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Lithp
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How does it being how the series started make it not repetitive? Of course a plot device is a lot less novel & interesting the 10th time it's used as opposed to the 1st. I don't know why we're even having this argument. Especially since only like 2 people complained about it in this entire thread. Let it die, already.

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TheManPF
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
What I find interesting is that he doesn't act like it was Hoody that he saw.


Yeah, I'd imagine that since he was able to tell that whoever it was he saw was staring at him, they were probably unmasked and unknown to him. I think it'd be kinda cool if the tapes he found wound up having nothing to do with Marble Hornets, but instead were videos taken by some other group that went through the same horrors before Alex did, and then at some point Jay realizes that one of the people he sees in the tapes was the person he saw staring at him at the tower, bonus points for creepiness coming if it's someone he sees die on camera.


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Geneaux486
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How does it being how the series started make it not repetitive? Of course a plot device is a lot less novel & interesting the 10th time it's used as opposed to the 1st.


Yeah, it's repetitive, but there aren't many other ways for us viewers to see what we supposedly need to see without it being presented on tapes. Can't say it really bothers me so long as what's on the tapes isn't repetetive.

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Xman
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Lithp wrote:
How does it being how the series started make it not repetitive? Of course a plot device is a lot less novel & interesting the 10th time it's used as opposed to the 1st. I don't know why we're even having this argument. Especially since only like 2 people complained about it in this entire thread. Let it die, already.

It's repetitive like breathing is repetitive. It's something that's always going to happen in this series, and shouldn't be regarded as "oh great, here comes more tapes again, wow how original," like it's something that should never be repeated.

And I was talking more on a general basis, not just the people in this thread. I see this complaint come up a lot when Jay finds more tapes.

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Lithp
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Breathing is a necessity, most plot devices are not. Also, you used the fact that the Trope repeats to justify repeating the Trope.

Anyway, this is not the thread for "general complaints." You are looking for the Rage Thread.

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aidansean
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Lithp wrote:
Jay would have had to have planned this all the way back at Season 1. You know, before he lost his memory, & definitely before he knew that he was going to be teaming up with Tim. And, as you pointed out, there is no actual point to doing this.


Oh, I don't mean this goes back to Season 1. I was thinking that Jay might have realised he finally had someone else as obsessed with the operator as he is, and that he has an opportunity to make it chase someone else. The change in Jay would have had to have happened during the time of the most recent entries, and he just used a Season 1 location he knew about to make it look like these tapes were Alex's.

Lithp wrote:
This should really be one of those things where your fact-filter kicks in a second later, & you dismiss it.


I'd like to think I backed it up with enough observation to make it plausible and nothing is contradicting it (apart from "Hmm, it doesn't feel right that Jay would do that" feelings.) I'm having a hard time accepting that Jay accidentally fell into the only hole that had tapes in them, orchestrating something seems more likely to me. It could more innocent, I suppose. Maybe Jay had some burnt tapes all along, but didn't tell Tim, so rather than come clean he pretends to find them later and let's Tim fill in the blanks.

I don't like the idea of Jay's Investigating Feet. The explanation given makes no sense to me at all, no matter who put the tapes there. (Alex would have hidden them better, Hoody would have had a more reliable method than "Lets see if this root trips Jay up.")

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Marshyy
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Someone has already mentioned the 'SEES ME AT THE TOWER' note Alex wrote in season one that Jay found. Seems like the thought is that it's the same person that Alex originally saw, and Jay saw in this entry (Operator, Hoody, someone else).

I don't like this whole 'time travel' idea and try to think of other reasons for things happening, but my first thought was that it was Alex that Jay saw in this entry, albeit from the past. Alex travelled into the future and saw Jay in this entry, and left a note saying 'SEES ME AT THE TOWER'.

Just something to ponder.

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Waulker
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I'm just going to go out there and say there is no way those tapes would be salvage-able if they had been sitting there for years.

1. someone was following them, but they got out of frame before they could be videotaped.
2. someone placed those tapes there while they were stumbling around at the tower.
3. they were followed.

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paladin181
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Waulker wrote:
I'm just going to go out there and say there is no way those tapes would be salvage-able if they had been sitting there for years.

1. someone was following them, but they got out of frame before they could be videotaped.
2. someone placed those tapes there while they were stumbling around at the tower.
3. they were followed.
We don't know that they are playable.
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they are indeed playable because the story needs them to be.
We also don't know that they were followed, as Jay could be hallucinating or cracking. The distortion could directly be related to that, as has been shown with Alex's anger and Tim's masked presence.

I'm not saying they were definitely not followed, I'm just saying that it's possible that there was no one there.

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missingnocchi
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It would be interesting if the tapes weren't playable, but the risk that they might be led Alex to recklessly attack them. Still, there's no way they would do that.

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Bernie Buddy
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aidansean wrote:
Alex would have hidden them better,


How is burying something inside a hole inside a forest not a good way to hide things?

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kclbm4
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This is what I predict happens after the entry:

1. Jay gets the tapes, and "they can't play"
2. He posts this on Twitter.
3. We wait 2-3 weeks.
4. He somehow gets part of the tape playing.
5. Even after this, we wait a week or so before we get the entry.

Or, instead of posting about the tape playing, his password gets "found out" by someone and his account gets hijacked again.

This seems to be a repetitive theme this season. I'm not trying to be callous, I'm just saying Very Happy .

Then again, they could break the cycle and put up a completely unexpected entry like they did with #67.5.

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Lithp
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I thought they should be broken as well, but surely the cases afford them some protection?

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How is burying something inside a hole inside a forest not a good way to hide things?


Exactly, this is perfectly consistent with someone who is paranoid & in a rush trying to destroy evidence. The "it was Jay" idea just makes no sense at all. The last time Jay was at College Town without Tim in tow was way back in Season 1. So unless we're going to do say that Jay pulled them out of his sleeve...& why isn't "it doesn't feel right that Jay would do this" enough to debunk this? There is no motive, & Jay's never been that cunning a deceiver before ("documentary about hotels!").

Shouldn't this theory have a shred of evidence to stand on if we're going to talk about it like it's a serious consideration?

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evilcarrot
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rand__althor wrote:
After rewatching the Entry, two things struck me.

First, we see them revisit locations, including the following:



Didn't we find that that had been torn down and replaced with something else? It's nice to see that that's still around.

Second, Jay's text narration during the driving sequence relays what he and Tim have been up to. Wouldn't this be broadcasting their whereabouts to Alex? Why would Jay do that?

I kind of hate myself for doing this, but does anyone else see something directly above the left corner of the fountain? Probably nothing, but I keep coming back to this frame and it's screwing with me. I'm at work so I can't watch/listen right now, but I don't recall there being any distortion during this scene, which adds to the "probably nothing" likelihood. But still.

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Bernie Buddy
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I seriously thought that was him.

But then I looked at the 720p version, and it looks like his "head" is just dead leaves, and his "body" is just a shadow casted onto a tree, unfortunately.



That's disappointing. Sad

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