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Geneaux486
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As to the rest of you, who are spending your time arguing about Entry 23, I don't know who to believe.


The two valid schools of thought are either that day turned to night for Jay rapidly, or that the premature nightfall was a continuity error due to the length of time it took to film the entry, and it means nothing in game.

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kurthnaga
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Geneaux486 wrote:
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As to the rest of you, who are spending your time arguing about Entry 23, I don't know who to believe.


The two valid schools of thought are either that day turned to night for Jay rapidly, or that the premature nightfall was a continuity error due to the length of time it took to film the entry, and it means nothing in game.


Then why is there such a big debate about it?

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Geneaux486
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kurthnaga wrote:
Then why is there such a big debate about it?


That's a good-ass question. Anyway, here's the link tp was talking about:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=996049#996049

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CraicIsMighty
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Ztakk wrote:


The whole thing of blaming Alex because he gave the tapes to Jay is like blaming a car salesman for selling me a car that I used to drive through someone's house.



What if the reason you crashed the car into someone's house was because the car salesman knowingly sold you a car that had faulty brakes? Is the salesman still blameless then, in your eyes?

Alex knew damn well that those tapes were dangerous, yet he still handed them over to poor, unsuspecting Jay. Alex never should have given him those tapes, if he really wanted to end it all he should have burned ALL the tapes like he said he was going to, and really make sure they were all toast.

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censura_umbra
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I still disagree with the notion that there was time travel in entry 23. It appears darker downstairs because the front door, where light was coming in, is now shut.


No, you're still ignoring the upstairs windows which get progressively darker until no light comes through them in a matter of minutes of Jay going from room to room. Plus, your front door explanation doesn't even make sense, because the back door, which is broad glass screen, is what lets in the majority of the natural light on the bottom floor, not the front door.

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It would make things too unrealistic


Actually, the time travel we've seen so far, where a moment passes for Jay while significantly more time passes for everything else, is theoretically possible, so it isn't unrealistic relative to what else we've seen in the show. Quite the opposite, considering.

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I'll agree that a time distortion, i.e., time not progressing for the characters in tandem with the rest of the world, was possible when Jay was trapped going through doors that didn't lead where they were supposed to. However, we've had absolutely no evidence that time travel was ever part of this series.


This is just semantics. Whether Jay was actively warping into the future or just percieving time at a faster pace due to whatever was happening to him at the moment, we don't know. What we do know is that day changed to night very quickly.

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If Alex did know about the MH channel that early, I can't help but wonder why he waited 7 months to try and kill Jay.


Probably because that wasn't his intent at first, or he genuinelly did want Jay to help him find Amy before he skee-bopped him.

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And entry 26 showed a young man and his girlfriend getting attacked by a mysterious stranger, I think that would mean something to anyone who watched it regardless of what they knew about the situation.


It wouldn't mean "Follow the return adress instead of going to the police" to anyone except Jay. Plus, he also knew that Jay was hotel-hopping, meaning he had been following Jay's exploits up until that point.


The fact that Alex was chill in that entry before Amy brought the camera out tells me he forgot all about TO. I think it is likely that Alex ran, then found MH, then contacted Jay looking for help (and to tell him to stop posting to YouTube) then he slowly went crazy.

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Ztakk
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Ztakk wrote:


The whole thing of blaming Alex because he gave the tapes to Jay is like blaming a car salesman for selling me a car that I used to drive through someone's house.



What if the reason you crashed the car into someone's house was because the car salesman knowingly sold you a car that had faulty brakes? Is the salesman still blameless then, in your eyes?

Alex knew damn well that those tapes were dangerous, yet he still handed them over to poor, unsuspecting Jay. Alex never should have given him those tapes, if he really wanted to end it all he should have burned ALL the tapes like he said he was going to, and really make sure they were all toast.


I understand what your saying there.

Personally though, I still wouldn't blame the salesman, the consumer should check the stuff out beforehand but we're getting into a grey area. Alex may have set Jay up by giving him the tapes, or he may just seen Jay as the quickest way to get rid of them. Both are valid theories until one's proven.

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Drksrpnt
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pravado wrote:
(i still think everything points to screen tear = operator teleporting into the area. every instance fits)


Drksrpnt wrote:
Surprised no one mentioned the single-frame TO distortion A-la Season 1 at 6:45 (right before the cut to rewinding the tape to find what Jay "saw")

Here's a screenshot because reasons. Link


That right there is a screen tear in this entry. I posted it and it was never mentioned again. If your theory is correct, TO was indeed in the area at that time.

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paladin181
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Ztakk wrote:
CraicIsMighty wrote:
Ztakk wrote:


The whole thing of blaming Alex because he gave the tapes to Jay is like blaming a car salesman for selling me a car that I used to drive through someone's house.



What if the reason you crashed the car into someone's house was because the car salesman knowingly sold you a car that had faulty brakes? Is the salesman still blameless then, in your eyes?

Alex knew damn well that those tapes were dangerous, yet he still handed them over to poor, unsuspecting Jay. Alex never should have given him those tapes, if he really wanted to end it all he should have burned ALL the tapes like he said he was going to, and really make sure they were all toast.


I understand what your saying there.

Personally though, I still wouldn't blame the salesman, the consumer should check the stuff out beforehand but we're getting into a grey area. Alex may have set Jay up by giving him the tapes, or he may just seen Jay as the quickest way to get rid of them. Both are valid theories until one's proven.
Jay did check the tapes though. That's kinda what caused all this to begin with. >.> Car salesman doesn't work unless he sells a car with a bomb attached that he knows will go off when it's tampered with. Which is precisely what happened.

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censura_umbra wrote:

The fact that Alex was chill in that entry before Amy brought the camera out tells me he forgot all about TO. I think it is likely that Alex ran, then found MH, then contacted Jay looking for help (and to tell him to stop posting to YouTube) then he slowly went crazy.


This. I very much agree with this.

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Ok, I just realized something, and I understand that it has absolutely no impact on the current conversation, but...

what if Jay's funding and method of getting money is actually important to the story?

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Ithilwen22
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Jay is a used car salesman

I really couldn't resist.

But actually, I don't think his funding is particularly important. I think they would have at least mentioned it, or had someone ask about IG before now.

Besides we all know he's a drug dealer. Why do you think he's so interested in Tim's pills?

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Wow.

The amount of dispute about the already-proven time-warping in Entry #23 is astounding. Laughing
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Geneaux486
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Wow.

The amount of dispute about the already-proven time-warping in Entry #23 is astounding. Laughing


It did help me realize something about entry 54 though. The lights didn't go out because of the circuit breaker or the Operator, someone just closed Tim's front door.

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Bernie Buddy
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Wow.

The amount of dispute about the already-proven time-warping in Entry #23 is astounding. Laughing


Already proven?
When/where?

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Geneaux486
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By vitrue of the fact that day changed to night in a matter of moments in the entry.

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