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Teedub
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This place is filled with tl;dr. Ha

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Sha Noran
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The jury needs whatever it decides it needs for proof. If the jury decides there isn't enough evidence, whether physical evidence or motive, they might decide the man is innocent. If you can PROVE a motive in addition to providing physical evidence, it's hard to disagree on the guilt. I argue merely Alex and the cast's motives, not the physical evidence.

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Sha Noran
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Also mental illness or insanity IS a defense plea. Even if Alex did it, what if he snapped out of it and claimed he was insane? Or not under control of his own actions? Manslaughter certainly but not murder... Just a consideration from the proxy side of things.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Also mental illness or insanity IS a defense plea. Even if Alex did it, what if he snapped out of it and claimed he was insane? Or not under control of his own actions? Manslaughter certainly but not murder... Just a consideration from the proxy side of things.
I could argue that anyone willingly killing another person with the exception of self-defense is somehow defective mentally though. It takes a pretty messed up person to willingly kill someone else.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Also mental illness or insanity IS a defense plea. Even if Alex did it, what if he snapped out of it and claimed he was insane? Or not under control of his own actions? Manslaughter certainly but not murder... Just a consideration from the proxy side of things.

You raise a pretty fair point.
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The Operator doesn't kill you--not initially. It's worse than that. He strips your life of every good thing in it. Alex Kralie used to have a heart. He used to have a lover, friends, dreams, a future. He has none of these things now. He lives a marginal existance in hiding, boiling with rage at what's been stolen from him. He probably won't live to see 30. He's a victim all right, but no less frightening or dangerous for it.

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Sometimes reasons are needed. I don't really know how are legal things in the USA (I suppose it is pretty much the same), but if a person acts under a mental disease or a big threat over their lifes they are guilty of their acts, of course, but they won't be judged the same and their sentence will be different.
Maybe with Alex is the same.
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Gante wrote:
The Operator doesn't kill you--not initially. It's worse than that. He strips your life of every good thing in it. Alex Kralie used to have a heart. He used to have a lover, friends, dreams, a future. He has none of these things now. He lives a marginal existance in hiding, boiling with rage at what's been stolen from him. He probably won't live to see 30. He's a victim all right, but no less frightening or dangerous for it.


The Operator is like the opposite of the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who. In my head, anyway.
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Lithp
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I'm fairly certain that juries are given a standard of proof that they're supposed to adhere to.

That said, to answer the "must be crazy to kill someone" thing, common misconception, but "normal people" can & do kill for various reasons, one great example being social reasons. Mob mentality, following orders, etc. It's also worth noting that not all mental abnormalities are "insanity," the defense is designed for illnesses that involve a break with reality. If you're a psychopath, that could be said to be a mental abnormality, but it doesn't impair your decision-making, so it doesn't absolve guilt.

Anyway, we moved from "can Alex be trusted" to "is Alex guilty," which is a totally different thing, & it makes me wonder if someone didn't forget their original point midstream, but to that, I don't think that Alex has any kind of split personality, nor is he being controlled, I think it is both more likely & more interesting if he is essentially a normal person who is so wracked by paranoia that he has violent outbursts.

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Gante wrote:
The Operator doesn't kill you--not initially. It's worse than that. He strips your life of every good thing in it. Alex Kralie used to have a heart. He used to have a lover, friends, dreams, a future. He has none of these things now. He lives a marginal existance in hiding, boiling with rage at what's been stolen from him. He probably won't live to see 30. He's a victim all right, but no less frightening or dangerous for it.



That definitely sounds like a defense attorney`s opening statement!

Seriously, though, I agree. I believe Alex is a victim that gradually become more and more Slendified as he continued to have confrontations with TO. That`s why I think he tried to hide/destroy tapes having to do with Amy out of respect and love for her. He`s probably lost that bit of humanity by now.
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Waulker
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What the hell? I waited ages for them to fix a tape that, if we are thinking in game terms, should be a top priority in J's life. I'm sympathetic to a surgery and whatever, but it simply should not have taken this long. It's not feasible story-wise.

Second, this entry gave me nothing. I watched, hoping desperately for an operator appearance (which was relatively sloppy when it came), and afterwards, I thought to myself, why? What was the point of this? Amy means nothing. There really is no way that she could be TTA, honestly people.

At this point, I'm waiting for nicholas cage to appear, and lead us to the ark.

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FalloutGhoul
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Waulker wrote:
What the hell? I waited ages for them to fix a tape that, if we are thinking in game terms, should be a top priority in J's life. I'm sympathetic to a surgery and whatever, but it simply should not have taken this long. It's not feasible story-wise.

Second, this entry gave me nothing. I watched, hoping desperately for an operator appearance (which was relatively sloppy when it came), and afterwards, I thought to myself, why? What was the point of this? Amy means nothing. There really is no way that she could be TTA, honestly people.

At this point, I'm waiting for nicholas cage to appear, and lead us to the ark.

Forgive me for what I'm about to say, but you sound like a mix between Pravado and Serum. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Forgive me for what I'm about to say, but you sound like a mix between Pravado and Serum. Laughing Laughing Laughing[/quote]

Don't know what that means, I was just expressing genuine disappointment.

For someone who has watched the series up to this point many many times through, I truly believe the entry into these 'tapes' -notice I don't say "Amy Tapes"- should have had much more impact, and should have been delivered faster; as if this was real, not an ARG. I'm not demanding next day service either, so be sure not to twist my words, as I've noticed so many people do on this forum.

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I'm going to have to agree with Waulker and Pravado here.

What a dissapointment.

Holding out some hope that the next tape has some relevant information on it and this was just a nostalgia throwback and a warm up to a bigger entry...

I usually am never dissapointed in a MH entry, when I am all I have are tiny gripes and I still enjoy the entry. This was a lot of buildup to the absolute shoddiest operator appearance of the series, and barely any plot.
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Tim Wright?

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