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If you were Jay right now, what would you do?
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Ztakk
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abcetc wrote:

'Cause I feel like it.

I also don't see why it's "baseless speculation" since I'm providing reasons why I think we can infer that the police probably knew about the cast members' disappearances.

In response to this, if they were taken by TO, it's 100% possible TO just removed the memories of their friends and family or whatever. My other response to this is, and I know it'll sound VERY out there and have a ton of problems, but as far as I'm concerned, if they (the friends and family of the disappeared characters) aren't shown or mentioned in the series they might as well not exist.

As for what I'd do in Jay's situation, I would have unmasked Tim/Masky the first time I saw him when he was seizing. Could have nipped a lot of things in the butt.

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:42 pm

Lithp
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Geneaux486 wrote:

Lithp wrote:

Kind of one of those plotlines I've seen too much of. Also, it is contradicted by Tim & Jay having all of these memories bout Brian, Alex, Seth, Sarah, etc.

"Since Jessica was capture by the Operator and taken back to the Soul Society to stand trial, it seems I'm the only one who remembers she existed in the first place. I'm going to go to an abandoned hospital to investigate this further." -Entry 73

Go home, Jay. You're drunk. And you read too much manga.

But honestly, I wasn't even thinking of that one. I thought of Chain of Memories, John Dies At The End, Dissidia...&, once again, I am not one to talk.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:27 am

ReverendJ
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Man...if Jay figures out all the people tweeting him are not in his reality his brain might melt.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:59 pm

Kraehtot
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Serum wrote:

Hazman wrote:

Kraehtot wrote:

The Condor wrote:

Move to Canada.

Canada is not far enough... I'd move to Oceania!

Yus, Oceania, you didn't call it Australasia. New Zealand is the best!

Great, we can drive there in the Fordillac!

He had money to be living in hotels for several years and not for buying a plane ticket?

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TheJoker
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ReverendJ wrote:

Man...if Jay figures out all the people tweeting him are not in his reality his brain might melt.

Forget that. Imagine if he found this place, where we criticize him for not progressing the story enough and "bad acting" (and regularly call him a moron), complain about "plot holes" and the release schedule and the fact that TO doesn't move anymore (which Jay is probably thankful for), host a thread dedicated to Tim worship, etc. etc.

Also, only partially on-topic and most likely discussed before, but do you guys think Jay probably had, you know, friends and family when the series started? People who he could turn to for help but chooses not to because he doesn't want to get them involved? Obviously it's concerning that no one seemed to notice Brian and such going missing, but did anyone notice Jay taking off and cutting off contact with everyone?

And has anyone ever asked him about this on Twitter? I wonder if he'd respond...

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:48 pm

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TheJoker wrote:

Also, only partially on-topic and most likely discussed before, but do you guys think Jay probably had, you know, friends and family when the series started? People who he could turn to for help but chooses not to because he doesn't want to get them involved? Obviously it's concerning that no one seemed to notice Brian and such going missing, but did anyone notice Jay taking off and cutting off contact with everyone?

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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:54 pm

Kraehtot
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TheJoker wrote:

ReverendJ wrote:

Man...if Jay figures out all the people tweeting him are not in his reality his brain might melt.

If I remember correctly, at the beginnings of the series he was asked if he had any person to go with him to the abandoned house or something like that, and questions about if he had someone, in general. But he responded with "No, I am alone".

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TheJoker
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Kraehtot wrote:

TheJoker wrote:

ReverendJ wrote:

Man...if Jay figures out all the people tweeting him are not in his reality his brain might melt.

I'm pretty sure that question was much later in the series, like in Season 3, which would mean well after he would have cut off contact with anyone.

Excuse me a moment... Ah, yes, here we are. https://twitter.com/marblehornets/status/217355652668981249

Right after Tim found out the truth and stormed off. It was when he was going to the maintenance tunnel in the hospital.

(Unless of course there's another instance you refer to? I don't recall any other time he said such a thing, though.)

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:53 pm

Kraehtot
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Oh, well, it is perfectly probable that I changed the facts in my mind. There are just too many twits.
Sorry, then!

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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:39 am

Oscar Langley
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"Yesterday I got a call from someone I know telling me to turn on the news."
-Entry 25

I think this is the only time Jay's mentioned someone who wasn't a character and just ~~one of his friends~~ someone he knows.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:35 pm

Geneaux486
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Oscar Langley wrote:

I think this is the only time Jay's mentioned someone who wasn't a character and just ~~one of his friends~~ someone he knows.

Well he did technically know totheark at the time, so...

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:41 pm

TheJoker
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Geneaux486 wrote:

Oscar Langley wrote:

I think this is the only time Jay's mentioned someone who wasn't a character and just ~~one of his friends~~ someone he knows.

Well he did technically know totheark at the time, so...

But he didn't know who it was, so he probably would have described it as "an anonymous caller" or "someone I don't know" or "a mysterious deep-voiced person who breathes funny" ~~or Batman~~ or something like that, even if he could guess that the caller was TTA.

In any case, I think he may have had some semblance of a life for a good deal of Season 1 outside of the tapes, and if he cut off contact with everyone it was probably around when he went searching for Alex. But thanks for reminding me of that incident, that helps a little.

Also, I was just reminded of the Christmas tweet he made once, where he said something about it being a "lonely holiday", implying that it isn't usually like that for him. So I guess that also sorta supports that he wasn't some sort of hermit pre-MH.

Just the same, might someone with a Twitter try asking him about his pre-MH life on the off chance he actually responds?

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:48 pm

ALEXGORDON
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I'd burn all the tapes and leave town

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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:52 pm

ToTheFading
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DJay32 wrote:

With regards to calling the police and missing persons reports, I think we actually have been given something to suggest that wouldn't work: Jay looking into the bearded stranger of Entry 49 and finding no records whatsoever.

Yes, it's more than possible that there are logical reasons why Jay couldn't find anything. But at the same time, I think this detail was included in the story to maybe imply other characters' disappearances may have been covered up as well.

With regards to this whole argument, is it at all possible to make a connection here with Tim's documents that had been mostly redacted? I mean, some one somewhere must know something of Tim because he has had jobs (if we're believing him), and the documents were likely changed by hoody/TTA, yet it still seems a little too similar. The difference here being that the documents exist, and Tim is still a confirmed player - the other characters as far as we are aware, are "gone", like the aforementioned bearded stranger and his records.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:30 am

TheJoker
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ToTheFading wrote:

DJay32 wrote:

Not sure what you're saying, so sorry if I'm just parroting you, but Tim survived whatever TO did to him, and we don't know how or whether that was at all TO's intention. Possibly the reason people like Sarah, Seth and Beardy seem to have been forgotten is because they didn't escape like Tim and Jay did.

I mean, Jay, prior to watching the tapes, never directly identifies anyone other than Alex involved in MH, so maybe he had a vague memory that there were other people in the cast, not recalling who they specifically were and not realizing the reason for this is that they've been wiped from his memories. Then, once he starts going through the tapes, he starts to remember who they were, but since he never knew them too well he doesn't think too much of having forgotten who they were until now. Similar deal with Tim, who remembers other people were involved with MH but not who all of them were before watching the videos.

There's a problem with this theory, though- Tim does mention Brian by name in the interview before he rewatched any videos. Which renders the whole thing null and void.

Unless Brian survived as well.

So if Brian is Hoody, then it's possible that TO did erase his other victims from existence, except for proof of who they were on tape. Which fits with the fact that the tape of Beardy still existed, but no other record did.

I don't know, I still think it could just be that Jay and Tim and Alex still remember everyone who's gone because of their TO-exposure or they're "special" or something like that, but there's another possibility right there. Of course, all of this is still practically baseless speculation except for the fact that TO probably does have such a power and it (just based on Law of Conservation of Detail) will probably become plot-relevant eventually.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:26 pm

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