?"
TIM: "I didn't even know he had moved away. I mean, like I said, Brian was really the one who was friends with him. I was just kinda along was for the ride."

Entry #66:

JAY: "...these hallucinations — what did they look like?"
TIM: "Well that's the thing, I can't remember any of them! Probably 'cause the medication... it didn't cure me exactly, but, it kinda leveled me out enough that I was able to go to a normal school, got transferred to another facility... got into college, that's where I met Brian, the first real friend I remember having."
JAY: "That's where you met Alex, too, right?"
TIM: -nods- "Yeah..."

It's pretty clear that Tim met Alex through Brian, and wasn't in fact friends with him as a child.
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Mr_Slen wrote:
Craig Digsby wrote:
Mr_Slen wrote:
Tim did say that he was taken to The Hospital when he was little, He of course was probably friends with Alex since they both lived near Rosswood. If you rewatch Entry #66 He explains it all to Jay, Tim was the probable cause of Alex being stalked since he knew Alex well and accidentally lead Oppykins to him, So Tim talks about em hallucinations and the seizures are on his medical file, he has to take pills SO I IS SAYIN DAT TIM KNEW OPPYKINS SINCE TODDLER YEARS!


Watch Entry #15 and #66 again.

Entry #15:

TIM: "Um, I don't really remember [Alex] much. I mean, he was a friend of Brian's so I didn't really talk to him that much. I mean, he just kinda asked me to be the part of the cast for the sake of convenience."
_____________________________________________________________

JAY: "...he [Alex] did move away after he ended his production. Do you know what might have caused him to do that, or even where he might have gone to?"
TIM: "I didn't even know he had moved away. I mean, like I said, Brian was really the one who was friends with him. I was just kinda along was for the ride."

Entry #66:

JAY: "...these hallucinations — what did they look like?"
TIM: "Well that's the thing, I can't remember any of them! Probably 'cause the medication... it didn't cure me exactly, but, it kinda leveled me out enough that I was able to go to a normal school, got transferred to another facility... got into college, that's where I met Brian, the first real friend I remember having."
JAY: "That's where you met Alex, too, right?"
TIM: -nods- "Yeah..."

It's pretty clear that Tim met Alex through Brian, and wasn't in fact friends with him as a child.
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Now don't quote me on this (lookin at you Digsby), but if memory serves, it wasn't clear if Tim had mental problems before TO started stalking him, or if TO caused them. All we know about his past is from his medical records, or from what he told us in #66; which is that he's had mental problems since he was a kid, and TO was involved somehow.

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