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[Geneaux486]

[chaoswinter]

I am starting to think if we go more than a day without seeing the tape it means Jay saw the tape and went to the address on his own or he watched the tape and went back to Tim.

I'm hoping it's the latter. Tim was doing everything he could to look out for Jay because he knows his condition is getting worse, I personally think if Tim wanted to "convert" Jay or unlock his inner demons that would make him a Masky or a Hoodie type person he wouldn't be looking out for him like this. He never would have brought Jay to the doctors or given him his medication.

I think that Jay will go back to Tim. If it isn't after watching the tape it will definitely be before he goes to that address.

[CenturyChild]

[chaoswinter]

[Beidah]

[chaoswinter]

Tim never broke down or went Masky while he was with Jay in the town where they were staying before returning back to the Rosswood town. Jay recovered from the slender sickness faster than probably would have been expecting. On top of that, Tim while under the effects of the medication was able to get within feet of TO.

[Beidah]

[Lithp]

[Gante]

I trust Tim to be on the side of the angels. I don't trust him to always make the right decisions. It was clearly the wrong decision to "hide" that tape in such an obvious place. I think that if Tim is a bad guy, he'd be a much more competent one.

Giving Jay his own meds may be unwise, but think about it: Your friend has been mind-woogied by an entity from the Nth dimension. What is the correct course of action in those circumstances? There are no maps to the place where Jay and Tim are traveling. They just have to try things and hope they work.

If Tim had bad intentions toward Jay, he could have left him to the tender mercies of the Operator in #72. He could have left Jay at the hotel when he went to get the tape. He could have said "Don't watch that tape!" instead of "It's something you need to watch, but not yet." He didn't have to spend a month nursing Jay through his nervous breakdown, or make Jay and appointment with his own doctor. Can you imagine Alex doing this?

The one who keeps calling Tim a liar is Totheark. I don't trust Totheark as far as I could spit a rat.

[Sha Noran]

Stop acting like Jay could have died from Tim's pills. An allergy is unlikely given what we know about the pills (anti-seizure meds), and also in 65 Tim downed like, a whole fuckin bottle. They don't seem like very dangerous pills to me at all. People take pills all the time that aren't their own perscription just to get high. Tim was applying logic to the situation given his experience with the pills and the sickness. This aspect of the argument is being blown out of proportion imho.

[Beidah]

You don't give prescribed medication to someone else. This is common sense. These things are prescribed for a reason. If it was just tylenol or some other over the counter medicine, it wouldn't be as big a deal.

[gennerx]

[Geneaux486]

[Lithp]

I'm actually floored that people are having this much difficulty with the subject of popping Jay pills. Just call up your doctor, or a cop, or whatever, & ask them if it's really such a big deal to give someone your prescription, especially force-feeding it to them while they're unconscious. They're probably going to tell you exactly what I did, except probably without the part where it's understandable if your reasons are "good enough."

I don't know what you want me to tell you. The law & the medical community both consider it a huge fucking deal, regardless of whether or not you believe the dangers they cite. And this is a consequence that Tim may have had to deal with, since Jay has him on tape admitting to doing it. Odds are, he has video of the actual administration of the drugs.

Objectively, it's a very big deal.

And I know Tim can't just tell the hospital that Jay blacked out fighting The Operator. He doesn't have to. He just has to say that he thinks Jay had a seizure, & that's why he thinks that his seizure medication could help. After Tim has exhausted all legal & ethical options, if he still wants to try his zany pill scheme, that option is still on the table.

As Beidah said, this is all common sense, people. It's not like we're asking Tim to be a certified EMT. We are, in fact, asking him not to do that.

I also don't understand why we're only looking at this from Tim's point of view. Does Jay really have any reason to give Tim the benefit of the doubt? He knows, at the very least, that Tim has some involvement with Hoody, & he knows that Hoody has plotted to bust a cap in Alex's face before. Jay really has no idea the extent of Hoody's plans, & how much influence he may be able to exert on Tim.

In fact, though I consider it unlikely, it's not outside the realm of possibility that all of this "multiple personalities" shit is a very elaborate ruse to gain Jay's trust.

[Beidah]

Thank you, Lithp. It seems there are people here unwilling to accept that Tim makes any mistakes. The first thing I would've done if I was in Tim's shoes is drag Jay to the Doctor.