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Hazman
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 		Wow this ones creating more posts than I can keep up with. Anyway. Mentioning Amy again made me think that she might come back in some more recent videos. It's nice to see TO again, and the distortion is weird. I'd really like to see a frame by frame of it. Alex tackling the Operator, makes me think this is after 4 but before 13, as in 13 Alex runs from TO and in this entry he tackles it. I wonder if Alex lost several months of time from tackling it. I have a feeling not so, unlike Jay. I think he lied to Amy to not worry her.

Also, cause other people are
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I was disappointed at this entry until Alex got back to the park. But overall it was good, the phone call would of been unnatural if it was like 1 minute or whatever, so by padding that out they get a longer entry than just at the park, although a shorter season 1 entry would of been cool


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AllyJacqui
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Heres a gif i dug up on tumblr. It looks so much like a tree, but theres no tree in that spot before the distortion starts.

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pravado
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AllyJacqui wrote:
Going and watching it again, theres nothing there before the distortion starts. So, that kinda rules out the idea of a lampost, or something. Something is there once the distortion starts, whether that be a person, or 'another slendy' (Really doubt it, but hm)


Or you know... just distortion. There's only been one instance I can think of where they hid something in the background (hoody in entry 42). If they wanted to show us that there was two operators, they would have made it more clear. Doesn't make sense to me to add another operator into the mix.

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Hazman
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AllyJacqui wrote:


Heres a gif i dug up on tumblr. It looks so much like a tree, but theres no tree in that spot before the distortion starts.


A tree? Maybe a lamppost with the way the 'head' is white, suggesting light is being emitted from it.

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Geneaux486
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AllyJacqui wrote:
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Heres a gif i dug up on tumblr. It looks so much like a tree, but theres no tree in that spot before the distortion starts.


People have been saying this Operator was shorter than usual. Maybe they've got a Mario/Luigi thing going and that was the tall one we're familiar with standing in the background.

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Hazman
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pravado wrote:
AllyJacqui wrote:
Going and watching it again, theres nothing there before the distortion starts. So, that kinda rules out the idea of a lampost, or something. Something is there once the distortion starts, whether that be a person, or 'another slendy' (Really doubt it, but hm)


Or you know... just distortion. There's only been one instance I can think of where they hid something in the background (hoody in entry 42). If they wanted to show us that there was two operators, they would have made it more clear. Doesn't make sense to me to add another operator into the mix.


Unless you know, there was an army of tall faceless fellows, and The Operator is like a scout and reporting back and the rest are waiting for the all-clear signal. But that would just be dumb so far into it.

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AllyJacqui
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pravado wrote:
AllyJacqui wrote:
Going and watching it again, theres nothing there before the distortion starts. So, that kinda rules out the idea of a lampost, or something. Something is there once the distortion starts, whether that be a person, or 'another slendy' (Really doubt it, but hm)


Or you know... just distortion. There's only been one instance I can think of where they hid something in the background (hoody in entry 42). If they wanted to show us that there was two operators, they would have made it more clear. Doesn't make sense to me to add another operator into the mix.


"Hid something in the background" Isnt that all the operator was in some of the entries? Either way, I'm inclined to agree that there isnt a second operator. I'm just looking at it like this, There's no lampost, no tree, no nothing. Theres SOMETHING there, even if it is just some super weird ass distortion.

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pravado
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Hazman wrote:
Wow this ones creating more posts than I can keep up with. Anyway. Mentioning Amy again made me think that she might come back in some more recent videos. It's nice to see TO again, and the distortion is weird. I'd really like to see a frame by frame of it. Alex tackling the Operator, makes me think this is after 4 but before 13, as in 13 Alex runs from TO and in this entry he tackles it. I wonder if Alex lost several months of time from tackling it. I have a feeling not so, unlike Jay. I think he lied to Amy to not worry her.

Also, cause other people are
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I was disappointed at this entry until Alex got back to the park. But overall it was good, the phone call would of been unnatural if it was like 1 minute or whatever, so by padding that out they get a longer entry than just at the park, although a shorter season 1 entry would of been cool


Maybe I can get you on my side. Go rewatch entry 13 and try to plan out the layout of the field in your head. When Alex sees the operator behind the fence, he could easily turn around and run in the opposite direction, right? But he doesn't. He turns left and runs towards the building, and moves towards the part of the building that the operator was closer to

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pravado
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AllyJacqui wrote:
pravado wrote:
AllyJacqui wrote:
Going and watching it again, theres nothing there before the distortion starts. So, that kinda rules out the idea of a lampost, or something. Something is there once the distortion starts, whether that be a person, or 'another slendy' (Really doubt it, but hm)


Or you know... just distortion. There's only been one instance I can think of where they hid something in the background (hoody in entry 42). If they wanted to show us that there was two operators, they would have made it more clear. Doesn't make sense to me to add another operator into the mix.


"Hid something in the background" Isnt that all the operator was in some of the entries? Either way, I'm inclined to agree that theres isnt a second operator. I'm just looking at it like this, There's no lampost, no tree, no nothing. Theres SOMETHING there, even if it is just some super weird ass distortion.


The difference between the hoody sitting under the tree and operator sightings, is that the operator sightings are obvious. That's what I meant. There's never an instance that you have to question if it's the operator or not, because when we see him it's clearly him.

Sure, there's a white light near the right of his shoulder. Doesn't really mean it has to be anything other than lens flare or something though.

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Miyulace
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 		Hey everybody. I lurk and lurk and never say anything, but maybe I'll finally start.

Just as a comment, I think that the jist of the fact that this tape was burned is the fact that Alex is lying to Amy one way or another. Somebody mentioned that Alex protecting Amy might be unlikely because she was so far away at the time, although maybe Alex was afraid whatever he got into with the Operator could have consequences for her regardless. Either way, he's obviously hiding his actions, and if his actions eventually led to the loss of Amy in one way or another, he wouldn't want that to be exposed for his own reputation of coming off looking "innocent" to Jay.

It seems the only possibilities as far as Alex's goals in coming to the park would be that he had seen him on his property prior, or maybe just around the areas the film had been shot in already -- but the park itself? I always wondered exactly what Alex had come there for, or how the Operator led him there in the original park entry? Was there a Marble Hornets scene filmed there? Anyway, he seems to have been stalked by the operator recently before this entry, or at least is making it look that way, as when someone is incessantly following you, "what do you want?!" is a reasonable thing to ask. Not so much if he had been seeking the operator out himself, however, which kind of seems like he'd been doing in this entry. I'm curious as to what he thought would be accomplished by coming back to the park assuming he had somehow run into the Operator there before, and if he merely didn't want Amy to worry, or if he had a feeling it wasn't going to end well.

I'm definitely curious as to what this specific moment meant for Alex, whether it changed him in whatever way at the time what with the coughing and teleportation and such.

My comments are probably nothing new whatsoever, but I thought I'd put my two cents in.

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pravado
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abcetc wrote:
Why is it that Jay seems totally oblivious to the Operator's role in these events? He never refers to him in his commentaries (with the exception of some of the first entries), and the characters almost never mention him. I mean really, isn't the next logical step to cut to the chase and ask "Who the hell is this creepy guy who follows Alex around, and what do I do about him?"


This is one of my bigger complaints. The two times they directly mention him (42 and... don't remember which but somewhere in the 60's, tim says "alex and that thing that follows him around) are some of the best dialogue moments in the series imo.

It's like... we know Jay acknowledges the operator obviously, but the lack of mentioning it is really weird.

They can be doing so much more with the dialogue in the series imo. For example, in the last entry, jay could have mentioned that he passed over the hole once before and saw distortion on the tape hwen he went over it, and that's why he goes to investigate it. Not because he tripped over it. Lots of entries have dialogue that addresses the concern of alex or hoody being nearby, but never the operator. Lots of entries also are very quiet when they could have meaningful dialogue that could build things up.

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CraicIsMighty
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pravado wrote:
Exetera wrote:
pravado wrote:
Multiple people using the account implies that multiple people know how to edit video that well (which is a little unrealistic).
We already know that Jay and Alex are film majors, and should thus be able to edit. Since it seems like the MH cast mostly met through class, it's likely that some of the other original cast members (Bryan, Seth, Sarah) were also film majors, though Tim has confirmed that he isn't one. And, finally, it's worth noting that there are two very distinctive editing styles in use on TTA's channel, so we knew (and Jay has pointed out) that there was likely more than one TTA editor anyways.


Well we already know Jay is not part of totheark. Alex is the only other film major, and obviously he's not totheark.

Brian is not a film major. He's just an actor. Sarah is also just an actor. If you can find contradictory evidence to this I'll correct myself, but afaik they have never said they were film majors.

Seth is the only one with editing experience, being the cameraman and editor (and why i believe he is solely totheark/hoody)

As far as two different editing styles... I still never understood that. Everything from season 2 up looks like the brainwork of one person. I personally think the "group" concept of totheark was a scrapped idea.


Where does it ever say that Seth was the editor?

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Exetera
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pravado wrote:
Well we already know Jay is not part of totheark.
I've argued before that fugue-state Jay is likely part of totheark, given TTA's access to the MH tapes and his seemingly effortless hijackings of Jay's accounts.

pravado wrote:
When Alex sees the operator behind the fence, he could easily turn around and run in the opposite direction, right? But he doesn't. He turns left and runs towards the building, and moves towards the part of the building that the operator was closer to

It's possible that Alex is trying to seek shelter, or get out of the Operator's sight. It doesn't seem like there's any cover to run to aside from the building.

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Miyulace
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 		As far as the "double slendy", I watched the gif over and over and it looks to me like it slightly moves, like a lens flare.

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RawrItsLiv
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pravado wrote:
abcetc wrote:
Why is it that Jay seems totally oblivious to the Operator's role in these events? He never refers to him in his commentaries (with the exception of some of the first entries), and the characters almost never mention him. I mean really, isn't the next logical step to cut to the chase and ask "Who the hell is this creepy guy who follows Alex around, and what do I do about him?"


This is one of my bigger complaints. The two times they directly mention him (42 and... don't remember which but somewhere in the 60's, tim says "alex and that thing that follows him around) are some of the best dialogue moments in the series imo.

It's like... we know Jay acknowledges the operator obviously, but the lack of mentioning it is really weird.

They can be doing so much more with the dialogue in the series imo. For example, in the last entry, jay could have mentioned that he passed over the hole once before and saw distortion on the tape hwen he went over it, and that's why he goes to investigate it. Not because he tripped over it. Lots of entries have dialogue that addresses the concern of alex or hoody being nearby, but never the operator. Lots of entries also are very quiet when they could have meaningful dialogue that could build things up.


Maybe the thought process is that the less they think of TO the better? They don't understand him and they have realized it's futile to try and harm him. Jay and Tim are trying to focus on the things they can fight.

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