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Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?
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Jordan
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Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?

Hey everyone.

So, why do you think The Operator visited Tim as a child?

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Re: Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?

Jordan wrote:
Hey everyone.

So, why do you think The Operator visited Tim as a child?


My theory is Tim is responsible for unleashing TO on the world or at least on the people involved in MH.

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Re: Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?

Jordan wrote:
Hey everyone.

So, why do you think The Operator visited Tim as a child?


To be BEST friends.

Also, torture.

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So he could tell TO to merge this thread with the Off-topic thread...wait

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Could he be its offspring?

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Did anyone get an abusive vibe off Tim's Mother's comments in entry #60.5?

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Jordan wrote:
Did anyone get an abusive vibe off Tim's Mother's comments in entry #60.5?


History of falls, ran away from home, family uncooperative, said he didn't feel safe at home and then changed his answer to say that he did. I didn't notice it before but I think your right. This would also give Tim a motive to bring TO into the world. To make his abusive mother go away.

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gennerx wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Did anyone get an abusive vibe off Tim's Mother's comments in entry #60.5?


History of falls, said he didn't feel safe at home and then changed his answer to say that he did. I didn't notice it before but I think your right. This would also give Tim a motive to bring TO into the world. To make his abusive mother go away.


He first said he was safe, and then changed it to not being safe.

First answers

Safe: Yes
Scared of anyne: Yes

Second answers

Safe: No
Scared of anyone: No

Sure, the "scared of anyone" part might indicate possible abuse and a change of heart when it comes to admitting it (thinking his mother might get angry and abuse him more might've caused him to change that answer) - but at the same time it's heavily contradictive to the question about being safe in his home, which he also changed from yes to no. Almost showing that he was first scared of admitting being unsafe, and then was willing to admit it. It really doesn't make much sense when connected.

The idea of Tim creating/summoning TO to keep him safe from his mother is interesting but it doesn't really explain why this saviour would turn on him and become this crazy entity that stalks him and his friends. History of abuse is possible, but it hasn't been hinted to after Entry #60.5 (if I recall correctly) and I think it would have if it was to become a major plot point / answer to the questions.

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Wondertje wrote:
gennerx wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Did anyone get an abusive vibe off Tim's Mother's comments in entry #60.5?


History of falls, said he didn't feel safe at home and then changed his answer to say that he did. I didn't notice it before but I think your right. This would also give Tim a motive to bring TO into the world. To make his abusive mother go away.


He first said he was safe, and then changed it to not being safe.

First answers

Safe: Yes
Scared of anyne: Yes

Second answers

Safe: No
Scared of anyone: No

Sure, the "scared of anyone" part might indicate possible abuse and a change of heart when it comes to admitting it (thinking his mother might get angry and abuse him more might've caused him to change that answer) - but at the same time it's heavily contradictive to the question about being safe in his home, which he also changed from yes to no. Almost showing that he was first scared of admitting being unsafe, and then was willing to admit it. It really doesn't make much sense when connected.

The idea of Tim creating/summoning TO to keep him safe from his mother is interesting but it doesn't really explain why this saviour would turn on him and become this crazy entity that stalks him and his friends. History of abuse is possible, but it hasn't been hinted to after Entry #60.5 (if I recall correctly) and I think it would have if it was to become a major plot point / answer to the questions.


Having saved Tim from one bad person he continues to make all bad people go away. I always though TO had a twisted sense of justice.

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But Brian (starting from the beginning) was one of Tim's first and closest friends, like he told Jay in one of the latest entries. It was pretty much the first time he felt normal, he went to school and he got a friend. Why would TO - even with a twisted sense of justice - want to ruin that? Is it some kind of jealousy drama where TO feels like he should be Tim's only friend?

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Wondertje wrote:
But Brian (starting from the beginning) was one of Tim's first and closest friends, like he told Jay in one of the latest entries. It was pretty much the first time he felt normal, he went to school and he got a friend. Why would TO - even with a twisted sense of justice - want to ruin that? Is it some kind of jealousy drama where TO feels like he should be Tim's only friend?


Because he realized Tim isn't a good person either. He's a liar after all, or maybe he's just pure evil and used Tim's situation to get to our world.

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The last statement there is by far the easiest one to believe in this case. I really doubt TO has anything good left in him, even if it was there to begin with. So him just using Tim to get here is a very interesting theory. Perhaps it's generally how he does it, uses children and their imagination/gullability to get them to create/summon him - that'd be really horrific and quite frankly terrifying if that was the case.

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Wondertje wrote:
The last statement there is by far the easiest one to believe in this case. I really doubt TO has anything good left in him, even if it was there to begin with. So him just using Tim to get here is a very interesting theory. Perhaps it's generally how he does it, uses children and their imagination/gullability to get them to create/summon him - that'd be really horrific and quite frankly terrifying if that was the case.


Maybe summoned isn't the right word. I don't see young Tim being an occultist. Maybe it's as simple as Tim helping him down from a tree in Rosswood when he ran away.

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Well, when I say created/summoned I attribute it as; creating = the tulpa effect, Tim imagined TO and TO became real whereas summoning = Tim read/heard about TO (or something similar) and "prayed" for it to come save him, and TO showed up. I too doubt he was an occultist Razz

As for Tim helping him down from a tree; I don't think that the story Alex told was that relevant to TO's history.

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In fact, I'm quite sure Troseph already confirmed that Alex's story wasn't intended as a valid background story to TO.


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Why did the operator visit Tim as a child? My theory on this seems to be a "wrong place, wrong time" ordeal. Similar to how Alex first came into the operator's control. I don't really know how much of any/if all of you follow Tribe twelve but there is a story there of an old man on the allied forces who saw TO going after a nazi soldier. regardless I picture Tim's story as a simple "wrong place, wrong time", but the bigger question could be asked is, why did he come back to Tim? I mean Tim was institutionalized and had his pills and all, it all seemed to be going great for him until this "movie" came into place. What made the operator come back?!? Jetpack

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