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Parietal Lobectomy

*looks up*

Not sure if I'm included in the "speculation" you mention, but I wasn't meaning to imply Jay left the tapes; I think (however implausible it might be IRL) they've been there since before Entry #21.

I was thinking more about how Jay will change as the series moves forward- is his sanity slipping, as Alex's was? And is this due in part to being Operated?

(still a daft theory, most likely, but not quite of the "Jay hid the tapes himself and forgot for reasons" variety Razz

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**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:00 pm

TheManPF · Decorated Joined: 29 Oct 2012 Posts: 191

Why would Jay become overly paranoid at this point and not before, considering all the shit he went through during all these years? And why would he become more paranoid now when technically nothing relevant happened to him lately?

**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:23 pm

BranRainey · Unfettered Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 371

**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:39 pm

UseR1011100 · Veteran Joined: 26 Mar 2012 Posts: 81

I assumed that the tapes had been burned in the hole. Alex just tossed them in, doused them with lighter fluid, dropped in a lit match, and walked away. That would explain why not all of the tapes had been burnt. If he had burned them before hand I think he would have noticed that they had not all been destroyed. I don't think he felt the need to be so thorough as to bury them, because he figured the fire would take care of them.

**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:35 pm

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pravado · Unfictologist Joined: 22 Apr 2011 Posts: 1833

Jay did not put those tapes there. It would be absolutely detrimental to the plot to reveal that Jay burned the tapes and left them there, then stupidly led Tim right to them. Even if you're assuming Jay planted them and then forgot, it would still be incredibly stupid for them to take the series in that direction. It would undo all of the friendship they built up between Jay and Tim.

They could not have spelled it out more. The tapes were melted, meaning they were set on fire. We know Alex kept incriminating tapes from Jay, and we know Alex wanted to burn the tapes. They even went so far as to purposely show a lighter in his drawer in entry 50. If there was regular footage on the tapes, they wouldnt need to be burned, as no harm would be done from finding them.

I have never face palmed so many times in one entry thread before. Comeon people.

**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:46 pm

TheManPF · Decorated Joined: 29 Oct 2012 Posts: 191

**Posted:** Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:07 pm

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**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:54 am

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Toadbert · Decorated Joined: 11 Mar 2012 Posts: 292

I don't know if this has been discussed, but does the lighter and Brian's death tape in Alex's desk imply he was continuing to burn them for a while after he gave the tapes to Jay? Why didn't he burn it after he saw Jay had just tried to steal it?

Why was the tape of Seth in the tower and not in the hole? He said "I'm burning all of these tapes," at the end of that very tape and sure, the hole in the ground is right by it. But who did he think would find it and assume there weren't more tapes? TTA? The guy watching the tower?

Did Alex give the tapes to Jay to make him look like the victim and is that why he had them all in the bag, ready to go? And when Alex is yelling that he never should've given the tapes to Jay in #52, was it because he posted them online or just because they led to the investigation?

Just spitballing ideas

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:06 am

Lithp · I Have No Life Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058

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**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:26 am

Lithp · I Have No Life Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058

Basically. What I can't fathom is why some people can't seem to acknowledge that if some big Secret Jay Scheme hasn't been exposed in all of these years, there probably isn't one.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:35 am

Hazman

I'm pretty sure, no, I'm certain Jay wouldn't leave tapes in a hole near the tower. Well not on purpose, unless they have incriminating evidence against Jay on them. Anyway. I reckon it was Alex or TTA/Hoody/TiMasky who left the tapes there. I reckon they have been there since before Entry 21, so TiMasky isn't actually out of the question, as presumably he was working with Hoody/TTA at the start. If TTA/Hoody left them there then I'm presuming Jay was meant to find them in Entry 21 or after watching the footage and hearing the distortion, Entry 22.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:21 am

Parietal Lobectomy

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:49 am

gazza · Veteran Joined: 14 Apr 2013 Posts: 101

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:15 am

Teedub

I only post on here every now and then (although I may begin regularly posting,) but I had to make a post about how much I LOVED this Entry. This is the entry that I think we all have been waiting for, as it finally transitioned to Jay and Tim migrating back to College Town. Also, on top of this, the entry even explains the distortion hole phenomenon! And on top of both of those wonderful segments, this video brings back the anxiety of someone watching them who remains concealed from the camera, and the paranoia of what the tapes contain. I feel like this is what Marble Hornets has always been about, the fear of the unknown. I feel that the tapes they have found through out the series have been necessary resources for restoring the "fear" emotion in Marble Hornets.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:19 am