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[Trailhead] Karen is Missing
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Zobot257
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They are, and the person running the Karenismissing email address can NOT be trusted. I tried engaging in a bit of discource with him, and after asking a question, kept getting DIFFERENT answers. After my second email asking for more information, I got a email spam with DIFFERENT psychological conditions, over and over again, waaay more emails, 18 in total count.

Someone has a screw loose, it seems... I think they're just attributing random conditons to her to make us think she's messed up in the head

EDIT: Ok, just when I was willing to write it off as being totally a spambot designed to keep us off our toes, something happened that was legitimately surprising. I got a coherent, if insulting, response that may be part of a puzzle or something. I'm going to repost the whole conversation here just in case someone else can make sense of it. As usual, the most recent emails are at the top and the start of the conversation is at the bottom.

Quote:
maybe you shoulD conSider reading More books.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hopefulhero
Sent: 03/22/13 08:35 PM
To: Joseph B.
Subject: Re: Requesting details on the subject

Ack I get it stop!

Look behind you!

Schizoaffective Disorder

Dissociative Identity Disorder

Mood disorder NOS

Dementia with behavioral disturbance

Dissociative Disorder NOS

Dissociative Disorder NOS

Dissociative Amnesia

Factitious disorder with predominantly psychological signs and symptoms

Dissociative Disorder NOS

Schizophrenia- Catatonic type

Factitious disorder NOS

Dissociative Disorder NOS

Dissociative Amnesia

Factitious disorder NOS

Major depressive disorder, single episode, mild

Bipolar Disorder- Type I, Unspecified, MRE- hypo-maniac

Dissociative Amnesia

Dissociative Disorder NOS

----- Original Message -----
From: Hopefulhero
Sent: 03/22/13 08:12 PM
To: Joseph B.
Subject: Re: Requesting details on the subject

She has bipolar disorder? More information on this subject would be helpful. How does it manifest?

On Mar 22, 2013, at 7:45 PM, "Joseph B." <karenismissing> wrote:

Bipolar Disorder- NOS

----- Original Message -----
From: Hopefulhero
Sent: 03/22/13 04:48 PM
To: KarenismissingSPLATmail.com
Subject: Requesting details on the subject

Good evening!

I'm am requesting more information on the subject of the missing flier that's been put out. I intend to seek this lady out so I can help you find her, and I'll need more to go on, if possible.


Keep in mind each of those disorders was sent in a SEPARATE EMAIL, in rapid succession, to me after my second reply back to him. The last one, with the odd-capitalized letters and the signs of intelligence was sent after I requested whoever it is stop.

Wonder what he said by "read more books." Was it some kind of implication that all these conditions are related? Something hidden between the lines I'm not seeing? Or just an insult to my intelligence? Anyways, if anyone sees something I'm missing, let me know.

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Amalie
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"DSM" could be a reference to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders?

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Zobot257
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I got another response back from him!

Quote:
I'Ve heard That reading can be veRy helpful.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hopefulhero
Sent: 03/22/13 09:07 PM
To: Joseph B.
Subject: Re: Requesting details on the subject

And here I was about to downgrade you to "malfunctioning spambot". Ok, "Joseph B."... and what books should I read?


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Amalie
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Hm. Is this helpful? http://www.psychiatry.org/practice/dsm/dsm-iv-tr

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Zobot257
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...ok, whoever it is is just screwing with me. Good to know. Thanks Amalie.

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cajeck
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Zobot257 wrote:
...ok, whoever it is is just screwing with me. Good to know. Thanks Amalie.


Umm...wait. Doesn't each disorder have a diagnostic code? I mean, yes, he could just be sending you on a wild goose chase, but what if there's a pattern there?

UPDATE:

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Like this, for Major Depression Disorder. He said single episode. Partial remission. Mild. These are the codes--

296.25 In Partial Remission
296.21 Mild


UPDATE (...again):

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Found a list that will help:

http://behavenet.com/dsm-iv-tr-numerical-listing-codes-and-diagnoses


UPDATE (once more, with feeling!)

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From the list in your email, zobot, I went ahead and looked up the diagnostic codes. I didn't do repeats, though you had a few. I don't know if that was purposeful or not, so we should keep that in mind. I have no idea what this could mean, but if you guys want to trust I didn't screw this up, here's the list of codes:

295.20 – Schizophrenia, Catatonic Type
295.70 – Schizoaffective Disorder
300.14 – Dissociative Identity Disorder
296.90 – Mood Disorder NOS
294.11 – Dementia with behavioral disturbance
300.16 – Factitious Disorder with Predominantly Psychological Signs and Symptoms
300.15 – Dissociative Disorder NOS
300.19 – Factitious Disorder NOS
300.12 – Dissociative Amnesia
296.21 – Major Depression Disorder, Single Episode, Mild
296.40 – Bipolar I Disorder, MRE Hypomanic


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Jim Sawyer
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In the video (URL written on post it note of agent report thing) Does anyone recognize the sticker/symbol thing on the back of Nicole's phone when Karen takes it off her the second time (After she kills the guy). It could be nothing but she seemed to make a point of showing it to the camera but I couldn't get a decent still shot of it.

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TallulahBelle
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I'm willing to bet that the B stands for Blackwell as in daddy Blackwell and he is trying to tell us something.

Edit: He is. And you were right. First try of simple letter replacement gives OLLDUSLO STOP LOOKING. I'll try to figure out whats wrong with the beginning.

Edit 2: Baby steps: HOLD US LO STOP LOOKING. Zobot, you sure about the order?

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Zobot257
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TallulahBelle wrote:
I'm willing to bet that the B stands for Blackwell as in daddy Blackwell and he is trying to tell us something.

Edit: He is. And you were right. First try of simple letter replacement gives OLLDUSLO STOP LOOKING. I'll try to figure out whats wrong with the beginning.

Edit 2: Baby steps: HOLD US LO STOP LOOKING. Zobot, you sure about the order?


...!

Gah, I can't believe I wrote off a clue as someone just teasing me! I'm off my game, definitely been a while since I've ARG'd.

I'm PRETTY sure that's the right order? I'll go back and check the dates and see if I missed one once I get to a computer today. On my mobile phone it's not quite as easy to read.

Has anyone else heard anything from anyone?

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Amalie
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First (only) one I got was "MDD, single episode, in partial remission" at 8:46 PM EST. Don't know if that's relevant though.

Edit: TallulahBelle, what kind of letter replacement did you do? Since they were talking about books, it could also be in a "page.word/letter" format?

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njberry
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i think we need to try and find an email or something for Nicole, as her accounts are being watched we need some way of contacting her in privet

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Amalie
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I just sent her a private message on YouTube asking for her email address.

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cajeck
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TallulahBelle, I'm curious what letter replacement you used as well.

njberry, it's difficult for Nicole to share information electronically--because we can assume that Karen's pursuers have a lot of resources and can track just about anything--even email. It's more important that she disguises the important information she wants to share, and I told her as much. I've gotten a few responses from her on Tumblr. She doesn't really have any new information to share right now. Karen hasn't gotten back to her yet. The only thing of note she had to share was that the local wildlife seems to be behaving oddly, but it isn't related to the leads we have right now.

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Amalie
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cajeck wrote:
TallulahBelle, I'm curious what letter replacement you used as well.

njberry, it's difficult for Nicole to share information electronically--because we can assume that Karen's pursuers have a lot of resources and can track just about anything--even email. It's more important that she disguises the important information she wants to share, and I told her as much. I've gotten a few responses from her on Tumblr. She doesn't really have any new information to share right now. Karen hasn't gotten back to her yet. The only thing of note she had to share was that the local wildlife seems to be behaving oddly, but it isn't related to the leads we have right now.


Could be relevant. Haven't there been mentions of different animals? Cats, rats, snakes, horses?

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cajeck wrote:
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njberry, it's difficult for Nicole to share information electronically--because we can assume that Karen's pursuers have a lot of resources and can track just about anything--even email. It's more important that she disguises the important information she wants to share, and I told her as much. I've gotten a few responses from her on Tumblr. She doesn't really have any new information to share right now. Karen hasn't gotten back to her yet. The only thing of note she had to share was that the local wildlife seems to be behaving oddly, but it isn't related to the leads we have right now.


oh yeah good point.

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