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If you were Jay right now, what would you do?
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Camero
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Ok, putting aside the issue of the police(since, even if they become involved, Jay can't exactly sit on his hands), here are all of my various plans and schemes.

Gather information on Amy

We now know that Alex, for some reason, wanted to hide his relationship with Amy, or at least the early part of it. Thus, I'd try and find out why. To start, I contact Tim and ask if he knows anything about Amy or knows of any older friends of Alex. Try to get any information at all -- the school she was going to, her last name, names of friends besides Jessica. The idea here is not to track Amy down -- there's a decent chance she's "gone".

However, the information Alex wanted to conceal may not have died with her, even if she is gone. So, I aim to use this information to find out where she has lived. I'm particularly interested in finding the house they lived in when Slendy attacked. She found a camera in the closet there--there might still be tapes there. I'd also scour the video of that encounter to see if I can get any clues at all about where the place is located.

Allying with Hoody

Crazy as he might be, it's high time Jay figured out who the heck Hoody is, and what he knows. First thing's first--Tim and I get ourselves some weapons. Protecting Tim's sanity is big, and I'm not willing to let Hoody compromise that, and there's no way of knowing how he'll react. I attempt to contact him through the totheark channel and set up a meeting, and Tim comes too. If at possible, this stays private. However, if he doesn't respond to private contact, there is a third option...

Screw it, it's showdown time

Tim and I scout our current area, looking for any indoor meeting place with a parking lot. We need to find an ambush point both in the parking lot and in the building itself. I post a video on youtube, adressed to Hoody, saying that our only option for taking Alex down is to work together. I ask to meet Hoody inside this building at an appointed time. The hope is that my previous stupidity in this series will cause both Alex and Hoody to take me at my word on this.

Several hours before this, Tim and I arrive and set up an ambush. Our cars are hidden and we walk. We got guns. Tim hides in the parking lot, hoping to catch Alex by surprise if he drives in. I hide in the building and aim to either ambush Alex if he gets past Hoody, or to scope Hoody out before meeting him(see if he has a weapon, etc.) Remember, the idea is to get Hoody on our side, so I don't pull the gun unless necessary with him. Alex, however, is to be caught.

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ToTheFading
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TheJoker wrote:
ToTheFading wrote:
DJay32 wrote:
With regards to calling the police and missing persons reports, I think we actually have been given something to suggest that wouldn't work: Jay looking into the bearded stranger of Entry 49 and finding no records whatsoever.

Yes, it's more than possible that there are logical reasons why Jay couldn't find anything. But at the same time, I think this detail was included in the story to maybe imply other characters' disappearances may have been covered up as well.


With regards to this whole argument, is it at all possible to make a connection here with Tim's documents that had been mostly redacted? I mean, some one somewhere must know something of Tim because he has had jobs (if we're believing him), and the documents were likely changed by hoody/TTA, yet it still seems a little too similar. The difference here being that the documents exist, and Tim is still a confirmed player - the other characters as far as we are aware, are "gone", like the aforementioned bearded stranger and his records.

Not sure what you're saying, so sorry if I'm just parroting you, but Tim survived whatever TO did to him, and we don't know how or whether that was at all TO's intention. Possibly the reason people like Sarah, Seth and Beardy seem to have been forgotten is because they didn't escape like Tim and Jay did.

I mean, Jay, prior to watching the tapes, never directly identifies anyone other than Alex involved in MH, so maybe he had a vague memory that there were other people in the cast, not recalling who they specifically were and not realizing the reason for this is that they've been wiped from his memories. Then, once he starts going through the tapes, he starts to remember who they were, but since he never knew them too well he doesn't think too much of having forgotten who they were until now. Similar deal with Tim, who remembers other people were involved with MH but not who all of them were before watching the videos.

There's a problem with this theory, though- Tim does mention Brian by name in the interview before he rewatched any videos. Which renders the whole thing null and void.

Unless Brian survived as well.

So if Brian is Hoody, then it's possible that TO did erase his other victims from existence, except for proof of who they were on tape. Which fits with the fact that the tape of Beardy still existed, but no other record did.

I don't know, I still think it could just be that Jay and Tim and Alex still remember everyone who's gone because of their TO-exposure or they're "special" or something like that, but there's another possibility right there. Of course, all of this is still practically baseless speculation except for the fact that TO probably does have such a power and it (just based on Law of Conservation of Detail) will probably become plot-relevant eventually.


That's quite alright, any debate or elaboration is welcome. I wasn't really suggesting a theory here, I was just saying I find it interesting that the guy Alex killed had no records when Jay looked (as far as I understand, as I don't follow the twitter closely, and perhaps should), and we've got an actual example of a main character whose records have been partially removed. Potential for mountains of out molehills here, but I thought it worth mentioning for comparison with other such examples and events Smile

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TheJoker
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ToTheFading wrote:
TheJoker wrote:
ToTheFading wrote:
DJay32 wrote:
With regards to calling the police and missing persons reports, I think we actually have been given something to suggest that wouldn't work: Jay looking into the bearded stranger of Entry 49 and finding no records whatsoever.

Yes, it's more than possible that there are logical reasons why Jay couldn't find anything. But at the same time, I think this detail was included in the story to maybe imply other characters' disappearances may have been covered up as well.


With regards to this whole argument, is it at all possible to make a connection here with Tim's documents that had been mostly redacted? I mean, some one somewhere must know something of Tim because he has had jobs (if we're believing him), and the documents were likely changed by hoody/TTA, yet it still seems a little too similar. The difference here being that the documents exist, and Tim is still a confirmed player - the other characters as far as we are aware, are "gone", like the aforementioned bearded stranger and his records.

Not sure what you're saying, so sorry if I'm just parroting you, but Tim survived whatever TO did to him, and we don't know how or whether that was at all TO's intention. Possibly the reason people like Sarah, Seth and Beardy seem to have been forgotten is because they didn't escape like Tim and Jay did.

I mean, Jay, prior to watching the tapes, never directly identifies anyone other than Alex involved in MH, so maybe he had a vague memory that there were other people in the cast, not recalling who they specifically were and not realizing the reason for this is that they've been wiped from his memories. Then, once he starts going through the tapes, he starts to remember who they were, but since he never knew them too well he doesn't think too much of having forgotten who they were until now. Similar deal with Tim, who remembers other people were involved with MH but not who all of them were before watching the videos.

There's a problem with this theory, though- Tim does mention Brian by name in the interview before he rewatched any videos. Which renders the whole thing null and void.

Unless Brian survived as well.

So if Brian is Hoody, then it's possible that TO did erase his other victims from existence, except for proof of who they were on tape. Which fits with the fact that the tape of Beardy still existed, but no other record did.

I don't know, I still think it could just be that Jay and Tim and Alex still remember everyone who's gone because of their TO-exposure or they're "special" or something like that, but there's another possibility right there. Of course, all of this is still practically baseless speculation except for the fact that TO probably does have such a power and it (just based on Law of Conservation of Detail) will probably become plot-relevant eventually.


That's quite alright, any debate or elaboration is welcome. I wasn't really suggesting a theory here, I was just saying I find it interesting that the guy Alex killed had no records when Jay looked (as far as I understand, as I don't follow the twitter closely, and perhaps should), and we've got an actual example of a main character whose records have been partially removed. Potential for mountains of out molehills here, but I thought it worth mentioning for comparison with other such examples and events Smile

Ah, I see. Well, I suppose if we were to build from that concept, we might come to some idea of why no friends or family have gone looking for Jay or Tim- maybe they've been partially forgotten themselves.

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TheOperator
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Search for clues at the hotel Jessica was staying in. It doesn't really go against the agreement with Tim to "deal with the immediate threat", as if the immediate threat is Hoody, then Entry #67's already shown that they're more of an ally than a dangerous foe. Alex is also already probably on his way to College town, if he hasn't arrived by now, as Jay didn't exactly keep his location secret. It's actually safer to go back to the Rosswood area.

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TheJoker
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TheOperator wrote:
Search for clues at the hotel Jessica was staying in. It doesn't really go against the agreement with Tim to "deal with the immediate threat", as if the immediate threat is Hoody, then Entry #67's already shown that they're more of an ally than a dangerous foe. Alex is also already probably on his way to College town, if he hasn't arrived by now, as Jay didn't exactly keep his location secret. It's actually safer to go back to the Rosswood area.

Yeah, the unspoilery screenshot for 72 doesn't really suggest the Hotel, but I think they'll have to at least briefly revisit it at some point, and probably before Rosswood (just based on my suspicion that the final confrontation will occur there and they won't return until then). Wasn't there a second safe (in Jessica's room) that they never opened?

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Beidah
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If I were Jay, I'd be a lot more focused on finding Jessica. As of now, she seems the most innocent in this, and we can't be sure that's she is still alive. A TTA video seemed to indicate she was, but that was posted months ago.

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TheSupremeFace
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Camero wrote:
Ok, putting aside the issue of the police(since, even if they become involved, Jay can't exactly sit on his hands), here are all of my various plans and schemes.

Gather information on Amy

We now know that Alex, for some reason, wanted to hide his relationship with Amy, or at least the early part of it. Thus, I'd try and find out why. To start, I contact Tim and ask if he knows anything about Amy or knows of any older friends of Alex. Try to get any information at all -- the school she was going to, her last name, names of friends besides Jessica. The idea here is not to track Amy down -- there's a decent chance she's "gone".

However, the information Alex wanted to conceal may not have died with her, even if she is gone. So, I aim to use this information to find out where she has lived. I'm particularly interested in finding the house they lived in when Slendy attacked. She found a camera in the closet there--there might still be tapes there. I'd also scour the video of that encounter to see if I can get any clues at all about where the place is located.

Allying with Hoody

Crazy as he might be, it's high time Jay figured out who the heck Hoody is, and what he knows. First thing's first--Tim and I get ourselves some weapons. Protecting Tim's sanity is big, and I'm not willing to let Hoody compromise that, and there's no way of knowing how he'll react. I attempt to contact him through the totheark channel and set up a meeting, and Tim comes too. If at possible, this stays private. However, if he doesn't respond to private contact, there is a third option...

Screw it, it's showdown time

Tim and I scout our current area, looking for any indoor meeting place with a parking lot. We need to find an ambush point both in the parking lot and in the building itself. I post a video on youtube, adressed to Hoody, saying that our only option for taking Alex down is to work together. I ask to meet Hoody inside this building at an appointed time. The hope is that my previous stupidity in this series will cause both Alex and Hoody to take me at my word on this.

Several hours before this, Tim and I arrive and set up an ambush. Our cars are hidden and we walk. We got guns. Tim hides in the parking lot, hoping to catch Alex by surprise if he drives in. I hide in the building and aim to either ambush Alex if he gets past Hoody, or to scope Hoody out before meeting him(see if he has a weapon, etc.) Remember, the idea is to get Hoody on our side, so I don't pull the gun unless necessary with him. Alex, however, is to be caught.


Well if Alex DOES show up, we have to make sure there aren't any cameras. It seems that TO shows up or gets "summoned" through that technology. Otherwise Alex is dangerous just because of the Tall business man.

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No offense, SupremeFace, but all I can think of when I see your recent posts is this... Wink

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TheSupremeFace wrote:
Camero wrote:
Ok, putting aside the issue of the police(since, even if they become involved, Jay can't exactly sit on his hands), here are all of my various plans and schemes.

Gather information on Amy

We now know that Alex, for some reason, wanted to hide his relationship with Amy, or at least the early part of it. Thus, I'd try and find out why. To start, I contact Tim and ask if he knows anything about Amy or knows of any older friends of Alex. Try to get any information at all -- the school she was going to, her last name, names of friends besides Jessica. The idea here is not to track Amy down -- there's a decent chance she's "gone".

However, the information Alex wanted to conceal may not have died with her, even if she is gone. So, I aim to use this information to find out where she has lived. I'm particularly interested in finding the house they lived in when Slendy attacked. She found a camera in the closet there--there might still be tapes there. I'd also scour the video of that encounter to see if I can get any clues at all about where the place is located.

Allying with Hoody

Crazy as he might be, it's high time Jay figured out who the heck Hoody is, and what he knows. First thing's first--Tim and I get ourselves some weapons. Protecting Tim's sanity is big, and I'm not willing to let Hoody compromise that, and there's no way of knowing how he'll react. I attempt to contact him through the totheark channel and set up a meeting, and Tim comes too. If at possible, this stays private. However, if he doesn't respond to private contact, there is a third option...

Screw it, it's showdown time

Tim and I scout our current area, looking for any indoor meeting place with a parking lot. We need to find an ambush point both in the parking lot and in the building itself. I post a video on youtube, adressed to Hoody, saying that our only option for taking Alex down is to work together. I ask to meet Hoody inside this building at an appointed time. The hope is that my previous stupidity in this series will cause both Alex and Hoody to take me at my word on this.

Several hours before this, Tim and I arrive and set up an ambush. Our cars are hidden and we walk. We got guns. Tim hides in the parking lot, hoping to catch Alex by surprise if he drives in. I hide in the building and aim to either ambush Alex if he gets past Hoody, or to scope Hoody out before meeting him(see if he has a weapon, etc.) Remember, the idea is to get Hoody on our side, so I don't pull the gun unless necessary with him. Alex, however, is to be caught.


Well if Alex DOES show up, we have to make sure there aren't any cameras. It seems that TO shows up or gets "summoned" through that technology. Otherwise Alex is dangerous just because of the Tall business man.

I don't know, I'd say that a guy with a gun and a habit of braining people with blocks of cement is pretty dangerous even without the supernatural entity backing him up.

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michaelO2000 wrote:
Get Tim, get the camera and some weapons, drive back to Roswood Park, find and capture Alex, beat him up until he tells us what he knows (,his motivation, the identity of Hoody, ect.) and record it, upload it, and ask everyone what we should do next.


Well, as creator of this thread, I'd like to nominate this as my favorite course of action. And it would be interesting to see Jay resort to some rather unorthodox things and become more ruthless, like Alex has.

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Grumplestiltskin wrote:
No offense, SupremeFace, but all I can think of when I see your recent posts is this... Wink


I don't see that as offensive, the wiki said it shows authority Razz . But I've always used bolded green for my text in ANY forum

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TheSupremeFace wrote:
Grumplestiltskin wrote:
No offense, SupremeFace, but all I can think of when I see your recent posts is this... Wink


I don't see that as offensive, the wiki said it shows authority Razz . But I've always used bolded green for my text in ANY forum


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