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[Serum]

Okay, as much as I like this little war, let's keep it in the Tim Thread where it belongs, I don't want to get chewed out by a moderator.

[Lheai]

Honestly, I don't think any conclusions can be made from the pages yet. The only names we got to see were Brian, Tim, Sarah, and Jay, but then Jay turned the camera away, leaving several more papers that we didn't get a look at. If the pages really meant anything important, we'll get an Entry 72.5 and we'll get to see them all.

[Jiime_6]

[JrPacMan]

I realized I never posted my review of the entry. Or somehow technology decided to troll me. Anyway, here it is.

Ok, I've been a fan of this series since entry #51, when I first discovered it, but it's time to turn off "fanboy mode" and actually look at this entry. I didn't like it. Sure, the visuals and acting were great, as usual, but it didn't progress the story at all. They confirmed some things that we already pretty much knew anyway. This entry did not advance the plot at all. Nothing new happened. They just wandered around looking for clues until TO showed up and scared them away. Just like so many entries this season. It was good to start, but it's really gotten old. I would like to see the plot move forward for once.

[TheOperator]

[aidansean]

I'm thinking that the orders of the names matters. The orders for the pages is Brian, Tim, Sarah, Jay (and on the page that lists them all Seth is between Brian and Tim.) Based on what we know about the chronology at the hospital when Brian went missing then is seems like Jay was "goned" first, then Sarah, then Tim, Seth and Brian. Given that Tim suggested that Alex's making Jay "gone" was a panic reaction then I think we could learn a lot from how Sarah went missing, because the attack on Tim probably was planned in advance. Was the attack on Sarah the first one that was planned?

[Lheai]

[Zarggg]

[Grumplestiltskin]

I meant, "Alex has tried to kill the person," you know, like, in Tim's instance, rebar to the head? Whether or not this was a sacrifice to T.O., I don't know, though he certainly was there when Alex was gettin' all smacky with the iron bar. I don't think he expected Tim to get up and walk away from that, because Alex definitely meant to hunt him down and finish the job when we see him searching for Tim later with the flashlight.

[Zarggg]

I can see that, but at the same time... it would be odd to be crossing off names if there was just an attempt.

Is the Operator working from a "you tried, so you get a gold star" basis?

[Drksrpnt]

Theory that isn't a theory: Jay is not hallucinating.

Just hear me out.
In Entry 69, at 6:45, there was a single-frame screen tear distortion effect. I posted a screenshot of it in the Entry 69 thread, here it is again: Link
It's at the bottom of the screen.

That single frame was directly before checking the footage after Jay's "hallucination". We've all agreed that the screen tearing means TO has teleported into the area.

Then, there were 2 frames of distortion at 4:52 in this entry, immediately after turning the camera back on after they checked the footage.

How do I know it's distortion? Because that has never happened before when a camera has been turned on after being turned off.

Here's the link because people seemingly aren't very good at frame-hopping: Link
Also at the bottom of the screen, definitely can't miss it here.

Well, if it turns out he is hallucinating... At the very least, he is able to sense TO ahead of time.

Edit: Also, there was sound distortion in this Entry when he was "hallucinating". There's no way you couldn't have heard that.

[Grumplestiltskin]

@ Zarggg -- I dunno. Maybe it's symbolic, a psyching-up to the actual act. These were once his friends, after all. Maybe writing their names down and crossing them out "killed" them for him, psychologically, so that when he had to physically do it, it would be less of a shock.

On the other hand, that would be presupposing that Alex had any human feelings left, which I'm not sure is borne out by his behavior and affect...


@ Drksrpnt -- we're also pretty much agreed that Oppy cannot hide from the camera, regardless of what he can do to human perception. If he were there, in the view of the camera, we'd be able to see him. This doesn't rule out him having been somewhere out of the field of view at the time of filming, but it's hard to see how Jay might have "seen" him and the camera not.

[Ithilwen22]

My personal theory regarding Jay's hallucinations is that TO is essentially gaslighting Jay. Causing hallucinations, then actually appearing, so Jay can never know when he's actually seeing TO and when he isn't.

Then again, that also gets into TO's motivations, of which we know nothing, since the things he does seems rather arbitrary anyways.

[TheJoker]

[Incomplete]

Regarding Tim's bag and his insistence on putting the papers in the top pocket, to me it sure seems like he's hiding something. He goes out of his way to say "No, top pocket, top pocket" in a pretty insistent manner, then when Jay pans up Tim shoot him a bit of a guilty or nervous look (of course that could be attributed to their over all nervousness). Now I was among those who thought that Tim might have been holding Alex's gun at the end of Entry#67, and I'm surprised that no one has suggested this considering there were others who thought that too, but I had been kind of assuming that Tim has been walking around with the gun stashed away somewhere, so of course that's the first thing I thought when he said "top pocket". Just putting that out there since no one else has.