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mokie
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 		White blob's position seems to change relative to the Operator and the two trees just to the right. Might just be a funky perspective thing since the camera's moving forward and at an angle, but it gives the appearance that the blob is moving. It also appears to move slightly in front of the trees, but that could just be a weird light halo.

Probably nothing, but fun to run back and forth in a gif editor.

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pravado
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
pravado wrote:
Exetera wrote:
pravado wrote:
Multiple people using the account implies that multiple people know how to edit video that well (which is a little unrealistic).
We already know that Jay and Alex are film majors, and should thus be able to edit. Since it seems like the MH cast mostly met through class, it's likely that some of the other original cast members (Bryan, Seth, Sarah) were also film majors, though Tim has confirmed that he isn't one. And, finally, it's worth noting that there are two very distinctive editing styles in use on TTA's channel, so we knew (and Jay has pointed out) that there was likely more than one TTA editor anyways.


Well we already know Jay is not part of totheark. Alex is the only other film major, and obviously he's not totheark.

Brian is not a film major. He's just an actor. Sarah is also just an actor. If you can find contradictory evidence to this I'll correct myself, but afaik they have never said they were film majors.

Seth is the only one with editing experience, being the cameraman and editor (and why i believe he is solely totheark/hoody)

As far as two different editing styles... I still never understood that. Everything from season 2 up looks like the brainwork of one person. I personally think the "group" concept of totheark was a scrapped idea.


Where does it ever say that Seth was the editor?


Entry 54. He asks if Alex has the tapes in his car and then goes to meet up with him to get the tapes. Only the editor would need the footage after it's already filmed.

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TheSupremeFace
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 		Even though we've made a bunch of theories, I don't think Jay really understands much about TO other than it's very dangerous.

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Exetera
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Miyulace wrote:
As far as the "double slendy", I watched the gif over and over and it looks to me like it slightly moves, like a lens flare.
Note that moving around could also be a sign that it was edited into the video later; speaking as someone who's edited video, it's quite irritating to match post-processed elements up with camera movements. (Pro tip: use a tripod if you possibly can.) And, of course, the Slendy actor could have been moving. It's possible that it's some kind of lens flare, but it doesn't look like any that I've ever seen.

pravado wrote:
Entry 54. He asks if Alex has the tapes in his car and then goes to meet up with him to get the tapes. Only the editor would need the footage after it's already filmed.
Seth was the cameraman. It makes sense for him to have the camera and the tapes, even if he wasn't going to edit them himself.

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pravado
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TheSupremeFace wrote:
Even though we've made a bunch of theories, I don't think Jay really understands much about TO other than it's very dangerous.


That claim also implies we don't either, as we know as much as Jay does. If anything, Jay knows more and is holding something back.

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pravado
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Exetera wrote:
Miyulace wrote:
As far as the "double slendy", I watched the gif over and over and it looks to me like it slightly moves, like a lens flare.

Note that moving around could also be a sign that it was added in during post; speaking as someone who's edited video, it's quite irritating to match post-processed elements up with camera movements. And, of course, the Slendy actor could have been moving. It's possible that it's some kind of lens flare, but it doesn't look like any that I've ever seen.

pravado wrote:
Entry 54. He asks if Alex has the tapes in his car and then goes to meet up with him to get the tapes. Only the editor would need the footage after it's already filmed.
Seth was the cameraman. It makes sense for him to have the camera and the tapes, even if he wasn't going to edit them himself.


No it doesn't. Why would a cameraman need the tapes? To hold onto for what reason? The only other editor would be Alex or Jay, in which case Seth would have just left the tapes with him, or let Jay go get the tapes himself.

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Miyulace
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Exetera wrote:
Miyulace wrote:
As far as the "double slendy", I watched the gif over and over and it looks to me like it slightly moves, like a lens flare.

Note that moving around could also be a sign that it was added in during post; speaking as someone who's edited video, it's quite irritating to match post-processed elements up with camera movements. And, of course, the Slendy actor could have been moving. It's possible that it's some kind of lens flare, but it doesn't look like any that I've ever seen.


Indeed. It just comes off to me as looking like it moves with the camera in perspective to the light, and may be somewhat irrelevant, but I do admit that it could be a clever way to trick us into thinking there are two Slendys there to make us all go crazy -- or possibly they meant it to be two. I just have a gut feeling it's not very important considering we're usually led to believe there is only one Slendy (or rather, have no reason to believe there is more than one. It seems silly to add in the idea of multiple Slendys this late in the game.)

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Exetera
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pravado wrote:
No it doesn't. Why would a cameraman need the tapes? To hold onto for what reason? The only other editor would be Alex or Jay, in which case Seth would have just left the tapes with him, or let Jay go get the tapes himself.
It makes sense for the cameraman to bring the camera and the unused tapes. Since he's managing the camera and the unused tapes, he's almost certainly also managing the used tapes. Since he's managing all the tapes, there's no reason for him not to hang onto them, as it's unlikely Marble Hornets is going to be edited any time soon. And, of course, it's not uncommon to record over used tapes; considering the prodigious amount of filming on MH (remember, Alex wanted a camera running at all times), their student-film budget, and the poor quality of some of their tapes, it's quite likely that this in fact occurred, in which case the cameraman would want to hold onto used tapes in order to record over them.

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Hazman
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pravado wrote:


Maybe I can get you on my side. Go rewatch entry 13 and try to plan out the layout of the field in your head. When Alex sees the operator behind the fence, he could easily turn around and run in the opposite direction, right? But he doesn't. He turns left and runs towards the building, and moves towards the part of the building that the operator was closer to


Well yes he does, but, the thing that is ambiguous about it is right at the end before the camera cuts out it turns away from the operator, so either Alex lowers the camera as he turns it off or he runs away from it. He also keeps looking at the wall of building. Anyway, I wasn't speculating about season 1, I was trying to figure out where this entry fits in. With entry 4 he runs after the operator, this entry he tackles it, in entry 13 he either approaches it or runs, if he is approaching it, he may think he can reason with it. Unless, he tries reasoning with it first in 13 and 70 is after 13 and possibly 3 it would make sense being after 3 as he is recording himself in the car. Unless Alex is just recording in case he sees it on the road again like in entry 2. There are a few ways this could go looking at it, but it's definitely after 4, just where to place it with entries 13 and 3.

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pravado
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Exetera wrote:
pravado wrote:
No it doesn't. Why would a cameraman need the tapes? To hold onto for what reason? The only other editor would be Alex or Jay, in which case Seth would have just left the tapes with him, or let Jay go get the tapes himself.
It makes sense for the cameraman to bring the camera and the unused tapes. Since he's managing the camera and the unused tapes, he's almost certainly also managing the used tapes. Since he's managing all the tapes, there's no reason for him not to hang onto them, as it's unlikely Marble Hornets is going to be edited any time soon. And, of course, it's not uncommon to record over used tapes; considering the prodigious amount of filming on MH (remember, Alex wanted a camera running at all times) and the poor quality of some of their tapes, it's quite likely that this in fact occurred, in which case the cameraman would want to hold onto used tapes in order to record over them.


Tim comments that alex has way too many tapes for what they're filming (you spend all your money on tapes and can't afford to pay your actors, blah blah). If they were rerecording over them Alex wouldn't have an absurd amount, at least not enough at one time for tim to make that claim. Plus you don't know when entry 54 took place.

I don't want to sit here and argue assumptions though. To each his own.

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Hazman
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Exetera wrote:
pravado wrote:
No it doesn't. Why would a cameraman need the tapes? To hold onto for what reason? The only other editor would be Alex or Jay, in which case Seth would have just left the tapes with him, or let Jay go get the tapes himself.
It makes sense for the cameraman to bring the camera and the unused tapes. Since he's managing the camera and the unused tapes, he's almost certainly also managing the used tapes. Since he's managing all the tapes, there's no reason for him not to hang onto them, as it's unlikely Marble Hornets is going to be edited any time soon. And, of course, it's not uncommon to record over used tapes; considering the prodigious amount of filming on MH (remember, Alex wanted a camera running at all times), their student-film budget, and the poor quality of some of their tapes, it's quite likely that this in fact occurred, in which case the cameraman would want to hold onto used tapes in order to record over them.


Well due to fact that Alex records himself, I doubt he'd want to accidentally record over one of them so I doubt they would be recording over old MH tapes, especially since some of them have TO sightings on them and Alex would want to document everything he does to remember it or something.

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Camero
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 		I, like the rest of us, have been trying to puzzle out why Alex hid his relationship to Amy. I don't have a theory yet, but I do have an avenue for investigation that might bear fruit.

Recall how season 1 ends / season 2 begins. Jay gets a tape in the mail from Alex, depicting him living with Amy, and then TO attacks. The tape ends with an edited in HELP! message. This gets Jay to start working with Alex.

Now, would knowledge of a pre-existing relationship have somehow changed Jay's response to Alex's summons? I can't see how it would, but then again Alex may have an especially Machiavellian scheme where this makes sense.

I know some have asked, "Did Alex hide the relationship with Amy because she is/later would become TTA?" I don't want to weigh in on Amy being or not being TTA, but I do want to make clear that this could NOT be the motive for burning the tapes. Based on the first time we see the distortion hole, we can be reasonably sure that Alex burned the tapes most likely BEFORE Jay starts his snooping, and at the very least before Season 2. And yet we have a clearly timestamped video of Alex and Amy living together(and Amy acting normal) that takes place well after these events.

Amy becoming TTA after this encounter with the Operator might make sense, but that absolutely ISN'T why Alex burned the tapes. The timing just doesn't work.

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Animal
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 		As someone mentioned before, Alex is going to be pissed when he sees that he posted one of his tapes he tried to burn

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Dreveth
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 		I'd be willing to pay to see his reaction. Very Happy

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Coolbro Swaggins
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 		It was good as a setup entry and seems to be providing us with some big connections from S1 which have been desperately needed for a long, long time.

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