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[VIDEO] Decline
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Ztakk
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pravado wrote:
SaferSaturnX wrote:
I haven't seen anyone mention this, but if someone has, then my bad. The title for the video, Decline, seems to me to be a reference to the series as a whole. The story is on it's decline, and there's not going to be much more of it.

I doubt it's supposed to be a meta-reference though. More like TTA knows that everything is coming to an end soon.

EDIT: Actually, I also just though that it could mean Alex's decline as well.


why would they end the series at this point? there is still so much left unanswered. ending it here would be shooting themselves in the foot, nothing really major plot wise has happened in season 3 yet


I think he's meaning the series is coming to a close by S3 being the last season.

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pravado
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twistedpuppet wrote:
Pravado, you can't actually prove that, story-wise, the operator wasn't really there in that video. Yes, out of game, we all know that the video had to be edited to include all that. As it relates to the story, there's been nothing given to us by the creators that suggests that the operator wasn't in the video "for real."


Half his body appears right where his mom is standing. That's your proof. He isn't a ghost that can pass through people.

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CraicIsMighty
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Well yeah Oppy was obviously edited in that particular video, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't watching over Alex as a child, he just wasn't caught on camera. I don't see why TTA/whoever would have gone to the lengths of procuring footage of Alex as a child if it wasn't meant to tell us something. Since it's pretty much been confirmed (as much as anything gets confirmed in MH) that Tim was stalked as a child, I think that Alex being stalked as a child is a lot more plausible now. Although until we get more evidence of this I'm more inclined to believe Oppy followed Tim, but it's still possible.

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twistedpuppet
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pravado wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Pravado, you can't actually prove that, story-wise, the operator wasn't really there in that video. Yes, out of game, we all know that the video had to be edited to include all that. As it relates to the story, there's been nothing given to us by the creators that suggests that the operator wasn't in the video "for real."


Half his body appears right where his mom is standing. That's your proof. He isn't a ghost that can pass through people.


The video cuts out as the kid blows out the candles and then you see an image that looks like the operator. :/ Video distortion.

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Toadbert
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The time stamp freaking out adds to that too. My take on it would be the Operator caused the distortion by being there but no one saw him, so when whoever posted this they added him in.

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Hazman
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I think TO was there, just not caught on camera. Presuming TTA was the one who hacked Jay's account and uploaded it he just edited it in to show he was there but no one saw him. Makes me think tho that Hoody/TTA is someone we haven't seen before but knows Alex from childhood, they had a falling out or moved away or whatever and that's why Alex isn't surprised when he sees Hoody unmasked. Maybe he was at Alex's birthday and saw the operator but no one else believed him.

As for the FF8 scenario that would just be dumb and not work if they all knew each other before and then have all been affected by the operator and forgot each other. But that would mean they would of all been in the hospital and some how all escaped when it burnt down.

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When a place burns down, not everyone inside always dies, or even anyone at all. It is perfectly possible that the place caught fire, and they were able to get everyone out.

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CraicIsMighty
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Yeah it would be kind of dumb if everyone involved with Marble Hornets was stalked as a child but I could believe that Tim and possibly Alex and Jessica were, that's only three people. And Jessica wasn't even involved in MH.

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Lithp
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Zarggg wrote:
Nathanial wrote:
They're all orphans that grew up together. The operator was their care taker. From space.

That's pretty much the plot of EverymanHYBRID :p


It's funny because it's true. Except maybe the space part.

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Ristar
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Now we have to wait till Tim/Jay team decides to search what happened on the tunnel, then we will find Hoody's corpse (Because why would they kill the villain now), and TTA will send us a new replacement, maybe Skully or the Phoenix Conection from CS.

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The biggest problem with the whole "everyone was stalked as a child" is it takes all the fear out of it. The scary thing about this is that ANYONE could stumble upon info about TO and suddenly find themselves being stalked.
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Nathanial
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Lithp wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
Nathanial wrote:
They're all orphans that grew up together. The operator was their care taker. From space.

That's pretty much the plot of EverymanHYBRID :p


It's funny because it's true. Except maybe the space part.


Oh wow, I was just throwing out some slightly random, part stupid, part FF8 reference thought. Jeeeeeez.... Rolling Eyes

Also, I don't think Hoody is dead. But after the latest TTA video, I honestly don't know what to think about Hoody anymore (used to think it was damn clear they were TTA, now I'm shook up about it)

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Lithp
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ReeseSparrow wrote:
The biggest problem with the whole "everyone was stalked as a child" is it takes all the fear out of it. The scary thing about this is that ANYONE could stumble upon info about TO and suddenly find themselves being stalked.


See, I don't see that. You seem to have to be in their part of the world to get stalked by it, & maybe not even then.

Contrast with EverymanHYBRID. There seems to be a special purpose to stalking the protagonists, but they also maintain the illusion that you could be next by having HABIT talk to the audience, staging videos were fans are "attacked," etc.

Now, I don't know the exact circumstances of FF8, but having everyone be involved in a murky event along time ago isn't always a bad thing.

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Sanjha
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Okay, after reading a lot of posts in this topic and thinking about it some myself, I think I might support the following theories:

The poem:

"Nothing" really seems to me like The Operator. And I don't say that at random, I think he's called "nothing" in this case because everyone forgets about him once he gets to their minds.
Tim himself made the affirmative a few videos back that he doesn't even remember who he was hallucinating about when he was younger.
Perhaps, if studied more carefully, this could be a multiple ways message. For Alex who has lost his mind, since it IS his birthday, for Tim, who's clearly afraid although he has nothing on his mind (Which could explain the being a liar or he being gone remark. As if "Am I lying about not knowing? Or is he really gone from my memories?"), for Jay, who doesn't really have the actual goal of finding the truth, but rather going after Jessica and whatnot being, this way, careless and even for TTA himself, who has everything under control, and is only trying to affirm that.

The eye:

The eye for me is clearly Jay's, and in fact, the scene could be a message for Jay, along the lines of "You watched it, but you didn't really see what I wanted you to.", maybe hinting, yet again, Jay keeps missing the point.


Have you made me a liar:

As I stated before, it could be a reference to Tim's lack of memory about the Operator, but I don't discard the possibility other people commented here about it being a remark along the lines of: "Was I successful to get rid of Alex, or The Operator still has business with him?", probably not talking to himself, but hinting both him, Tim and Jay might need to find that out.

Also, as most of the scenes in this post, it could probably have multiple meanings, including both my conclusion, or other more.

The silhouettes in this video:

It's very, very likely that all the face near the beginning, the fast white shadow and the man in the end were ALL Seth. His face structure matches quite well in it. Now, if this is a message that Seth is involved, or just really ToTheArk literally saying "I'm not afraid of staring you right in the face right now.", I'm not sure. But I do support this last assumption, seem Alex shouted about Hoody grinning at him on the last entry, and all these silhouettes are obviously grinning at the camera.

Can you see any truth at all:

While thinking about it, it could be a lot of things, but it all points it could be just irony to the whole video, implying there are many hidden truths behind all the words he says, implying nothing is what seems to be.

On the other hand, you can also assume "Can you actually see any truth at all hiding this way, Jay/Tim?", most likely because they don't remember anything, and are running from the truth instead of seeking it.


Anyways, that's it for now. Give me your feedback if possible.

EDIT: Oh, as an extra remark, I gotta say I find it very unlikely for TTA to be more than one person. Even if it MAY be, the videos do make a big quantity of references about loneliness ever since Tim stopped being Masky frequently, and even made a nostalgic comment when Tim actually woke up with Jay in Rosswood in that small cabin as if "I missed your support". Even if TTA does wear a lot of different personas in his videos, it does seem to me it's only one person doing all the dirty work. And about him not having technology around, I wonder. There's a huge quantity of abandoned buildings in Rosswood, there could be at least one with energy to lighten up some technology. Plus, Hoody DOES have a camera, isn't it?

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Coolbro Swaggins
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The still of Alex from way back from S14 with the blood on his head seems to answer a question: TTA has been stalking and trying to kill Alex from the very beginning. It explains why he has blood on his head and how he knew who Hoody was given Slendy himself has yet to cause physical trauma.

Also, the appearance of the weird black-eyes and that photo of the head with the Xs for eyes from a previous TTA entry are starting to make me think they're alluding back to Skully from the small bit in 26.

This is all starting to make me want more S1 era tapes again to explain what went down and I'm guessing we might eventually headed for that. I'm guessing Alex might have them: We still never found out exactly who had #22 or what #22 even meant and he had #51, so I'm guessing he might have a couple more.

Or maybe Hoody has some tapes. It's obvious at this point he's been around from the very beginning and has a lot recorded, so maybe he has what went down in the endgame of the whole "Alex breaks down and started hitting people with pipes" thing. A possible explanation could be that Alex was trying to get rid of the masked people stalking him (he suspects it was the cast) and he was and always has been used by Slendy as a tool to get rid of them. Or something to that effect.

I'd also like to add something about Hoody/Seth:

I think Seth is Hoody; The theme of Hoody seems to be black and white as it started to be central to the videos after he first made his presence known. Since, we see a Seth-like image in black and white and there's the "Always watching" figure in black white: These are collectively Seth, who is Hoody.

In 22, we also see the "Sad panda" face that became synonymous with Hoody's mask after something happened to Seth. It might not've initially been on 22's tape, but it's evident Hoody's the one who put the tape in the red tower to begin with, so he might've found a way to tamper with it.

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