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paladin181
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Marshyy wrote:
Watched it back again, and right at the start of the video Jay makes a point of filming the back garden with only one or two trees in, and stating 'This is weird. I remember this area being a lot more wooded than this".

It just reminded me of the story Alex told in the forest about stringing people upto trees (SEE BOLD)

"[01:10] Alex: "When I first moved here, I remember hearing a story that back in the 1800's they thought this place was blessed because everything would grow so fast. They would take their worst criminals, murderers and child molesters and they would put them on trial before God out here. They would tie them up to the trees and the idea was that they would get stretched out, kind of like a rack. They never fed or gave them water though, so they would just die of dehydration."
[01:40] Jay: "Why are you telling me this?"
[01:42] Alex: "They never cut down the bodies. They would just burn the whole tree with them still on it." brief pause."

EDIT: Plus this is taken from Camero's post in this thread, talking about the notes they find in the cupboard.

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-Jay. A few trees
-Tim. Trees and a very small house drawn on it.
-Sarah. A few trees on the sheet.
-"DREAD COMES" sheet. O is operator symbol, there's a tree, some things crossed out.
-Sheet with just a big tree and operator symbol.


I've got a feeling that the trees have something to do with Alex's 'sacrifices'.
Probably not. Jay's memory is a shaky, unreliable thing and this just hammers this point home that details aren't as he remembers them.

Marshyy wrote:
Also, when Jay thought he saw the OP out of the window, that was with his own eyes and not the camera. I feel that they made a pretty big point that when we see the OP in the grass, the camera had been placed there by accident, and there were no human eyes watching him.

Potentially something like he can hide himself from certain people (this also impacts cameras) but cannot hide himself from cameras if no-one else is watching him.
I don't think so, I think that he wasn't bothering to hide from the camera, not that he couldn't. Either that or Jay's paranoia or fear (whch is what caused the slight audio distortion when he "saw" it) summoned it much the same way I think Alex's anger does.

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Janthran
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Marshyy wrote:
Also, when Jay thought he saw the OP out of the window, that was with his own eyes and not the camera. I feel that they made a pretty big point that when we see the OP in the grass, the camera had been placed there by accident, and there were no human eyes watching him.

Potentially something like he can hide himself from certain people (this also impacts cameras) but cannot hide himself from cameras if no-one else is watching him.

Right, I forgot to mention my take on that.
Slendy knows we're watching. He did that just to screw with us, and Jay.
fourth waaaaall

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Janthran wrote:
Marshyy wrote:
Also, when Jay thought he saw the OP out of the window, that was with his own eyes and not the camera. I feel that they made a pretty big point that when we see the OP in the grass, the camera had been placed there by accident, and there were no human eyes watching him.

Potentially something like he can hide himself from certain people (this also impacts cameras) but cannot hide himself from cameras if no-one else is watching him.

Right, I forgot to mention my take on that.
Slendy knows we're watching. He did that just to screw with us, and Jay.
fourth waaaaall


He knows his internet popularity...he's being a douche of a celebrity Shifty Eyes

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 		OOG/Fourth Wall:
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At best, he knows someone is watching him. The posting of the videos on YouTube is part of the fictional narrative. That doesn't necessarily bring an expectation of the Fourth Wall.


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 		But is the Operator aware of youtube? Does he care?

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 		Again I propose the idea that it would be stupid for the operator to hide himself from Jay, then appear to him shortly after. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever to do that.

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Zarggg wrote:
OOG/Fourth Wall:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
At best, he knows someone is watching him. The posting of the videos on YouTube is part of the fictional narrative. That doesn't necessarily bring an expectation of the Fourth Wall.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
So technically speaking, we're not exactly the audience of Marble Hornets, but the real life counterparts of the fictional audience watching the 'real' events of the series unfold. That would mean the Operator is breaking the third and a half wall.


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Supersox wrote:
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Now imagine your finger being placed in the 2D dotman's house. Suddenly a 2D dotman-like thing appears. The thing being the part of your finger touching his world. Dotman can't perceive the third dimension and therefore can't see any of you other than the part of you that touches his world. To him you look like him, but then not quite quite like him. You can move through walls as well as disappear and reappear at random. He can't escape you because he's got nowhere to go that you can't get to. Nothing he does can bother you because even if he wounds you all he did was hurt your finger tip. And to freak him out more when he does wound you use a different finger. To him it would look like you regenerated. You can spend days just screwing with Dotman and nothing can stop you. Dotman will never be able to figure out what is happening.

Perhaps this is what the operator is. A piece of an extra-dimensional being from a dimension we can't perceive. What we see is what comes into contact with our world. Maybe interaction with the OP is making his victims aware of the extra dimension and slowly causing them to perceive it...

Though I don't think that this is anywhere near the case, but I thought it was interesting. Razz


So what you're saying is that the Operator is a cross-section of a 4 dimensional object, just like the finger tip in your story functions as a cross section of a 3 dimensional object?


That is exactly what I was saying.

It was an interesting concept, I suddenly remembered it, and realized how much like the Operator it sounded like.

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Serum wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
OOG/Fourth Wall:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
At best, he knows someone is watching him. The posting of the videos on YouTube is part of the fictional narrative. That doesn't necessarily bring an expectation of the Fourth Wall.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
So technically speaking, we're not exactly the audience of Marble Hornets, but the real life counterparts of the fictional audience watching the 'real' events of the series unfold. That would mean the Operator is breaking the third and a half wall.

Maybe it's the window on the fourth wall??

So we're suggesting TO made himself visible simply because he knew it would show up on camera and wanted to freak out Jay's YouTube audience in the event he uploaded it? Cause if that's not what we were suggesting, well, now I suggested it.

Also, minor nitpick: it's TO, not OP. Nothing wrong with OP, except that usually refers to "Original Poster" on forums. So when you keep saying "OP wiped their memories" and the like, you're saying the guy who posted this thread wiped their memories. Who in this case, incidentally, is Marble Hornets The Unfiction User Not To Be Mistaken With Marble Hornets The Show.

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The Condor wrote:
Xicon wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if they reveal the operator travels in 4 dimensions


This is little more than a nitpick, but in my crusade for better techno/Eldritchbabble I am compelled to point out that everything travels in four dimensions, since the fourth dimension is time. Every one travels across spacetime, even if we can only perceive three of the four.

/physics geek on crusade


Oh Jesus above dude. The 4th Demension is not time!!! That's a big pet peeve of mine when someone says that.

Here. Educate yerself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I


Biggest problem with his video is that he says we perceive things as 2 dimensions. We don't unless we're missing 1 or 2 eyes. While each eye may "perceive" a 2D object, our brains work in such a way that we see them as 1 whole 3D object. Each eye sees a slightly different view and our brain takes these two views and puts them together as a 3D view.

But I'm getting off topic now, so I'll stop there. It does make me wonder what dimension the Operator sees in...seeing as he has no eyes.

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Supersox wrote:
The Condor wrote:
Xicon wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if they reveal the operator travels in 4 dimensions


This is little more than a nitpick, but in my crusade for better techno/Eldritchbabble I am compelled to point out that everything travels in four dimensions, since the fourth dimension is time. Every one travels across spacetime, even if we can only perceive three of the four.

/physics geek on crusade


Oh Jesus above dude. The 4th Demension is not time!!! That's a big pet peeve of mine when someone says that.

Here. Educate yerself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I


Biggest problem with his video is that he says we perceive things as 2 dimensions. We don't unless we're missing 1 or 2 eyes. While each eye may "perceive" a 2D object, our brains work in such a way that we see them as 1 whole 3D object. Each eye sees a slightly different view and our brain takes these two views and puts them together as a 3D view.

But I'm getting off topic now, so I'll stop there. It does make me wonder what dimension the Operator sees in...seeing as he has no eyes.


No visible eyes. Who says eyes have to even be on the face?

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 		Why does everyone seem to forget/overlook the fact that one of the most basic premises of this series is that the Operator cannot hide from the camera.

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SignerJ wrote:
Why does everyone seem to forget/overlook the fact that one of the most basic premises of this series is that the Operator cannot hide from the camera.


I don't know if we have proven that yet...or if we can prove it.

We could have some evidence suggesting that he could hide from the camera if we have an entry where everyone IG sees him, but us people who are OOG don't see him.

I can't think of a way to actually prove he can't hide from the camera. Like, I could type the letter "t" fourteen times in a row for a post and post it, but until I actually do it, you don't actually know I'm capable of it (although it is really plausible).

Don't get me wrong though...I'm in the "TO can't hide from the camera" camp...but I'm open to this being disproven as well.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
Again I propose the idea that it would be stupid for the operator to hide himself from Jay, then appear to him shortly after. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever to do that.


And I answer with a reply to a different post:
Beidah wrote:
But is the Operator aware of youtube? Does he care?


Yes, it seems like it.

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 		Sorry if this has been mentioned already (38 pages is a lot to read through), but I felt that the pages with the crossed names didn't so much imply that Alex off'd the people listed.
While I'm sure that they're meant to give us that impression, we also know that Alex's drawings are a manifestation of his obsessive mind; afterall, he draws the Operator sign like 500 times. I don't think there's any precedent set in the series showing that the drawings have any sort of powers or magic properties, so maybe the list is just a reiteration of his "they're gone" statement, now a part of his crazed scribbles that purely revolved around himself and his encounter with the Operator before his friends started being "gone".
I still want to believe that Alex is just a victim, though I know that the evidence continually mounts against it.

EDIT:
Also, the idea of "time" being the fourth dimension is not necessarily untrue. Quaternions, a four-dimensional function, have their fourth variable labeled as "time", though their discoverer William Rowe Hamilton admitted he did not have a better name for it.

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