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Biography of The Operator
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TheSupremeFace
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Ztakk wrote:
Grumplestiltskin wrote:
TheSupremeFace wrote:
That's why there's a SPECULATION category Razz

-----------------EDIT------------------
Added an "Origins" category, as well as boxing each category with the Quote forum code


For what it's worth, apparently Trosephim have stated that T.O. has no origin story -- I have not actually heard this myself, but I have it on good authority (which is to say, Lithp Cool ) that this is so.

However. The creepy story that Alex tells Jay in Entry 38 would imply that T.O is the result of some cruel and unusual punishment meted out to child molesters...


They said in the DVD Commentary during that scene that it was NOT an origin story.

As for the mimic human speech and changing height, changing height I would say is more of a speculated ability (maybe?). We've seen TO apparently change height between entries, but it's never been a real shown power of his. The mimic speech I don't think ever happened, I just think it was distortion. It only happened once (if at all) and never happened again. To me if it was one of TO's powers, then it'd be more prevalent in the series.


About the height change, I put it there because in entry 72, he's VERY tall when he's in the grassy fields. In Entry 60 (maintenance tunnel under hospital), I was thinking "Oh he won't get slender'd, Mr. No Face won't fit in there"...BAM...that's my reason for keeping it in speculation.

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Lithp
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Here's a question posed in the Entry 72 thread: Is The Operator a pseudoscientific entity or a supernatural one?

I'm going with pseudoscientific. Tim's symptoms likely originated with The Operator, & they can be controlled by the pills. This implies that, to some extent, The Operator is bound to natural laws. He's not based on hard science, mind you, but he's not magical & he does have limits. This is what I believe Trosephim intended. However, as far as I know, there's nothing that clearly & decisively indicates that it is one or the other.

Fair warning, also courtesy of the Entry 72 thread: If you don't want to be part of the debate, just don't. Shouting down a theory just because you personally dislike it is senseless & annoying.

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I see we are not all in agreement.

Pravado wrote:
I disagree!


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Janthran
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Ristar wrote:
I'll post a theory, it has been said or referenced before, so i'll just put it here:

I'm pretty sure that TO powers by themselves are pretty weak at first, it only seems to stalk his victims in the beggining and his powers seem to grow the more the victim is aware/scared of him.

(This is a personal of mine) If he is spotted by someone he is unable to move, no matter what, it seems that his influence over the subject depends on how close he is to TO, if he is caught by a camera or any sort of image recorder, he cannot move away. He only seems to move/teleport whenever he is not being watched by anyone.

He's chased Jay in Rosswood at least once, I don't remember what entry but it was one where he was with Alex. We also saw him look at Tim in 72.

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Toadbert
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To play devil's advocate, entry #40 (which is the only one where Jay, Alex and the Operator are relatively together I'm pretty sure) Jay looks away for a moment trying to escape.

But of course, we've seen the Operator open a door and walk right into a room on camera before, so it doesn't matter

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paladin181
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Janthran wrote:
Ristar wrote:
I'll post a theory, it has been said or referenced before, so i'll just put it here:

I'm pretty sure that TO powers by themselves are pretty weak at first, it only seems to stalk his victims in the beggining and his powers seem to grow the more the victim is aware/scared of him.

(This is a personal of mine) If he is spotted by someone he is unable to move, no matter what, it seems that his influence over the subject depends on how close he is to TO, if he is caught by a camera or any sort of image recorder, he cannot move away. He only seems to move/teleport whenever he is not being watched by anyone.

He's chased Jay in Rosswood at least once, I don't remember what entry but it was one where he was with Alex. We also saw him look at Tim in 72.
Entry 4? He was RUNNING as Alex spins around to catch him on camera.

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KTsteve
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I like the idea of this thread. I always thought we needed more "compilation" threads. Mostly because i notice a lot of people don't read every thread. A friend i got into the series lately was watching 72 with me. I went "holy crap! The time manipulation debate can finally end, it's official now!" he responded "wait... there was a debate?".

I agree the speculation needs some kind of limitation put to it. Like maybe next to the theory, put a short sentence saying why it's speculated or a link to the forum section it was discussed most heavily. Also if it's a debate, put the arguments for/against it. Even if the argument against is "not enough evidence". In order to be "confirmed" the reason would have to be mentioned directly by a character, confirmed oog, or happened multiple times in plain view of a camera. Otherwise every theory of "Hoody is future Jay and Sarahs kid sent back in time, and TO is the surrogate mother that birthed him" could find it's way in there.

I'm not really feeling a lot of the motivation sections speculation though. While the other segments at least have some evidence behind them, it has none. I don't think I've seen a single incident where TO himself burned anything, or even was hinted he burned something. Wants to watch the world drown would have more evidence, slendysickness symptons are similar to drowning, tons of references to water in tta videos, and the chest cam footage of Tim getting "drowned".
The feeding off memories I can see where where discussion could happen there. There's not enough evidence to prove he actually needs memories or gets something from them, but he at least manipulates memories. Though if you keep that in there, you also have to mention the theory that he just doesn't want to be known. Like his goal is just to make everyone forget him, but he's just really bad at not getting accidentally seen by others. It has similar evidence as the feeding off memories theory, and isn't exactly insane either.
Then acts like a virus and spreads his slendersickness? Maybe I missed some thread on this, but I've literally never seen this discussed. I remember a theory about how he has to turn someone else into a new operator, and his target is Alex. I can see where both of these theories are coming from, because they're not insane theory's. But, if you include them you'd have to include every theory where the only evidence is that TO can cause slendersickness in victims.

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ReverendJ
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Camero wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
In Entry 98, Operator is offscreen for a moment, and moments later, a manatee is seen in his place.
Dude Spoilers!

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TheJoker
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ReverendJ wrote:
Camero wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
In Entry 98, Operator is offscreen for a moment, and moments later, a manatee is seen in his place.
Dude Spoilers!

I thought the fact that TO is
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
a manatee

was common knowledge by now?

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Ztakk
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paladin181 wrote:
Janthran wrote:
Ristar wrote:
I'll post a theory, it has been said or referenced before, so i'll just put it here:

I'm pretty sure that TO powers by themselves are pretty weak at first, it only seems to stalk his victims in the beggining and his powers seem to grow the more the victim is aware/scared of him.

(This is a personal of mine) If he is spotted by someone he is unable to move, no matter what, it seems that his influence over the subject depends on how close he is to TO, if he is caught by a camera or any sort of image recorder, he cannot move away. He only seems to move/teleport whenever he is not being watched by anyone.

He's chased Jay in Rosswood at least once, I don't remember what entry but it was one where he was with Alex. We also saw him look at Tim in 72.
Entry 4? He was RUNNING as Alex spins around to catch him on camera.


Also have to remember the Bruce killing. The camera was on TO and he tele'd

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That does bring a very good point. I'm not entirely positive if the "cannot move if captured on video" was from earlier incarnations of the Slender Man theory or early speculation about the Operator. However, it does seem that this quality is no longer true. Whether that is because the Operator is becoming more powerful or because it was never a limitation at all still remains to be seen.

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onetruepurple
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He glides in Entry #6. This theory is absolute BS.

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abcetc
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Just curious, what would you say was his height in the most recent entry?

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TheSupremeFace
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Man I haven't been here for a while...i'll read the posts and see what to modify

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TheSupremeFace
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Zarggg wrote:
That does bring a very good point. I'm not entirely positive if the "cannot move if captured on video" was from earlier incarnations of the Slender Man theory or early speculation about the Operator. However, it does seem that this quality is no longer true. Whether that is because the Operator is becoming more powerful or because it was never a limitation at all still remains to be seen.


I'm not sure if we actually see him move (while he's still in frame) after Season 1, it could just be OOG elements...

Wait, you see him peeking his...shoulders out a door frame when Hoody is about to shoot Alex. I'll get the entry and the time it occurred:

Skip to around 5:38



YouTube: Link


So I don't think TO freezes when caught on camera, I believe he just chooses NOT to move


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