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sequoya
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New blog post up, looks like a clue to the next drop (in a book in a particular library next to a distinctive building)....

http://stoptoilworndiamond.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/another-email-from-pasi.html

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Hi Beth!

Since my last email, I've been going through my notes and I think I found something! I remember hiding one part of the coded word in a library and I found these photos from my album (Luckily I was an enthusiastic photographer at the time). As you know, it's crucial to get that piece of information. Hopefully these images are helpful enough!


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Interesting book. Especially the pages 212-213.

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amandel
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Hi! So, possibly the next playing card is in between those two pages of that book on the Otaniemi campus library?

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Alvar Aalto's landmark auditorium of the main building of the Otaniemi campus. The amphitheatre-like structure contains the main auditoriums, while its exterior can be used for plays and other activities. Wiki LINK

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sequoya
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amandel wrote:
Hi! So, possibly the next playing card is in between those two pages of that book on the Otaniemi campus library?


Nice find! Seems that way! Smile So, do we need GuestUser17's friend again, or is anyone else in Helsinki?
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sequoya wrote:

Nice find! Seems that way! Smile So, do we need GuestUser17's friend again, or is anyone else in Helsinki?

Already on it! Smile I've sent an email to my coworker to ask her to check the blog if she had not seen it already. She's done with work for today but I'll see if she responds anyway. If not I expect she will get back to me tomorrow.
On a side note, she is more a Geocacher than an ARGer so she left the previous drop as she found it for anyone else that wants to go there too.

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sequoya
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Hm, I'd forgotten all about the 'Mona Lisa' picture being unsolved, but Beth has a clue of sorts up on her blog (http://stoptoilworndiamond.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/update-on-mona-lisa-picture.html)

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The pixelated picture of Mona Lisa has been puzzling since it was discovered several weeks ago (see the comments of this blog post). I received an email from a helpful and skillful friend who reads this blog. This is what she pondered about the picture:

"…and believe that the pixelated image at http://stoptoilworndiamond.co.nf/sanomali.html likely contains another image, probably a QR code. I think the pixels need to be rearranged based on the red component RGB value and for that you'll need someone with true programming knowledge."

I post her comment here hoping that there is someone with the sufficient programming knowledge who could benefit from the clever idea and try it out.


Any ideas?
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amandel
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Nice going & THX GuestUser! Below is the original email I sent to Beth. It's so beyond my skillz I couldn't grasp how to post the programming idea/guess here first.

Amandel in an email to Beth wrote:
...on a learning curve and believe that the pixelated image at http://stoptoilworndiamond.co.nf/sanomali.html likely contains another image, probably a QR code.

I think the pixels need to be rearranged based on the red component RGB value and for that you'll need someone with true programming knowledge. It seems logical to me to have one of the challenge entrants or one of the dismissed Avecira programmers in your corner now if you are cautious.

Usually I'm reluctant to jabber on about a topic (programming) I'm clueless about and certainly hope I haven't bored you.

And in her email reply Beth wrote:
Well, it doesn't matter how much programming you know if you can't figure out what you are doing. Your idea seems like a best one I've heard so far. I don't have the programming skills either, so let's hope someone picks it up!

ETA: Since the pixel idea involves CS skillz there are also still the 2 keys left with "the fast flying bananas" phrases that imo weren't needed to solve message #7
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Beth's got another image she suggests may have a similar solution to the yet-unsolved Mona Lisa.

nekkonke.png

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sequoya
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Mehetabel wrote:
Beth's got another image she suggests may have a similar solution to the yet-unsolved Mona Lisa.

nekkonke.png


Probably irrelevant to the actual puzzle, but I'm guessing the guy in this picture is Urho Kekkonen, a former prime minister of Finland, judging by the anagram of the file name.
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Adm_BlackCat
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I opened up sanomali and the new nekkonke png's in a hex editor and found some interesting details.

--sanomali has "tEXtCreation Time.2022-06-30 23:59:60 +0000"
--nekkonke has "tEXtCreation Time.2051-06-30 23:59:60 +0000"

So there's definitely something there. And seeing as how each message has two puzzles, the first solve indicating how to solve the second, it might be helpful to go back and look at how the Uncle Sam picture was solved.
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GuestUser17 wrote:
sequoya wrote:

Nice find! Seems that way! Smile So, do we need GuestUser17's friend again, or is anyone else in Helsinki?

Already on it! Smile I've sent an email to my coworker to ask her to check the blog if she had not seen it already. She's done with work for today but I'll see if she responds anyway. If not I expect she will get back to me tomorrow.
On a side note, she is more a Geocacher than an ARGer so she left the previous drop as she found it for anyone else that wants to go there too.

The library was closed all day today but she will try again next week unless someone else wants to try - just make sure to check it is open before having them go there.

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Mehetabel
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Message 11, courtesy of Beth:

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My best guess is the Richard & Buck faces are binary. The lion, cat, cougar represent an arithmetics or some other mathematical function to fill in the blanks. Dunno
Probably put the results with goo.gl
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sequoya
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I feel like Beth's accompanying text holds a clue here, but I can't quite see what it's getting at:

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Richard has been partly impressed to see his own face in it, but also somehow scared of what it might reveal. I heard a rumor that he filled every empty space with his own picture and then said to one of my co-workers: "Use the uplook to check whether it leads somewhere, chop-chop!", but apparently it didn't.


Just seems rather strange language that Richard uses, is there more behind it than it at first seems? And why did he fill every empty space with his own picture?
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iamthor
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I assumed the text was a clue too and I did get a few Google hits on "lookup chop". The description sounds like it might fit: "The Lookup CHOP outputs values from a lookup table. The first input (the Index Channel) is an index into the second input (the Lookup Table). Lookup outputs interpolated values from the lookup table." But I have no idea how to apply it to this table.

Between this, the face modeling challenge and the two unsolved image puzzles, it really seems like she's expecting an uncommon level of image manipulation expertise. I'm out of my depth.

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amandel
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Laughing **humming You're So Vain ** at Richard wanting his face plastered all over this quasi-sudoku. And SUPERB tips from y'all above, giving me a lot to rethink.

As I can't formulate or use a Lookup CHOP (divide & conquer algorithm) am still trying to form 7 vertical binary columns using some Sudoku rules for a goo.gl/ (results)
ETA: Thought the "cats" might have relative values but got nowhere fast & that Richard...he never writes; he never phones. ::sigh::
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