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[Trailhead?] Strange letter and key
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Jane Smith
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petunia wrote:

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Dangit, I get sucked back in for this.... Rolling Eyes


Just because your lurking and see something interesting and want this to turn out to be a really great story, and you check on a thread you thought you wouldn't doesn't mean your sucked back in..er..wait a min Confused

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based on my wide knowledge of snowy things gained from living here in the Deep South).


Umm LOVE THIS ..and yes..

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*brain goes round in circles, then asplodes*


I think we should all send each other letters like this and go crazy..er

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Urg


Yeah pretty much where this is at and the fact that I ...just..need to make..sense of this! Anyways..I was just lurking..on uhh other things



DR!! this better pan out to be "gold in dem der hills" pulling us old folk out of the shadows. Shifty Eyes


ticktacticktac....tap..tap
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Hey now, I'm just posting about what info I'm receiving. Speaking of which...two more pages arrived today!! Same story as before, same envelope marked confidential/destroy. The text is as follows:

I begin to wonder if our research has failed us. We are on expedition day 3 and days of digging, plotting and surveying have led to naught. Are we in the right place? The tales we unearthed were so sure. There was no doubt back in warmer latitudes. Now that we are here we spend our days scouring the ground for any evidence of the burial site and nights pouring over research. I am positive we will find some error that would explain our lack of success. I will not despair. The answer is here somewhere!

The sun has now set. What poor manners to cut our work short in the hour before our our triumph. Even as we put down our tools on our final day of digging, the glint of black ivory caught the Sun's final rays. We have found the tomb. Tomorrow we shall see if this expedition was worthwhile.


16 dogs per sled = 48

48 * 3 lbs is 144 lbs per day

2 lbs wet
1 lbs dry 16 lbs per day

Kannannask (?)



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Jane Smith
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wellll.. if it states "Kananaskis" Then we are still in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kananaskis_Country

As you can see we have a research facility. a university and a large population of early native peoples.

Tombs relation? Finding /alien/king/god/

WHAT IN THE GODDAMNED TOMB???.. well next week Wink

sleepy jane go sleepy
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DR!! this better pan out to be "gold in dem der hills" pulling us old folk out of the shadows. Shifty Eyes


Hear hear!! Wink (Or we will beat you with our canes.)

Kananaskis is similar, but it really doesn't look like exactly the same word. That's definitely not an "S" at the end. Any chance of a more focused image? It's awfully blurry, like when I get too close with my iphone camera. Sad

Kananaskis is also not as far north as the Northwest Passage expeditions we've found out about (and, I'll be honest, not as far north as I was hoping for). And there's no big obvious waterways where I'd expect to see a shipwreck (tho it seems less likely now that that's what we're looking for). OTOH, there are a few lakes, including one called Hidden Lake. Heh.

The University of Calgary's coat of arms, sadly, bears little resemblance to the seal on the letters.

"Black ivory" could be the horn of a black rhino... from southern Africa. WTF.

I shall now put my math minor to good use by completely screwing up the math in this letter and confusing everyone:

16 dogs per sled = 48.... so we have 3 sleds for a total of 48 dogs.
48 * 3 lbs implies that each dog is expected to handle 3 lbs a day. (Handle how? Carry it where? If they didn't have dogs on the way there, they seem to have them now. Which is weird because if even the Eskimo guide wouldn't hang around, then where are they supposed to get dogs?)

Anyway, looks like they are expecting to haul a total of 144 lbs per day. I'm thinking maybe they want the dogs to haul the stuff up out of the tomb. So there must be a lot of stuff. Probably not a frozen black rhino, though.

2 lbs wet, 1 lb dry, 16 lbs per day... I got nothin. Too vague for me.
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could the wet and dry be the food the dogs will eat ? Confused

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Jane Smith
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We are all for mystery Dr. but if you would be so kind as to not take pictures with the potato you have obviously been shooting with..umm that would be greaaatt... Laughing

So based on your photo here is what I see:

Kanocorn
Krispycream
Kluckkluck
Kammaramadamadingdong


Did I mention I am old now and cannot see well?

If this kananAssLickMcnasty is important we might want to make sure it says Kannannask.

I just say this incase we are not in a totally fictional universe here and they want you to "find" some thing, or we are researching eskimo/language/lore/sammiches.....mnnn sammiches

Any ways discuss Karmacoma..er Kannanask

*Hugs* Foily!
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2 lbs wet, 1 lb dry, 16 lbs per day


The dogs could be moving soil. It was a common way to move it during large archeological digs in the past and that could link to this as I was always told to remember to account for soil moisture and weight when digging as it can crush whatever you plan to dig out or just take longer if you are using a machine.


One thing still bugging me is why they packed cocoa, its odd but I have never heard of an exhibition team in the early 1900s carrying it as it was not the most popular drink

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Except we're not sure they did in fact pack cocoa.

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- Put in a double order of cocoa for the ???t


They did bring coffee and tea, though - so yeah, why cocoa? Surely they weren't bringing a kid along? This would be when a pic of this section of the letter could really come in handy. Even if it's from a potatocam. Flaming Nutter

Anyway, it is interesting that the cocoa line was not just checked off, but struck through, as in "never mind, a single ration is fine" or "nvm, the ???t ain't coming anyway" or something.
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Okay, here is a better shot of the page. You all can tell me what it says Wink



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Yay, much better! Thank you Dr! Very Happy

Ok, that last vowel definitely doesn't look like an A. So my best guess is that is says Kannannisk. Which gets us exactly bupkis. In fact, this guy's handwriting is not the most consistent - check out the words "Tomorrow" and "expedition". Cold fingers?

But hang on... the math part says "48 x 3L is 144L per day," but the wet/dry part says "lbs' for pounds. L is for liters, not pounds, yeah? So the dogs will be hauling a bunch of liquid something out of the tomb. Seawater? What good would that do, wouldn't it just fill back up?

Also not sure about the 2 lbs wet/ 1 lbs dry thing. I can barely tell the 2 and the 1 apart. In fact they both kinda look like 2s to me. And the 1 in "16 lbs per day" doesn't have the horizontal line on the bottom like his other 1s do.

Then there's the implication that they don't have much time, because a mining company is going to start drilling for something soon. Oil (also known as black gold, not black ivory)?

This expedition is starting to sound awfully messy, even for archaeology.

edited because it's black gold, not black old
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Well coffee and tea were standard issue for these trips the exact amounts depending on the nationality of the trip.

I find it interesting they are ordering the cocoa as opposed to packing it, suggesting that it was a special buy as opposed to something they already had.

Black Ivory is also a coffee made from beans trapped in elephant dung...but that makes even less sense.


What is confusing me is that we have specific details that are utterly accurate (Primus stove) yet stuff that is totally out of place for this kind of thing (the ship)


One way of explaining the dogs would be the fact the dogs met them via the ship as opposed to keeping them on the train, this has many advantages, one of which is that your dogs are fresh for the hard bits of the trail as opposed to keeping them busy when you can drag it yourself, or maybe the dogs are from someone else suggesting this is an unofficial trip so they are having to pull supplies from various people and places.

My main issue is the fact that they are trying to dig up a tomb with what sounds like 2 or 3 people..that might take a while especially in frozen soil, however it would totally fit with using the dogs to move soil.


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"48 x 3L is 144L per day," but the wet/dry part says "lbs' for pounds. L is for liters, not pounds, yeah? So the dogs will be hauling a bunch of liquid something out of the tomb. Seawater? What good would that do, wouldn't it just fill back up?


Well it could be Liters but I more often see that written as l as opposed to L. It should be noted the definition of Liter changed in 1903 so it might complicate any Maths they plan to use if they are older gentlemen so it could lead to disaster.

It could be melted ice water which is a common issue in snow/ice archeology because just your digging and moving can lead to a lot of water and slush, but as long as you can remove it quicker than you produce it you can do okay and in an arctic environment the dogs could do that without worry.


I wonder...could his handwriting be so crap as he is wearing gloves or jut so cold he is losing motor function, I mean if this is rushed he may have forgotten decent gloves (a common mistake at this time) and thus we might find he comes back with a couple less fingers than he left with thus the appalling handwriting.

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I feel a letter coming on ..

lets do this.. I have a few hours "WHATS IN THE GODDAMNED TOMB??? Flaming Nutter < jane goes for ride in mean time
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Sure, I could use the exercise... (and have also been waiting impatiently for Tuesday) Flaming Nutter

Wildass guesses:

frozen mammoth rhino thingy
OIL
Stargate
alien wreck

Yeah, pretty thin over here. I haven't had my coffee yet. Coffee
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its prolly worth mentioning the black ivory could be anything in a tomb, it could even be something as simple as a black flint arrow head



(studied archaeology)

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So you've seen the phrase "black ivory" in this context before? My google-fu is lacking.

So, it's Tuesday night.................. *drums fingers impatiently*
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