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TRIBETWELVE: SEASON TWO
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zbeeblebrox
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While that's possible, it would be weird for HABIT to tell someone one thing, then turn around and try to talk them out of it. He's many things, but inconsistent is not one of them.

It's Jeff or it's not Jeff, but I doubt it's HABIT.

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danutzzz
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Hello, long time lurker around here Very Happy

I've attached some pics of Noah's stalker

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Wondertje
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zbeeblebrox wrote:
No no: HABIT says Noah shouldn't trust anyone but himself. That's practically the same as saying "you SHOULD trust everyone except yourself' considering the source.


Granted English isn't my first language but.. what?

* If I tell you "You shouldn't do anything but [x]", it means you should do nothing except [x] = you should only do [x].

* So "You shouldn't trust anyone but yourself" mean that you should trust no-one except yourself = you should only trust yourself.

I don't really see how it can be interpreted as HABIT telling Noah to trust everyone except himself - I really don't Shocked

Maybe I misunderstood you?

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knifebladepresents
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Basically, if HABIT tells you to do something, do the opposite

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Carmen
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Wondertje wrote:
Granted English isn't my first language but.. what?

* If I tell you "You shouldn't do anything but [x]", it means you should do nothing except [x] = you should only do [x].

* So "You shouldn't trust anyone but yourself" mean that you should trust no-one except yourself = you should only trust yourself.

I don't really see how it can be interpreted as HABIT telling Noah to trust everyone except himself - I really don't Shocked

Maybe I misunderstood you?


No, you got it right. It's just that HABIT's a sociopathic evil thing, so Noah shouldn't trust anything it says.

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Wondertje
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Oh, like that! *feels a bit stupid now* Embarassed - I really haven't watched enough EMH to understand HABIT yet. Seems like I really need to get my catching up done if I want to get a continued understanding of TT.

But then, doesn't that mean Noah should in fact kill himself? HABIT tells Noah to trust only himself, this means Noah should do the opposite and trust everyone except himself. That by extension means Noah should trust Jeff, and Jeff told him that the only way was for Noah to kill himself. Or was it not meant to apply to what's been said in slenderverse/candleverse but what is about to come? Gosh, this episode got real confusing, real quick.

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stevo6456
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danutzzz wrote:
Hello, long time lurker around here Very Happy

I've attached some pics of Noah's stalker

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Is that HABIT / Evan ?


(Took out picture to save room.)

Anyway, i am pretty sure that is Habit. As i've stated in my other post, Habit is the figure that appears in the park, and i assume that these are the same person. Honestly, i think Habit was following him and teleporting him around (as well as screwing with the order fo the footage) just to screw with Noah.

If you look at those picture you can tell that the figure is wearing a baseball cap, plus, in the first one there is purple distortion.

Finnaly, Habit refers to this realm as "His own house". It makes sense that he would be able to be omnipresent in it. Also, Habit isn't the best of friends with the collective so we know they can;t be there. Therefore, i think it is HABIT following him.

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AssassinB
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Yeah guys that's clearly Evan/HABIT in his "I just killed Jeff" Death Proof hat and bloodstained clothing. The first picture is pretty clear, his arm arches too far away from his body to be Mr. Tall and Slender, that's obviously a human being wearing a hat.

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SignerJ
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Where to begin...
This post tends to wander from ideas, so I have tried to make it easier to navigate by dividing it into slightly coherent parts.

MC_Loki wrote:
So now we have TribeTwelve, EMH, DarkHarvest, WhisperedFaith, and KeratinGarden* all operating in the same universe (or a very connected, tightly woven multiverse).


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I remember an OOG statement by Lee saying that the stories of WhisperedFaith and EverymanHYBRID are not compatible. This video seems to contradict that, however...


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MC_Loki wrote:
"When Story Met Habit." I would kill for this.


I honestly do not want to see that happen. Story is having a tough enough time as it is; I don't know how much more she can take. I definitely don't want to see her get tortured by HABIT.

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I think that the figure following Noah at the beginning is the Administrator. It seems to be the only reasonable explanation. The figure is tall and inhuman, it can teleport him, it can warp time... All of which the Administrator has been confirmed to be able to do.

In addition, HABIT was surprised that Noah was in his own mini-verse (I'll elaborate on this later in the post). HABIT's surprise, in my opinion, lends credibility to the idea that the Administrator is the one who put Noah where he was.

I can't decide*, however, if the Administrator/Firebrand is the one who teleported Noah back home, or if HABIT is the one who did so.


*Whether you should live or die

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At this point, I don't think that anything can be trusted. Not what Firebrand says, and definitely not what HABIT says. The "Jeff" that appeared is probably the most trustworthy person in that entire video, and yet we aren't sure if it was even the real Jeff.

I think that HABIT and the Administrator are running a complicated gambit together. They are manipulating Noah into doing something very specific, something that would probably increase their power. I'm starting to think more and more that Firebrand is allied with the Administrator; it makes sense, considering all that has happened. Think about the path that Noah is on right now. The fact that HABIT supports this path is evidence enough that it shouldn't be trusted. And yet, everything Firebrand has done has led Noah down this path, to these events.

I'm not entirely sure what the endgame is, but I know that it will not be good for Noah. It probably won't be good for the EMH guys, the MLAndersen0 guys, or the DarkHarvest guys, either.

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If you think about it, everything revolves around Noah. The Observer may have said that there are countless sessions, but I'm starting to think that was a lie. Mary, Milo, Kevin... It seems that everyone in the Collective has some tie to Noah. And it isn't just TribeTwelve, either. HABIT is now heavily involved, and who knows what else. Something big is happening, and Noah might be the keystone of it all.

I hate to say it, but Noah probably should consider following "Jeff's" suggestion. Sure, "Jeff" isn't trustworthy. And yet, all of the major players want Noah alive. Killing himself would change the course of the future and would probably screw up their plans.

The main problem with this theory is the fact that we don't know if that was the real Jeff. For all we know, "Jeff" might have been a puppet of HABIT/the Administrator, trying to convince Noah to kill himself. We just don't know.

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We already know in EMH that mini-verses exist. Not only is there the Candleverse theory, but, more importantly, we know that Dr. Corenthal has his own mini-verse. Therefore, it isn't too much of a stretch to find out that HABIT possessed his own mini-verse as well.

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I think that's about it, for now. I suppose, when it comes down to it, this video really was a "Bridge to Nowhere" for TribeTwelve. Noah didn't get any information at all, really. But as for EMH...this video has some very interesting implications.

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Oransel
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Slenderverse is becoming as complicated as DC or Marvel Comics with all the crossovers and contradictions between participating stories. Actually, the only real constant in all these stories is Noah. Even Slenderman is too different in each series to be considered "tying element". That's why I agree with this notion:

SignerJ wrote:
If you think about it, everything revolves around Noah. The Observer may have said that there are countless sessions, but I'm starting to think that was a lie. Mary, Milo, Kevin... It seems that everyone in the Collective has some tie to Noah. And it isn't just TribeTwelve, either. HABIT is now heavily involved, and who knows what else. Something big is happening, and Noah might be the keystone of it all.


All major series are connected to each other only through Noah. Most of them have not even acknowleged each other (EMH guys did met DH guys, but Noah had to be involved and there was silence between two series ever since, despite close geographical position). If we take comics analogy - TribeTwelve is central universe, which also works as a hub among many alternate universes.

I am not familiar with a lot of OOG things here and I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it's Adam enthusiasm, technical skills and social skills that are keeping all of the Slenderverse united. Kudos to the guy, I believe that noone else besides Victor Surge and Trosephim has ever done as much for Slenderman stories.

As for this log - it was nice and scary. Horror has been on demise in Slenderseries for quite a long time because of oversaturation. Only TribeTwelve is consistent in keeping things really scary.

There is definitely something big that is going to happen. I have never watched WhisperedFaith or Keratin Garden (what's the connection to Tribe Twelve? And how many other blogs are connected to TT?), but EMH, DT and MLA0 (which is likely a part of big Slenderverse) arks all suggest that there would be some drastic shifts soon.

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SilentMedusa
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They better not be doing any giant, super-duper crossover; if I have to start watching a bunch of series I have no interest in just to know what's going on in the three (DH TT and EMH) I do watch, that could what makes me stop watching altogether.

On a different note, to me the audio distortion happening while Noah was looking for the bridge sounded like backwards music to me, which made me think The Observer was about to make his grand return and make a grab for Noah. Or at least, some of the other Collective members. Especially since Firebrand said to find the bridge "before they do". He never says who "they" are.

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I think that Jeff didnīt mean that Noah shoul kill himself, but that he should kill FIREBRAND!

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MariahTedder
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^^ Which if Noah stabs Firebrand, using a knife "possessed" with the symbol (knowledge given to Noah by Habit's tampering of the situation)...he can free Future!Noah/FB from the Administrator, thus preventing any messy paradoxes and such.

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Wondertje
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Why did I never even think of that possibility? It does sound quite plausible and makes much more sense than what I rambled about Razz

However, Firebrand is already free from the administrator - as far as we've been told HABIT took care of that. Or as they called it he was made free by "someone with similar interests".

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bunksteve
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Wondertje wrote:
However, Firebrand is already free from the administrator - as far as we've been told HABIT took care of that. Or as they called it he was made free by "someone with similar interests".


Just thought I'd chime in on this:

Yes, Firebrand is already free, and yes we are to assume HABIT had a hand in it...

But considering all of the time paradoxes involved in this series, it's not out of the question that Noah could still be the one to "free" Firebrand with the knife. Basically I'm saying that there's a way for all of this to be true.

Also, hey everyone! Longtime lurker!

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