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[VIDEO] Entry #71
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Foood
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Araenna wrote:

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Which struck me as very odd since he had been living around that area since he was eight, and never seemed to have a problem with it.

From the above SA post.

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I thought I would be safer here. By running away. But everything has just gotten worse. I'm going back to my home.

From Entry 22.

I don't know if this had been decided already, but it seems pretty likely he lived in the town Tim grew up in. Maybe he went away for college, thinking he could escape TO, and got followed? Would explain why he immediately starts trying to video everything when he first sees him when walking the dog.

Hmm, but the "basement of doom" from Entry #22 is probably the hospital basement, which is in Rosswood Town.

As I see it, after the events of this Entry, Alex "ran away" to Rosswood Town, where he thought he'd be safer. Later, Seth tracks him down there and is like "hey, we gotta go to the abandoned hospital because Slendy ate my dog" or something, they go there and film #22, Seth is "gone", and then Alex decides to return to his "home" in college town to burn the tapes. But somehow totheark steals the tapes for #22 and #51, preventing them from being burned. The #22 tape is later hidden in the tower for Jay to find, and Alex manages to get the #51 tape back but never gets around to destroying it.

and adfgdfgds i don't know, why does it have to be so complicated?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:34 am

undervattensflugan
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ALEXGORDON wrote:

TomCat wrote:

At first, I thought that the short clip of driving at the tail end of the entry was insignificant and just something to show that Alex's tapes could have contained more stuff than just the "important" events that are relevant to the plot. However, after thinking about it some more, I'm starting to wonder if this scene is actually much more significant to the plot than it initially seemed (or as it initially seemed to me, at least).

I thought that the footage was of Alex driving in his car after attacking Jay. However, what if that was footage of Alex driving Jay's car? I don't think that this was when Alex made Jay "gone". Rather, I think that Alex, after taking a second look out his window and realizing that he had made a mistake by giving Jay the tapes, could have attacked Jay and rendered him unconscious, not with the goal of killing him or "sending him away", but rather with the intention of preventing him from immediately looking through the tapes that Alex just gave him. This could be a stretch, but I don't think it's outrageous to think that Alex could have knocked Jay out, then taken his keys and driven Jay's car (along with his unconscious body) back to Jay's house, placing Jay in his bed or something to make it seem to him like he just woke up normally the next morning, and then maybe Alex placed the bags of tapes in the back of Jay's closet, hoping that Jay would forget about the fact that he had the tapes knowing that it would be unlikely that Jay would find them if they were hidden deep in his closet. That would kind of explain the reason why it took Jay three years to find the tapes in the back of his closet, and Jay seemed somewhat surprised to find them there (or at least it seemed so by they way he mentioned it in the Introduction video). Think about it � you're Jay and you just received two bags full of tapes from a close friend of yours who told you never to speak to him about them again, in a very firm and serious manner. Do you think you would just go back home that night, place the tapes in the back of your closet yourself and then completely forget about them for three years? I don't know about you guys, but I would be far too curious to allow that to happen, and we all know that our ol' pal Jay is quite the curious cat himself.

So, while it may not be completely well-supported that Alex intended to knock Jay out and take him back to his home in order to jumble his memory in hopes of making him forget about the fact that he had received that cache of mysterious tapes from Alex just the night before, I think it stands to reason that this could have been Alex's motive. I just refuse to believe that the short clip at the end of the entry with the camera (which we know to be Alex's camera, not Jay's) pointed out the window, while an unknown driver drove an unknown car, was just some insignificant random footage that they chose to throw in there for realism's sake. I think it has a deeper meaning.

Quoting not because I agree, but because it did get me thinking. What if, as you said, Alex immediately regretted giving Jay the tapes and so attacked him. However, not to bring him back to Jay's home and lay him down to sleep - instead, to get to the bag of tapes and take back the ones he didn't want Jay to ever see.

This would explain why Jay got a series of tapes while we later learn that Alex withheld many others. It also explains how Jay happened to get some footage that contained incriminating material, presumably unintentionally on Alex's part. In the moment, Alex wasn't able to know with full confidence which tapes to take, so while he took some, he also accidentally left a couple behind.

How would Alex know which tapes to take? They were unlabeled.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:36 am

Aram
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Yeah, I always figured that TTA had somehow got ahold of #22 and hid it for Jay to find, while Alex was just compelled to hold on to #51. (No complicated stealing & re-stealing necessary.)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:40 am

Grumplestiltskin
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undervattensflugan wrote:

How would Alex know which tapes to take? They were unlabeled.

THIS.

Unless he'd been watching them, setting aside his "favorites"...

Dammitz, this entry is a whole lot of "I don't know!"

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:43 am

sunkenkraken
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Long time lurker, first time poster. So far I haven't read anything (might have missed it) that connected the location of where Alex is driving at the end of 71 with where Jay was driving at the start of the Intro.

I believe they are the same location, filmed from different angles:

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:49 am

zbeeblebrox
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Grumplestiltskin wrote:

undervattensflugan wrote:

How would Alex know which tapes to take? They were unlabeled.

THIS.

Unless he'd been watching them, setting aside his "favorites"...

Dammitz, this entry is a whole lot of "I don't know!"

Simple answer: he knew because he was the one who set them aside, and then specifically tore off their labels. It's important to point out that we don't see him storing the tapes he gives to Jay - those are up in the attic. What we saw is him storing the tapes he doesn't give to Jay. That's also why Alexgordron's post is wrong.

We'll never know if these extra tapes had labels, because even on the rescued tapes they would've been burned off.

[edit] Good eye, Sunken

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:52 am
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Der Wafflehaus
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Entry 26 and 71. Same box?

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:55 am

zbeeblebrox
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Interesting. But if so, then that means it was emptied of its contents and then refilled with a single tape that wouldn't have been filmed yet at the time of this video.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:00 am

Coolbro Swaggins
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sunkenkraken wrote:

From 26:

http://i.imgur.com/F7qwbiM.png

I'm thinking this is also a distorted view.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:01 am
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Beidah
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Der Wafflehaus wrote:

Entry 26 and 71. Same box?

The box is the ark.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:01 am

amrith777
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Beidah wrote:

Der Wafflehaus wrote:

Entry 26 and 71. Same box?

The box is the ark.

It all makes sense now.

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Tharol said:

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:05 am

Grumplestiltskin
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TheMoldyPudding wrote:

...One last thing I want to bring up: In some 2006 tapes, Alex has long hair. In some he has short hair. We have seen that he had short hair during the beginning of filming, but also has short hair at the end as we see in this entry. Is this just a continuity error because they obviously can't wait for Joseph's hair to grow? Also, small nitpick: why wasn't Alex wearing glasses?
Again, this entry gives us more questions than answers. I still liked it though.

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I think it's probably a continuity thing. My guess about the real-time timing of this film, based on the location (the house from "Troy Moves Out") is that they filmed this back in July or August of '12, when they also did "TMO," because, who would want to have to empty a house twice for a film project? Also, Joseph is a bit heavier than he was in some of the "2006" tapes from season 1, and we know that OOG Joe has been gaining weight in the last year.

Realistically, the BroTrin are filming these things over a long period of time, in extremely disjointed order, from a storyline that they've had to improvise to conform to details they chose early on that now constrain them in some ways. Some stuff is gonna mismatch. No big whoop.

And the glasses? Maybe he wears contacts sometimes, too. It happens. Wink

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:10 am

Oscar Langley
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What if Alex did take the tapes back only for Hoody to sneak them into Jay's closet 3 years later?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:34 am

Little_Socrates
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Okay, this is pretty wild speculation, but it was what immediately came to mind after watching the entry. Also, forgive the shitty writing, but it's approaching 5 am and I have to get back to studying.

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When Alex left Jay lying face-first, I presumed Jay was dead. Not "left for dead," actually dead-dead. Hard for me to believe Alex would just, y'know, NOT kill him all of a sudden after killing everybody else, one way or another. Probably checked his pulse or something.

Obviously, this would be a problem. BUT! Aha. We have that weird distortion where we cut to Jay's face warping...into a ghost-like face. A face with features pretty ill-defined apart from his big eyes and mouth. Sounds...familiar, actually.

Sounds like a friend who seems to always know where Jay is and speaks to him very cryptically. Someone who seems to always know his passwords and hack his accounts a whole bunch.

Even presuming Alex just left Jay to TO as a sacrifice, why would Jay still be alive? And how do we explain Jay's warped memory? Through Alex's ability to "manipulate people's heads?" No, I don't buy it. At least, it doesn't seem any more plausible than what I'm about to say.

Guys, I'm pretty sure Hoody is Jay. Well, Hoody is Jay 1. And, well, we've been hanging out with Jay 2 this whole time.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:43 am

Coolbro Swaggins
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Little_Socrates wrote:

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Unless there are physically 2 Jays, no. Hoody/Jay have appeared together in entries this season which pretty much put a nail in the coffin on any of the main 3 guys being Hoody.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:47 am

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