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Should I give HM another chance? 30-50 killed it for me.
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TheJoker
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Marble Hornets wrote:
If you're skipping scenes, Marble Hornets isn't for you. I'd say if you're that bored, just stop watching.

Keep in mind season 1's production quality is significantly lower than season 2 or 3, and it doesn't really pick up until entry 23 or so

"but why should i watch 24 entries before it gets good, thats a waste of time" - lots of shows that end up great have horrible first and/or second seasons (six feet under, for example)

But if you still want to watch it and just have no problem skipping scenes, I'd say just watch the introduction + entry 23, and then skip straigh to entry 26. Season 2 (entries 27-52) is miles better than 1, and feels more like a standalone movie in a way. Lots of entries from season 1 can be skipped and you can still get a full understanding of what's going on.

And again, many of those 24 entries are very short, far shorter than the standard episodes we get nowadays. I actually think the plot picked up around #17, though you could still skip 21 and most of 22 except the ending if you wanted to and not miss too much.

Not to suggest I encourage skipping the first 16 entries, they are worth watching for scare factor and setting up characters and details for later.

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TheOperator
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At the least, give Entries 51 and 52 a try, as others have pointed out. They are important and also two of the best entries in the series. You might want to drop it if you're still completely disinterested after that.

Having said that, I actually think Season 3 is a lot better in terms of interesting character development than Season 2, plus doesn't have a lot of the slowness of Season 2 with the hotel entries and waiting around in the car. There are complaints that a certain location ends up a tad stale in Season 3 but I don't really agree, given it is a very interesting and creepy-looking location. All that does seem like an uncommon opinion around here though.

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ThinSuit
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If 30-50 made you stop, don't watch the rest.

I basicly watch MH to know what is the ark now that's all
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Marble Hornets
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Season 3 is mostly about Tim, the guy who Jay interviews in entry 15.

The best part of s3 imo is the breakdown of Tim's realization of things. If you want a summary of this, read below, but there are spoilers

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Tim is revealed as the masked man in entry 35. He claims that he doesn't remember his actions as the masked man, and that he sometimes blacks out and wakes up with chunks of time missing (implying his actions as the masked man filled those gaps)

We find Tim's medical records that show that he was going through the same symptoms we see Alex go through in the 2006 footage, but way back when he was a kid. Tim comes to the conclusion that he is responsible for what happened to Alex, and that he was the one who brought The Operator around to the film set where Alex was targeted as his next victim.

We find footage of him being assaulted by Alex during location scouting for the film, and it's implied that Alex is leaving his unconcious body for The Operator to have his way. Another masked figure saves Tim from Alex a few times, and allows Tim to get his revenge. The interesting part about these videos is that in present day, Tim is watching them, and finding out what happened to him in the gaps.

He hates Jay at first for not telling him, but soon warms up to Jay and starts to help in his investigation.

All of that was really cool to me. Jay and Alex found out what happened to them because they filmed themselves, but Tim never knew what happened to him because he didn't. It's implied Alex only found out because he started filming things (as operator encounters leaves your memory wiped, meaning there's no reason to investigate anything as nothing seems wrong).


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Grumplestiltskin
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I've stayed out of this thread because it was annoying me for a reason I couldn't quite pin down. But I think I've figured it out.

No offense to the OP -- you are entitled to like or not like whatever you want, to watch or not watch or half-watch whatever you want. But don't ask me to sell MH to you.

I got to this series really, really late -- 65 entries were up by the time I'd found it, and the first time, I watched all 65 of those in a one-sitting binge. Then I took a day off to catch up on sleep, and then did the whole megillah again. I'd say it's reasonable to call me obsessed.

Do I like every single thing that happens in the series? No. But I like enough things that I continue to watch (though it has been difficult to adjust to having to wait for entries... and wait and wait) even when an entry is (in my opinion) less than stellar and I have the urge to shout at the screen in impatience.

But dude, this is a decision only you can make for yourself. Asking for the opinions of others really isn't gonna help you.

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Lithp
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He said he was a fan of Season 1.

Anyway, I skipped several "episodes" of EverymanHYBRID, so I don't think it's necessarily true that you can't skip content. I do not regret having skipped them in the first place, only that I didn't go back to them sooner.

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Geneaux486
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Lithp wrote:
He said he was a fan of Season 1.

Anyway, I skipped several "episodes" of EverymanHYBRID, so I don't think it's necessarily true that you can't skip content. I do not regret having skipped them in the first place, only that I didn't go back to them sooner.


Heh, I watched them all in order and still thought I had skipped a bunch. Hadn't known at the time that so much info came from twitter, livestreams, etc.

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twistedpuppet
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
He said he was a fan of Season 1.

Anyway, I skipped several "episodes" of EverymanHYBRID, so I don't think it's necessarily true that you can't skip content. I do not regret having skipped them in the first place, only that I didn't go back to them sooner.


Heh, I watched them all in order and still thought I had skipped a bunch. Hadn't known at the time that so much info came from twitter, livestreams, etc.


That's why I like Marble Hornets. I can watch just the main channel and get all the story. Smile

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Lithp
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
He said he was a fan of Season 1.

Anyway, I skipped several "episodes" of EverymanHYBRID, so I don't think it's necessarily true that you can't skip content. I do not regret having skipped them in the first place, only that I didn't go back to them sooner.


Heh, I watched them all in order and still thought I had skipped a bunch. Hadn't known at the time that so much info came from twitter, livestreams, etc.


So true. I did consider dropping EMH until I found the timeline. After that, I don't think it's really that hard to follow at all. Marble Hornets is completely lost to me for 2 main reasons:

1. The Entries do not have names. How the shit am I supposed to remember what happened in "Entry 27," unless I've seen it a dozen times?

2. The murky timeline. Pretty much anything could have happened just about at any point.

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Geneaux486
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Lithp wrote:
So true. I did consider dropping EMH until I found the timeline. After that, I don't think it's really that hard to follow at all. Marble Hornets is completely lost to me for 2 main reasons:

1. The Entries do not have names. How the shit am I supposed to remember what happened in "Entry 27," unless I've seen it a dozen times?

2. The murky timeline. Pretty much anything could have happened just about at any point.


Once I watched 'em with the wiki open in a separate tab, everything was alright.

Even so, the titles of EMH videos aren't much more specific. I can tell by looking that "slushpops and surprises" can contain slushpops and literally anything I don't expect.

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Lithp
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I don't know about you, but it helps me just to have names to pin things to.

I know that WAKE UP is about Evan coming to. Other things that happen around this time are him deciding to go after the Rake, & finding out what happened. This was the conclusion of a major story arc involving several of the characters going missing. It does not end well.

I know that The Body is about them finding that body. Other things that happen around this time are when they first encounter the Rake, & when they find the note addressed to Lennie.

I know that Joke's Over is when Slenderman officially appears. Other things that happen around this time include the first time the bags of ichor are found, & the first hint that something wasn't altogether right with Evan. They were trying to do a request for hiking tips, & put on a front of normalcy after several Slenderman sightings.

Et cetera, ad nauseum, deja vu, chain of memories, & all that jazz.

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Marble Hornets
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My beef with EMH isn't even that the story is all over the place. It's that there's SO MUCH not shown in the entries that ties key points together, and they jump the shark entirely too often. The entries that we can assume the main character (vinny) uploads sometimes has cuts in them from things other people filmed, and it just doesn't make sense why they'd be on that camera in the middle of all that footage.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Vinny goes to another dimension? Fine. Proxy takes over the redneck dude? Fine.

But now you're going to tell me that nothing we saw on camera that the redneck filmed actually happened? And that the proxy just up and leaves the dude out of nowhere? (that's how I interpreted the last entry, at least) - that's weak



My other main criticism is that they try to fit humor into it entirely too often, and it just doesn't work. To me, it lowers the quality of the project as a whole.

The series does have amazing moments though. The redneck in the woods with all the bladed weapons waiting for the rake was awesome. The first time we see the rake was also a great moment.

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Lithp
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It's that there's SO MUCH not shown in the entries that ties key points together,


Spilled milk. One really has to read the background reports to follow the story. At this point, the hour where they could have fixed this has long passed, they clearly didn't want to accommodate people who weren't reading the documents.

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and they jump the shark entirely too often.


You can only jump the shark once.

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The entries that we can assume the main character (vinny) uploads sometimes has cuts in them from things other people filmed, and it just doesn't make sense why they'd be on that camera in the middle of all that footage.


The Hidden Footage is just part of the mystery.

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(that's how I interpreted the last entry, at least)


That first part is not even close to what happened, how did you get that?

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My other main criticism is that they try to fit humor into it entirely too often, and it just doesn't work. To me, it lowers the quality of the project as a whole.


It is definitely a different tone from Marble Hornets.

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The redneck in the woods with all the bladed weapons waiting for the rake was awesome.


Shame we didn't get to see the actual thing.

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You guys talking about EMH really makes me want to start watching it.

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Geneaux486
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Ztakk wrote:
You guys talking about EMH really makes me want to start watching it.


Do it, man. I'd recommend keeping the wiki page for each episode up as you watch it, that way you'll get any information that isn't in the actual videos as you go.

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