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[VIDEOGAME] Slender: The Arrival
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Ztakk
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Lithp wrote:
I don't know why people keep bringing up the proxy's hair. Hair isn't the best identification tool.

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Having it be Kate relies on her randomly becoming a murderous psycho for literally no reason at all. And if you say, "it's because she's proxified," then that contradicts the claim that Charles is too insignificant. Anyone can be the proxy if it's just something that Slenderman kind of does to you at random.

I don't say this in defense of the Charles Theory, either. That still leaves its own holes & conflicting evidence. Honestly, I'm kind of disillusioned with the plot. I think I somehow know less now than I did at the beginning of the game.


I've alluded to that level a couple of times. It works, but it's a real pain in
the ass to get into. I'm not sure, but I think Slenderman has to be there, which you obviously can't really control.


I tried it 6 or 7 times both with and without Slenderman there and couldn't get it to work so I'm not really sure either.

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AuroraKatz
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Okay, now I'm 96% sure the proxy IS Kate, for the following reason:

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At the final room where you find CR's burned body, you see all the writings and stuff, one of them is from Kate and it says:

This is something I have to do
Whispers from my only real friend

Who is (I can't read this one, I think it says "Yomi" or "You") know
-line of small text which I can't read-
For me to be free

Here is the video: http://youtu.be/6_jBcxxmb-Q?t=23m34s


PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:50 pm
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censura_umbra
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Ztakk wrote:
Apparently there's a secret level in the game. Here's a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Aoj4GQcco

(no this is not a video of mine. I'm going to test this when I get home.)


Holy shit...that was intense! Creepier than the entire real game. I feel like the story has substance now!

I have no doubt that the child is the proxy now.

Damn. it is like the game was made to share Lauren's story, just like Jay's youtube, and then the boy went all TTA and hacked it.

That was amazing.

Plus it rewards fanatics like us, who would keep going back to that poster to look for things.

The video said you have to go to the house, turn on the radio, grap the flashlight, then look at the poster. and you have to do it 3 times before it works.

I don't know, he also took a shortcut to the house, so it became dark faster and the credits were still rolling, maybe that has something to do with it.

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Ztakk
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Not sure, I've seen a couple videos on it. For example, one says to do the radio, then flashlight, then the poster 3 times, while another says you have to walk past the swing set, and then a third one says you have to walk by the swingset and then play the piano.

Doesn't seem like anyone knows a set way to get in, or if there even is one.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:29 am
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AuroraKatz
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That secret level is creepy as hell... but I don't see it connecting to the Proxy, so I still believe it's Kate, proven by the wall writings in the final room.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:05 am
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Shaoken
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AuroraKatz wrote:
That secret level is creepy as hell... but I don't see it connecting to the Proxy, so I still believe it's Kate, proven by the wall writings in the final room.


But the wall writings at the end aren't written by Kate...maybe. She wasn't the only one writing crazy things down in the game.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:27 am
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censura_umbra
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Also. The text at the bottom and distortion are very proxy-like. And the child missing poster initiates it. You see a missing child poster and then the text says "find me" that screams to me that Charles M is the one effing with the game/video. Meaning either Charles M is the proxy or CM is some yet unseen TTA like character.

Quick tangent:
A newspaper clipping said that the park sold some land to the mine, where they started digging and stuff. Maybe this angered slender man and woke him up. Then CM goes missing, presumably slendy-napped or maybe he proxy walked to the woods like Tim did as a child.

Any way. I think that CM grew up to be a slightly disfunctional member of society. Like Tim did. I think he started working at the Mine, and when it closed down he had nothing left.



This note reads like a suicide note. But maybe CM gave himself into the slender man? The note even breaks the 4th wall. It says enjoy your game. Which would be insignificant. Except that in the secret level CM hacks your game. Changing level selections and stuff.

Basically I think CM was like Tim as a child and grew up to become a TTA/ Masky like character but on Slendy's side

Edit:

Just found this. And it creeped me out a bit.

This death scene pops up if you manage to escape from SM by glitching through a wall or something...



PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:40 am
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AuroraKatz
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censura_umbra wrote:
Also. The text at the bottom and distortion are very proxy-like. And the child missing poster initiates it. You see a missing child poster and then the text says "find me" that screams to me that Charles M is the one effing with the game/video. Meaning either Charles M is the proxy or CM is some yet unseen TTA like character.

Quick tangent:
A newspaper clipping said that the park sold some land to the mine, where they started digging and stuff. Maybe this angered slender man and woke him up. Then CM goes missing, presumably slendy-napped or maybe he proxy walked to the woods like Tim did as a child.

Any way. I think that CM grew up to be a slightly disfunctional member of society. Like Tim did. I think he started working at the Mine, and when it closed down he had nothing left.



This note reads like a suicide note. But maybe CM gave himself into the slender man? The note even breaks the 4th wall. It says enjoy your game. Which would be insignificant. Except that in the secret level CM hacks your game. Changing level selections and stuff.

Basically I think CM was like Tim as a child and grew up to become a TTA/ Masky like character but on Slendy's side

Edit:

Just found this. And it creeped me out a bit.

This death scene pops up if you manage to escape from SM by glitching through a wall or something...



The secret level is exactly based on that, Charles wants you to find him and says he's alone, you find him and then he tries to find you, then kills you. And when he's going after you, he is Slender Man.. or looks like him, and when he kills you, the death screen is a merge of his face on the poster and Slender Man.

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Ztakk
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AuroraKatz wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
Also. The text at the bottom and distortion are very proxy-like. And the child missing poster initiates it. You see a missing child poster and then the text says "find me" that screams to me that Charles M is the one effing with the game/video. Meaning either Charles M is the proxy or CM is some yet unseen TTA like character.

Quick tangent:
A newspaper clipping said that the park sold some land to the mine, where they started digging and stuff. Maybe this angered slender man and woke him up. Then CM goes missing, presumably slendy-napped or maybe he proxy walked to the woods like Tim did as a child.

Any way. I think that CM grew up to be a slightly disfunctional member of society. Like Tim did. I think he started working at the Mine, and when it closed down he had nothing left.



This note reads like a suicide note. But maybe CM gave himself into the slender man? The note even breaks the 4th wall. It says enjoy your game. Which would be insignificant. Except that in the secret level CM hacks your game. Changing level selections and stuff.

Basically I think CM was like Tim as a child and grew up to become a TTA/ Masky like character but on Slendy's side

Edit:

Just found this. And it creeped me out a bit.

This death scene pops up if you manage to escape from SM by glitching through a wall or something...



The secret level is exactly based on that, Charles wants you to find him and says he's alone, you find him and then he tries to find you, then kills you. And when he's going after you, he is Slender Man.. or looks like him, and when he kills you, the death screen is a merge of his face on the poster and Slender Man.


I take that more to mean that he is being controlled by Slenderman.

There's also some people saying that you can't say this level is in any way related to the story because it's hidden but I disagree. The entire story is fleshed out by the player seeking stuff out and piecing together the story themselves, and this is not really any different just hidden much more than the notes, or other stuff.

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censura_umbra
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There was also a letter from CR to Kate saying he heard things outside his window, and he heard whispering.

And since SM doesn't whisper...maybe it was CM outside his window

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Lithp
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Yes, finally got this to work instead of redirecting me to the index!

The notion that the secret level is a "hack" is interesting, but I am confident that it's completely wrong. Look at it this way: By all accounts, you have to restart the level multiple times in order to get to it. Lauren cannot restart levels, because she is not aware that she is a videogame character. IF it were truly part of the story, why would getting there be such a huge divorce from suspension of disbelief? It isn't like the letters, which you can easily see her finding as she explores the area. Unless you want to argue that it's somehow triggered by a person reviewing the tape multiple times. But why should this be canon, & the "bug in the game" line just an Easter Egg?

Also, I didn't find it creepy, I thought it was funny. Especially the part where Slenderman had the kid's face.

About the mine, I don't think it "awakened" Slenderman, but I do think it shut down because of him.* It doesn't seem as though it was open for that long, & was plagued by power failures. I also thought that Charles may have worked there, but the proxy seems rather short to be an adult male. I also considered that it might be Charles Sr. after losing his son, but you run into similar problems there.

One other reason I thought it might be Charles is because multiple entities seems to be implied from the very beginning. While one could make the argument that Slenderman is perfectly capable of making sounds, but simply chooses not to, one of CR's letters says that "monsters surrounded [him]." Admittedly, this is still an odd choice of words if there are only 2, but it makes more sense than Slenderman (1 monster) "surrounding" him.

*=In fact, Oakside Park also seems like it might be abandoned. It seems to be Slenderman's domain, with everyone who goes in there even for a few moments disappearing. This is evidenced by the driverless cars with the lights still on, of which there are more of than characters in the game.

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censura_umbra
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Well the secret level acts like a hack. When you "find" him and are then thrown back to the start screen, if you click scene selections, all of the scenes are pictures of his MISSING poster and then it says "I like it better this way"
Plus it has different images in the background.
If this doesn't scream hack, or at least tampering before the game was released (obviously I am pretending this game is real) than I don't know what does.

This game is not Lauren playing it, like most games. For example the game Halo, is Master Chief's story, through and through.

This game is OUR story in a way. This game is about us watching the found footage of a likely dead woman, and CM is interacting with US in this scene, not Lauren. Much like Marble Hornets is all just footage of a guy stumbling upon strange things and TTA comes in and messes with things and tries to interact with us.

I don't think that Lauren ACTUALLY walked up to a poster and was zapped to a weird dimension. I think that (if we pretend this whole game is on a DVD) when we are watching the DVD, and at the point Lauren reaches the poster, the disc skips and cuts back to the menu, and when we play it again there are these edited scenes spliced in. and then it cuts back to the menu which is altered, and more splicing, etc. and then after it gets past that point on the disc, the normal dvd continues.

This is a lot easier to understand if you ever played with one of those movies that came out on DVD with interactive scenes, which was tried but failed in the early 2000's.

TL;DR

The games events are a recording we are watching. Just like level 4 was a recording Lauren was watching. CM, in REAL life, altered the game/ recording before Parsec released it.

By real life I mean in our suspended disbelief version of real life.

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Lithp
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Plus it has different images in the background.


Wait, seriously? What are they?

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If this doesn't scream hack, or at least tampering before the game was released (obviously I am pretending this game is real) than I don't know what does.


Either hack or the appearance of the game being hacked is part of the joke.

Quote:
I think that (if we pretend this whole game is on a DVD) when we are watching the DVD, and at the point Lauren reaches the poster, the disc skips and cuts back to the menu,


But if this was meant to be implied, why doesn't this happen whenever you find the poster? It would still be quite well hidden.

Quote:
CM, in REAL life, altered the game/ recording before Parsec released it.


Wait, are we playing a game, or watching a recording? I can accept the possibility that this takes place in "the real world," but it can't be both.

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censura_umbra
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Lithp wrote:
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Plus it has different images in the background.


Wait, seriously? What are they?


It looked like the same distortion you saw when you first saw the poster and were warped back to the menu

Lithp wrote:
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If this doesn't scream hack, or at least tampering before the game was released (obviously I am pretending this game is real) than I don't know what does.


Either hack or the appearance of the game being hacked is part of the joke.


What joke? It didn't seem very funny to me

Lithp wrote:
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I think that (if we pretend this whole game is on a DVD) when we are watching the DVD, and at the point Lauren reaches the poster, the disc skips and cuts back to the menu,


But if this was meant to be implied, why doesn't this happen whenever you find the poster? It would still be quite well hidden.


It is there for people who pay more attention than others...like unfictioners. It is like those interactable DVDs. If you clicked OK on the remote at the right time during the right scene in the movie, an alternative scene would play.

Lithp wrote:
Quote:
CM, in REAL life, altered the game/ recording before Parsec released it.


Wait, are we playing a game, or watching a recording? I can accept the possibility that this takes place in "the real world," but it can't be both.


That is a good question. I would say that the best answer is that it is a DVD, with a Main menu. To us as players the events seem like they are happening in the present, but really no matter WHAT we do in the game, we are supposed to assume that that is what Lauren ACTUALLY did while she was recording. So each time you play the game it is like you are in a slightly different reality in which Lauren did slightly different things. So the one time that you found that MISSING poster, you have to assume that Lauren actually found it too. Even though the first time you played she didn't, you have to pretend that the other playthrough's didn't actually happen (at least for immersion sake)


Again Tl;DR

It is the same as when Lauren saw the video of Kate. It was just a video. We were just viewing it in video game form.

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Lithp
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There are a lot of things that I think were funny about this level:

1. That ridiculous-looking kid popping up instead of Slenderman when you lose.
2. Playing in a half-finished level. You could liken this to a game that leaves a bug or test item in for players to find.
3. Teleporting through doors, a blatant reference to Marble Hornets.
4. Slenderman taking control of your game, thus breaking the fourth wall.
5. You are literally playing hide-&-seek. With Slenderman.
6. Lack of scare chords. This doesn't make it "funny," per se, but it made for me a lot more relaxing of an atmosphere.

Kind of like the park rules that say you're not supposed to wear suits. Dry humor. I really didn't see the level as scary, particularly not when compared to the usual game.

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