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[TheSupremeFace]

[Grumplestiltskin]

Not sure to whom that question is directed; I was just attempting to answer abcetc's question, since it has been speculated that TO might be able to change his height at will (and more than one person will doubtless wonder how an 8-foot creature manages to fit into those hospital basement tunnels).

[TheSupremeFace]

[abcetc]

In the hospital maintenance tunnel he appears to be crawling.

[TheSupremeFace]

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[searchanddestroy]

I have a therory and didn't know where else to put it. What if the Tulpa effect came into play? For those who don't know, the Tulpa effect is where enough people believe in something and it becomes real (basically). It's all over the slenderman wiki.
Now what if Alex created The Operator through the Tulpa effect when he made him a charector in a script for an early student film. Maybe Alex was into horror before crappy romance and accidently created the Operator when he became obsessed with the project. When The Operator was born the film ceased to exist and exited our dimension in order to make room for TO. Tim could have had a normal childhood until Alex had his charector stalked since birth in the film. So when TO was created, it created a different reality thus altering history. Finally the Ark could have been the original script which somehow stayed in our dimension and if destroyed it will destroy TO out of existence.
So guys could this make sense? Does anyone have a different variation on the therory that might work better? Sorry to necro this thread but I had to post this therory

[Ztakk]

[Zarggg]

I have to agree. This theory has way too many "what ifs" that do not have any support in the series itself to be substantiated here.

Speculation is a good thing around here, but we've mostly agreed that we need concrete, explicitly-stated evidence from the videos to tie it all together.

[hachiman]

If TO is one of the criminals who died in the execution, maybe Alex is a descendant of him?

[searchanddestroy]

[Ztakk]

[AbyssalRook]

Ok, I'm just gonna throw up my thoughts on TO here since, well, it's kinda the best place for it. This is all speculation in the end, so don't think I'm trying to force some canon, I just choose to think about it this way, and will continue to view the series in this light to see if things fit well until it gets to the point where it just becomes so unlikely that there's no point in even humoring it anymore.

The Operator, I think, is a little bit less...threatening than it appears on the surface. A lot of people have posed that it is attempting to save people, as it only seems to take people when they are critically injured or dead. There's a lot of weight to this, and it does make sense in a lot of ways, so I tend to lean that way in general. The Operator, in my internal interpretation, is just that. It operates and attempts to save those that it abducts.

Now, this technically makes TO a good guy in that his intentions are pure. However, it should also be noted that he does not have a good understanding of humans, or perhaps even a good understanding of himself. His realm (Which I call The Operating Room) is not something that the human mind can fully understand. The flow of time doesn't work the same way there that it does here. It's fragmented and broken, and a human mind would be driven to insanity by being in or near it, as we saw after Tim got out in 72.

That being said, I'm willing to go a step further with the TO as a doctor idea and say that not only does he take critically wounded, dying, or dead people, but he only takes people that are unconscious, or otherwise have their perception (and thus their mind) altered to be able to properly comprehend reality in The Operating Room. At least, that's what he thinks is the ideal condition.

That's where the Slendysickness comes in. It's TO's way of conditioning the mind to survive and perceive time in The Operating Room. The human body, naturally, is not OK with this and reacts accordingly, leading to the heavy coughing and spitting up blood, and weakness of the limbs as the body denotes energy to fighting off what it sees as a threat. Since this conditioning would mess with the perception of time, the 'hallucinations' that Jay has of seeing people where there aren't any might be the "sickness" taking effect. He's not seeing where them where they ARE, he's seeing TO where he WILL be, or he's seeing Hoodie/whoever where he HAS been.

Again, the mind doesn't like this, and seeing things that aren't there, however correct you will be or would have been, leads to paranoia and other mental breakdowns. I think one of the indirect effects of this is the addiction to carrying around a camera. It's used to validate yourself, or as the mind's way of replaying what really did happen. It's a focus meant to ground the wielder of the camera to a reality that they feel instinctively is slipping away from them, because it literally is. The camera distortion comes about because TO literally DOES distort reality around himself, and the camera tries it's damnedest to interpret what it picks up. This reality/temporal distortion also takes a bigger toll on the body, and the slendysickness kicks into high gear, debilitating its victim further and, as is likely the final goal, leading to unconsciousness.

The medication given to Tim, and anyone else who goes to the doctor with these symptoms, is likely something like Lithium that balances out the brain and counteracts the slendysickness. This means that it puts a hold on the conditioning of the mind.

At first, I don't think TO knew this. When he showed up in the tunnel to Jay and Tim and took Tim away Tim had had a harsh attack, but he'd probably taken his medication shortly before heading out. He was unable to move, partially out of shock and fear and partially from the coughing fit, and so TO assumed he was prepared and sent him to The Operating Room. I think that when you get taken, you go to a random point in the realm. Some seem to think that the water area is the entrance, but I don't think that dead body moved itself that far away. So combined with the medication keeping his mind grounded in our reality's laws, the shock of falling in the water jolted him awake and allowed him to move about freely.

For a little while, TO didn't know what was going on, and was confused by what was happening. Everyone else who he'd taken had simply stayed where they were, but the way Tim was acting, TO realized that he made a mistake. He let Tim out, and he popped out somewhere in the woods.

Then in 72, Tim and Jay get separated for a while. When Tim finds Jay again, Jay is unconscious, and he's been affected by the unbridled Slendysickness for quite a while. He's ready to be taken. TO prepares to do just that, but then he recognizes Tim and remembers what happened when he took him. He then second-guesses himself and leaves them behind, to think on the matter, observe them, and ensure that he's making the right decision. He doesn't want another mess-up on his hands. After all, that's just plain malpractice.

Now, in 80, he pops in, finds Jay alone. The gears in that Slendyhead start turning (As he tilts his head to the side while observing Jay). Finally, he figures "Welp, he's gonna die if I leave him here," and he zaps him off to The Operating Room, where I don't have enough information to even guess at what'll happen to him. I'll go with stasis for now, just to have some answer, but I'm in no way tied down to it.

This only leaves me, really, with Alex. Alex Alex Alex. I don't think Alex is working with or for TO, exactly. I think Alex is one of the few 'successes' that TO has had recently. Alex is injured badly, and TO takes him off to The Operating Room. Through whatever method he uses, he succeeds in fixing him up and releases him back out into the world. However, Alex's mind is now stretched and split. He's living in two worlds at once, but I think he's come to terms with it in a way. I think he now sees time differently than normal people, and he has a deeper understanding of TO than anyone else in this world, which is why he doesn't fear him. With his mind already accustomed to both the real world and The Operating Room, he has nothing to fear, and he may even be able to leave it if he is brought there. I think he might have used this special ability of his to know when Jay and Tim were going to be in the tunnel, and so could call them when he knew they'd be there, or he got a glimpse of them as it was happening and called them as soon as he was able.

Also, being successful is something that probably doesn't happen too much to good 'ol TO. I think he sticks around Alex because he wants to keep an eye on him. To watch his success and see how it evolves and affects the world. As for Alex, I don't really know what his motives are. I think he might be testing what TO can do. What he can and can't cure.

Or I could just be talking out of my ass and wasting an hour typing all of this up. Who knows? Anyway, that's enough outta me for now, I just wanted to get this all out through my fingertips, cause it's been buzzing around in my head for a while ><. Feel free to ignore me if you want~.

[Ahntar]

Wow, I'm impressed Ya, like you said that is nothing but speculation, but it's a neat line of thought and I could certainly see this sort of thing coming out of Troy's head. It seems like just his kind of mix of complexity and meaning. The odd mix of humanity and ultimate alienness in the Operator that you suggest, the mind-breaking yet somewhat superior state of mind that Alex might be in, and the potentially wildly inaccurate opinions that Tim and Jay may have had about the whole thing, all seem right in line with Troy's typical tone.

That doesn't mean this'll end up being at all accurate...but I wouldn't be surprised if the answers in the end have a similar kind of theme. There definitely seems to be *some* kind of humanity-mixed-with-total-not-humanity going on in Alex, who can be so creepily coherent sometimes, and I love the idea that Alex's insanity could be a way for the mind to cope with TO's alien "benevolence." *shiver* The specific nature of that paradox might explain a lot about TTA's condition too.

The problem with answers in stories like this, is that answers tend to deflate the coolness of the questions. But the best answers seem to walk a balance between paradoxes, thereby keeping the coolness of the mystery without foregoing the closure of satisfying answers. So, ya, cool speculation, I love how your ideas bring together such a mixture of motives and alien perspectives to keep it weird while making it make enough sense to handle. I bet the real answers are gonna be similar in that sense if nothing else, keeping it cool while giving us enough closure.

[Ztakk]

I like that thought but I don't think it's true in any sense. It relies too much on humanizing The Operator like some curious person that's still learning. TO works better as an omnipotent character.