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Kraehtot
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 		I find fun that a thread supposed to discuss about MH fanfiction have ended in a discussion about yaoi between characters xDDD

Grumplestiltskin wrote:
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No, my gripe is that they, in fact, will not do that, & any fanfiction that says they will is misrepresenting the characters, & would be better off just making its own.

I am fine with a pairing if I think there's a good basis for it.


Please do provide an example of such a pairing you would find acceptable. Any fandom you like, but to prove this point, het does not count.


I must say that I am a female and I agree with Lithp: I don't like when people "creates erotic/amorous relationships" between characters when in the series/books/mangas/whatever there is no sign of this kind of attraction. I don't care if those beloved but inexistent pairings are yaoi, yuri (I think it is the name?), or straight, what I care about is that it changes the characters' personalities and likes... so I don't support them. And, you might recognize that any Jay/Tim/Alex pairing is kinda out of characters' actual personalities/likes (Alex is supposed to be in love with Amy and Jay if is or will be in love with someone I think it would be with Jessica. Tim having trouble with having friends makes him more likely to fall in love with any male character, but he has not showed any evidence of that.)

It is different when those invented relationships have any "proves" or something like that in the real story.

Using the example of Bleach again: There are people who wants Ichigo to be with Rukia, people who wants him to be with Orihime (both relationships would make sense) but when someone wants to pair Ichigo with Chad (Sado) or with Yoruichi, then I think there is no reason to establish those pairings... Idk, each person has his/her own likes.


And talking about the MHfanfiction again, I have not read any of them, but for some reason I find MH is a series which is really, REALLY difficult to be well "fanfictioned" (I love when I invent verbs xD). But if anyone can show me any good fanfic I would change my mind and even try to write one myself!
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 		Step 1: Create a thread about MH fanfiction

Step 2: Sit back and enjoy as it unravels into a discussion about gay and lesbian porn Cool

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Gale wrote:
There are fanfiction of the series. Bad news is that it's usually slash, mary sue characters dating the characters or just plain as god awful writing.

Same goes for any Slenderverse series (TT, EMH...).


That`s what gets me frustrated about Slenderverse fanfics, although don`t get me wrong, I`m glad fics are out there to get more people turned on (no pun intended Rolling Eyes ) to MH, EMH, etc.

I just believe that the majority of the fics I`ve seen thus far feature slash... I even read one where Jay was teleported back in time by TO (sort of like Firebrand did in TT) and began a relationship with HIMSELF. I do respect the writers' rights to write whatever they want, and I`m used to seeing slashfics in every category (the WWE slashfics are pretty damn bad if you ask me), but I would really like to see more MH fics that focus not on slash, but the writers` theories being played out.

The worst fics though, in my opinion, are the Mary Sue fics. There are plenty in any category of fics I go to; it`s like one cannot escape them. In WWE fics, for example, I would say 85% of the fics that don`t focus on a slash relationship feature a self-insert/Mary Sue so they can pretend they`re in a relationship with their favorite wrestler. I haven`t seen much Mary Sue stories in MH`s category yet, except one where the writer actually replaced Jessica with a Mary Sue (that coincidently looked exactly like her profile picture) and was somehow immune to the TO`s powers and Jay fell for her in the hotel. Those are the worst types of fics imaginable.

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Step 1: Create a thread about MH fanfiction

Step 2: Sit back and enjoy as it unravels into a discussion about gay and lesbian porn Cool


LOL! I`m a new poster here (which I`m sure I`ve said a million times already Rolling Eyes sorry) and this is the first thread I`ve created so I`m just happy it got responses at all... Even if they are on porn! Razz

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 		I'm generally not a fan of shipping characters together when there's been no romance shown between the pair of them at all. Then again, whatever floats your boat.

I'm all for well-written fanfiction that actually tells a story, and isn't a medium for lazily written porn or terrible Mary Sue self-inserts.

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 		Sorry. Before I got involved in a slapfight Catfight! with Lithp, I did actually make the point in my original post that I was interested in well-written, non-slash fics:
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Which is why I won't have anything to do with MH slashfic -- I like the characters too much to see them subjected to idiotic writing.

That said, if ToTheTapes can point me toward some of this thoughtful, well-written, actual-plot-having fic, I'd be willing to give that a go.


For the record: I am not in favor of Mary-Sues, Gary-Sues, or time-travelling mental masturbation. I was adopting a Devil's Advocate position because... that's what I do in the wee hours of the morning when I can't sleep. I'll try to rein that impulse in.

But really: who can resist a slapfight with Lithp? Laughing


p.s. Kraehtot, your invented verbs are splendid, as is your analysis of this thread. Worshippy

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 		Slapfighting with Lithp is sometimes the only reason I come on this forum... Laughing

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Serum, Prophet or no, there are some things that even devoted acolytes will not do. You're going to have to find your own MH slash, hon.


No, I meant... Why are you all talking about buttsex?

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Serum wrote:
Grumplestiltskin wrote:
Serum, Prophet or no, there are some things that even devoted acolytes will not do. You're going to have to find your own MH slash, hon.


No, I meant... Why are you all talking about buttsex?


Why aren't we talking about buttsex?
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Grumplestiltskin wrote:
p.s. Kraehtot, your invented verbs are splendid, as is your analysis of this thread. Worshippy


Oh, stop it, you. You'll make me blush Smile


Also, ToTheTapes could you share with us some good fanfics? (And could you explain to me what a Mary Sue fic is, please? Embarassed ).
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Kraehtot wrote:
Grumplestiltskin wrote:
p.s. Kraehtot, your invented verbs are splendid, as is your analysis of this thread. Worshippy


Oh, stop it, you. You'll make me blush Smile


Also, ToTheTapes could you share with us some good fanfics? (And could you explain to me what a Mary Sue fic is, please? Embarassed ).


A Mary Sue fic is usually one that's been written involving a self-insert character of the author's, or just a character they've created who is just so gosh-darn perfect. So, for example there was one mentioned earlier I believe where someone had rewritten Jessica's character as one of theirs, Jay fell in love with her and they probably had lots of romantic rumpy-pumpy in the hotel while TO was somehow indisposed.

...does that make sense?
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Clairabel wrote:

A Mary Sue fic is usually one that's been written involving a self-insert character of the author's, or just a character they've created who is just so gosh-darn perfect. So, for example there was one mentioned earlier I believe where someone had rewritten Jessica's character as one of theirs, Jay fell in love with her and they probably had lots of romantic rumpy-pumpy in the hotel while TO was somehow indisposed.

...does that make sense?


Aww, thank you so much ^^ I thought it could be that, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for explaining! Very Happy
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 		I'm stupid. What does shipping and slashfic mean..? Because I ship things on a daily basis, this word, Shipping,



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Grumplestiltskin wrote:
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I wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole. For some ungodly reason, females seem to always want to put Jay and Tim (and/or Alex) in a gay relationship with each other.

YAOI DOESN'T GO EVERYWHERE LADIES Evil or Very Mad


Ztakk, I think the reasons that women like to read slashfiction are rather similar to the reasons men like to watch lesbian porn, and certainly no more "ungodly" -- two attractive-to-the-viewer people together are twice the attractive people: it's pretty, it's erotic, and it's less distracting than a hetero couple would be, because the viewer is not drawn in to mental comparisons with the character of matching gender: is he/she more attractive than I am, better endowed?

I definitely don't think that the women who produce and consume this variety of fanfic intend that it cast aspersions upon the perceived manliness of Jay, Tim, or Alex (or for that matter, Troy, Tim, or Joseph). It's not meant as an insult or a diminution; it's purely a recognition of how attractive women find these men and the characters they play.

I will say that I found it hilarious that Joseph had a meltdown (I think it was last summer?) when one of his Tumblr fans asked if he'd ever read any MH fanfic, and he searched online and found some, all right. I live with these people! You ought to be ashamed! was the response, or something very close to it. (This, of course, is the very same Joseph who absolutely cannot keep his hands out of Tim Sutton's hair whenever they are doing a panel at a con -- he wants to eat his cake and have it, too. He chastises the fans and at the same time eggs them on, quite the little mindfucker.) So, yes, hilarious not because I enjoy his distress, but because it seems so very deeply hypocritical.

What he should have been up in arms about was the fact that the fic he found was abominably written. He posted a snippet of it, and it was so, so, bad. So bad.

Which is why I won't have anything to do with MH slashfic -- I like the characters too much to see them subjected to idiotic writing.


That said, if ToTheTapes can point me toward some of this thoughtful, well-written, actual-plot-having fic, I'd be willing to give that a go.


And yes, I find the actors who portray those characters very attractive; I think you would be hard-pressed to find a female fan of MH who does not: they're funny, they're smart, and they're creative -- and damn cute.


You obviously have not spent time with a lot of fangirls...It's not about putting two of the same-sex together in the same sexual way males do with females because they find it sexually appealing, they do it EVERYWHERE. It's literally just a hobby of "oh let's see who we can put together"

And you COMPLETELY misconstrued my use of the word "ungodly" had I meant going against a religion or anything. If I was, I would have used a word specifically saying exactly that. Here I'm using it meaning something along the lines of weird, strange, off-the-wall, etc.

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I live with these people! You ought to be ashamed! was the response, or something very close to it. (This, of course, is the very same Joseph who absolutely cannot keep his hands out of Tim Sutton's hair whenever they are doing a panel at a con


Just popping in to give my take on this (I don't do slash, or really any shipping at all for really.. any fandom at all. Esp not stuff like Marble Hornets where the plot doesn't call for it at all): There is a line between how you act with your friends and seeing people write things about you and your friends. I mean, hell, most of my friends and I are in theater- and anyone who's been in any sort of theater/acting setting knows personal space is one of the first things to go: sitting in laps, playing with hair, pecks on the cheek for good luck- but it's just fun between friends, nothing sexual in any shape or form. Even if there wasn't outright sex in that fic (which I haven't read at all, nach) it would have still had sexual undertones, so I can see why that would creep him out like that. It's crossing the line of "this is okay between friends" to "we're fangirls and we think this so really hot"

Also from more of a biased perspective, if I was working really hard on a project and saw people bugging me about slash I'd consider it an insult to my work- is that really all you got out of it? no this has nothing to do with the recent hubub about supernatural fandom insanity i swear

Anyway on a somewhat more related note I did sort of start a rather shitty crossover with Doctor Who and MH but it was really really shitty (and I decided to work on original fiction instead of stealing) so I gave up on it about two chapters in. If someone wants to adopt it then by all means go ahead.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7476296/1/Run

Oh, and I totally forgot I wrote this one... Hm. It was actually fun, playing around with a new writing style. I might add to it perhaps...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7475776/1/One-Two-Three-Four

EDIT: Also recommending this one because it's all kinds of brilliant. Of course I'm a sucker for a good Noir. ;]

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7234043/1/Noirble-Hornets
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Slendermau5 wrote:
Step 1: Create a thread about MH fanfiction

Step 2: Sit back and enjoy as it unravels into a discussion about gay and lesbian porn Cool


^^^This. I would have been interested in reading some, but after reading the thread, it sounds like it's not something to google. Similar to wondering, hmm what's a lemonparty? Don't google that either.

If some of the supposed "quality" non-homoerotic ones were linked in this thread I might take the time to check it out.

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