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Tenshi Akui
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 		The scans came out great Lobo! Also make sure you give your wife a thanks for filming for us! Smile

I adore the painting it's quite lovely and I love the fact you got the exact shot from the image they gave us!

As Eggz is already on the transcription that will be covered.

Now as to how to upload the audio file that's not that hard. Start a new post and on the left hand corner next to the subject line you'll see "Add an Attachment" you can add it there and then click message body to get back to the normal post reply you see when posting. (hope that made sense)
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 		ok i tried to upload the .Wav file but it keeps telling me im trying to upload an empty file. HELP!

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ok i tried to upload the .Wav file but it keeps telling me im trying to upload an empty file. HELP!


Are you uploading from the usb drive or your computer? If from the USB try putting it on your computer, if the other way around try loading it from the USB.
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 		I tried both ways and its not working. is there a good site where i could upload it and link it here?

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 		I've never used it but you could try sound cloud.
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 		ok here it is.

https://soundcloud.com/brian-whiting/feb-22-1943/s-76w6a

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 		the tumblr has been updated as well. I feel accomplished!

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LOBO247 wrote:
I'll post the sound file from the USB as soon as someone tells me how to do that Razz


When you're writing a reply, look for the "Options" panel to the left of where you type the message. Click "Add an Attachment" and you can upload it there.

Edit: Okay, so I write slow Razz

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So what we know/some conjecture, feel free to correct me on this or add your own thoughts:
    - The Soviets have the Mathematician working on particle cascade equations in an effort to outrace the Americans in making the atomic bomb.
    - The Spy is being sent to take him into protective custody in America.
    - Anika has been taken, likely by the Man.
    - the RMS Galatia had warning of the U-boat attacks
    - ~300 people were unaccounted for in the survivors of the Galatia attack
    - The Spy either remained or returned to Europe.




I don't know if I agree with the Mathematician working on the atomic bomb. I get the impression that the project he's working on involves the quantum fluctuations. Perhaps he discovered the equations that would permit altering of the time lines, thus insuring victory by changing the past(?)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the Mathematician was defecting to prevent the use of the equations for time altering device. What I find myself scratching my head about is the fact that the Mathematician is Russian. During WWII Russia and the US where Allies and working against Nazi Germany. So while I understand that for national security the US wouldn't want a "current" ally to have the potential to alter the time line, I'm still a little wonky on the whole reason behind it, after all it could aid them in the war as well.

Anika... either she was taken, or another possibility she was an agent put in place to keep an eye on the Mathematician and when he was delaying she was called to leave in an attempt to to scare him to finishing his work. But that is just a posibility, I'm also leaning to her being taken.

The attack on the ship, having warning back then didn't offer much in the way of protection. However the German U-Boats were under strict orders to follow the Prize Rules of ocean warfare which basically state that Merchant ships (which I believe cruse ships where considered) could be searched and if they were found to be carrying troops or supplies for the enemy they could be sunk. Remember this was back before the war had become totally uncivilized... however this also didn't stop "accidents" from happening. What I'm curious about is if it was really a German U-Boat that sunk the ship, if the Russians wanted the Mathematician back so badly, perhaps they were the ones who did it?

The Spy... I think the Spy came to europe. Honestly I think he is the old caretaker of the lighthouse.

Ok yeah I'm going to quit rambling now LOL Sorry for the long post.


Edit because I should not type and talk and typed something wrong.
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 		this just keeps getting better and better, not much to add at this point other than why the U.S. wouldnt want Russia working on W.M.Ds. The alliance between the U.S. and Russia was always a grudging one, perfect example of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and even during WW2, the U.S. knew that eventually we may enter into war with Russia, but at the time both knew the greater threat was the Nazis. So even though Russia having W.M.Ds may have helped win the war, the U.S. wouldn't be too keen on the idea, just because of what it might mean for us further down the road.
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Tenshi Akui wrote:
I don't know if I agree with the Mathematician working on the atomic bomb. I get the impression that the project he's working on involves the quantum fluctuations. Perhaps he discovered the equations that would permit altering of the time lines, thus insuring victory by changing the past(?)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the Mathematician was defecting to prevent the use of the equations for time altering device. What I find myself scratching my head about is the fact that the Mathematician is Russian. During WWII Russia and the US where Allies and working against Nazi Germany.


I'm pretty sure that the time fluctuations are something he's starting to stumble across in his new approach rather than what the Russians wanted of him in the first place. Take this line:
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I work again and again through this new math, this new horizon, try to find in it some hope, some flaw. I cannot see where this leads. At least it distracts. This, I can show them: it does not help them build their bomb.


Also the US and Russia weren't allies throughout the war, in fact they were largely allied with Germany up until 1945, so it fits in the timeline that they would be looking to build a weapon against the Americans at this point.

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The Spy... I think the Spy came to europe. Honestly I think he is the old caretaker of the lighthouse.


Yeah, I think that's supposed to be the whole motivation for the game "where did the Spy/Operative/whatever go after he's been at this lighthouse for 70 years?" But the question I was asking was a) did he ever even get on the RMS Galatia in the first place, or just stay in Europe?; b) Was he on the ship, and was he counted as a survivor or one of the "missing"?;, or c) Did he return to Europe after a debriefing at the OSS in New York?

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this just keeps getting better and better, not much to add at this point other than why the U.S. wouldnt want Russia working on W.M.Ds. The alliance between the U.S. and Russia was always a grudging one, perfect example of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and even during WW2, the U.S. knew that eventually we may enter into war with Russia, but at the time both knew the greater threat was the Nazis. So even though Russia having W.M.Ds may have helped win the war, the U.S. wouldn't be too keen on the idea, just because of what it might mean for us further down the road.


Very true, but at the same time we were working on the Atomic Bomb and the Russians weren't. Yes the Russians had spies that kept an eye on the Manhattan project, but they did not start work on their own A-Bomb devices until after the war had ended. Guess I just think in my mind it would be a mindset of "Hey we got the big boom let them play with their little toys."

But that's just me. LOL
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 		@eggz Germany invaded Russia with operation barbarossa, June 22,1941. by january 1945 russia invaded Berlin, and by May Berlin fell.

@tensh: you're right the U.S. wasnt too concerned with Russias advancements, but our generals had a lot of debate about how much support we should lend them. because like I said we knew eventually they would be our enemies

edit: to add more background

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Also the US and Russia weren't allies throughout the war, in fact they were largely allied with Germany up until 1945, so it fits in the timeline that they would be looking to build a weapon against the Americans at this point.


Actually the Russians had a Non-Agression pact with Germany until June 20 or 22 1941 when the Germans attacked Russia. The Russians entered World War II before the United States did as the US didn't enter until after Pearl Harbor as we at the time had the mentality of "This is a European War"

LOL Nighthawk beat me too it.
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Eggz wrote:

I'm pretty sure that the time fluctuations are something he's starting to stumble across in his new approach rather than what the Russians wanted of him in the first place. Take this line:
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I work again and again through this new math, this new horizon, try to find in it some hope, some flaw. I cannot see where this leads. At least it distracts. This, I can show them: it does not help them build their bomb.


Also the US and Russia weren't allies throughout the war, in fact they were largely allied with Germany up until 1945, so it fits in the timeline that they would be looking to build a weapon against the Americans at this point.


I agree that the "new approach is the quantum fluctuations that deal with time travel, adn that this isn't what the Soviets are interested in, but the Soviets very much fought on the side of the Allies from 1941-1945. They started out with a non-agression pact with Germany, which Hitler broke in 1941 because he decided invading Russia would have to work one of these days.

Now, the Soviets weren't exactly bosom buddy, trust-you-with-my life allies, like the Brits, so its definitely possible they were working on an A-bomb project too
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