Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:26 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: General » Old News & Rumors
In Defense of Summer
View previous topicView next topic
Page 19 of 25 [361 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25  Next
Author Message
Tenshi Akui
Entrenched


Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Posts: 1003
Location: Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea
RAD24 wrote:


Going off that, I'm thinking the message goes along as something like
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Eating/preying as a raven does, since itheach is apparently the -vorous parts of those words. Also, what was the third word containing itheach?


The three words were listed in my spoiler above Rad Smile
_________________
Aconitum is In Defense of Summer
@TenshiAkui

PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:06 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
RAD24
Entrenched


Joined: 26 May 2009
Posts: 795
Location: Behind the wall
Tenshi Akui wrote:
RAD24 wrote:


Going off that, I'm thinking the message goes along as something like
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Eating/preying as a raven does, since itheach is apparently the -vorous parts of those words. Also, what was the third word containing itheach?


The three words were listed in my spoiler above Rad Smile


Ah, yep, I'm blind Laughing So, alright, I'm sticking with my interpretation of said words, barring any discordant info hidden in the other images. Also,
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I've found that ravens are omnivorous. Maybe there's no Ogham/Gaelic way of saying that, so they opted with this more roundabout way? If so, it'll definitely connect to the other images somehow.

Other things I've found: "Ravens have been associated by various cultures with different qualities. In popular western literature, they symbolize darkness, depression, and death (popularized in Edgar Allan Poe's poem, 'The Raven'). In medieval times they stood for virility. Among native cultures, Raven is the 'trickster' spirit, a popular totem, and the creator of man, who placed the Sun in the sky."

"Legend has it that a raven's favorite food is the body of a dead man, or of other dead animals, and that a raven will go first for the eyes of such a fallen creature. Other tales say that ravens will hunt with wolves and share the kill with them. "

So...there's a lot of potential symbolism with these.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:44 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
inkflamewriter
Decorated


Joined: 03 Aug 2011
Posts: 209
Location: North Carolina, US

 		Just to add to the potential symbolism, ravens do show up fairly often in Irish/Celtic mythology. I have a copy of The Names Upon The Harp somewhere that tells some different stories from said mythology, including the story of Deirdre, who sees a raven in the snow, drinking the blood of a recently killed calf.

Going to wikipedia, there's this:

Quote:
In Irish mythology ravens are associated with warfare and the battleground in the figures of Badb and Morrígan. The goddess An Morrígan alighted on the hero Cú Chulainn's shoulder in the form of a raven after his death.

Ravens were also associated with the Welsh god Bran the Blessed (the brother of Branwen), whose name translates to "raven." According to the Mabinogion, Bran's head was buried in the White Hill of London as a talisman against invasion. The name of the god, Lugh, is also derived from a Celtic word for "raven." He is the god of the sun, and the creator of the arts and sciences. He is depicted as giant and the King of the Britons in tale known as the Second Branch of the Mabinogi. Several other characters in Welsh mythology share his name, and ravens figure prominently in the 12th or 13th century text The Dream of Rhonabwy, as the army of King Arthur's knight Owain.

_________________
"Dearest writer of phoenix-ink..."

"CPIRAplaysno games
itisCPIRAs quarrythatplaysthe games
thelittlephoenixis playingnow" -Trickster

What else do I do in my free time? Check out my tumblr!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:56 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
Tenshi Akui
Entrenched


Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Posts: 1003
Location: Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea
RAD24 wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I've found that ravens are omnivorous. Maybe there's no Ogham/Gaelic way of saying that, so they opted with this more roundabout way? If so, it'll definitely connect to the other images somehow.

Other things I've found: "Ravens have been associated by various cultures with different qualities. In popular western literature, they symbolize darkness, depression, and death (popularized in Edgar Allan Poe's poem, 'The Raven'). In medieval times they stood for virility. Among native cultures, Raven is the 'trickster' spirit, a popular totem, and the creator of man, who placed the Sun in the sky."

"Legend has it that a raven's favorite food is the body of a dead man, or of other dead animals, and that a raven will go first for the eyes of such a fallen creature. Other tales say that ravens will hunt with wolves and share the kill with them. "

So...there's a lot of potential symbolism with these.


What's interesting to note is

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Before the introduction of Christianity to the Celtic world, the Raven was not associated with darkness. It was associated with war and battle specifically in the guise of The Morrigan.

It is said that much like the Valkyries the Morrigan would fly over battle fields and choose the victor. Because of this most Celts viewed the Raven with respect.

_________________
Aconitum is In Defense of Summer
@TenshiAkui

PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:58 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
bluesylvia
Unfettered


Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Posts: 369
Location: Chilly Colorado

 		A couple of tweets to make note of:

Unholy Court wrote:
Does the summer court really think that a bit of ogham will throw us off? especially with a literal translation behind it. hahaha


mrshomersimpson wrote:
I have been called to protect the couple, and bring them elsewhere..the assignment will tell you about it..


Also, here is the completed trinity knot since I guess there is no 4th message:
2.JPG
 Description   
 Filesize   1.03MB
    57 Time(s)

Unfortunately, this file is no longer in our archives.
_________________
Wisteria is a Mediator for In Defense of Summer

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:13 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
inkflamewriter
Decorated


Joined: 03 Aug 2011
Posts: 209
Location: North Carolina, US

 		Okay, I've got to admit, this game is cool and all and I'd love to participate fully, but the PM is starting to get on my nerves a bit. Yes, I did come in late. But they accepted my application, asked me what position I wanted, and then haven't spoken to me since, aside from some communication from Margaret Williams on skype.

As it stands now, I have no confirmation of what position I am taking. That being said, I'm not mad at the PM over this one, just...disappointed. It's not cool to make a player feel like they're getting left out.

I'll keep following along and helping with the puzzles as best I can, but there's not much else I can do until I hear something back from them. *shrug*
_________________
"Dearest writer of phoenix-ink..."

"CPIRAplaysno games
itisCPIRAs quarrythatplaysthe games
thelittlephoenixis playingnow" -Trickster

What else do I do in my free time? Check out my tumblr!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:09 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
njberry
Entrenched


Joined: 23 Aug 2012
Posts: 778
Location: southampton, england
inkflamewriter wrote:
Okay, I've got to admit, this game is cool and all and I'd love to participate fully, but the PM is starting to get on my nerves a bit. Yes, I did come in late. But they accepted my application, asked me what position I wanted, and then haven't spoken to me since, aside from some communication from Margaret Williams on skype.

As it stands now, I have no confirmation of what position I am taking. That being said, I'm not mad at the PM over this one, just...disappointed. It's not cool to make a player feel like they're getting left out.

I'll keep following along and helping with the puzzles as best I can, but there's not much else I can do until I hear something back from them. *shrug*


dont worry i sent an email to the unholy over a week ago and never got a reply,

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:50 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
bluesylvia
Unfettered


Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Posts: 369
Location: Chilly Colorado

 		^^^ Yeah, the PM is bad at replying to emails...

Speaking of which, I received a new email from Drust this morning:
Dusty Drust wrote:
Anemone, wysteria and Bells of Ireland

We expect you to have understood the assignment by now, if not, I would need to teach you..

Below are the teachings you need


we love to sing
we love to shout
but if the task is not finished
we all will be out

language makes sense
in whatever form
when read in succesion
and to the norm

stripes form to curves
curves form to more
take all things literaly
and you will learn lore

use mortal wits
and all falls in place
its been told before
his tales are just ace

When found what you need
in times of despair
think well where you go
earth, water or air

then using the link
been given before
add your results
and open the door

your code is the same
you will guess it well
a codephrase you gain
and continue you shall..

Drust


Which seems to me that we are still not fully grasping the trinity knot (and I suppose the trinity here represents "earth, water or air"). But I'm at a complete loss as to what it's supposed to all mean. Some of it may conform to Gaelic but I wonder if perhaps that is just a coincidence since not all of the words do (I'm looking at you, buissoinaiche!). Perhaps they are disguised in some other way?

Here are all the bits from Ogham to the Roman alphabet.
I have marked when there was a discrepancy between my answer and Tenshi's:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Within the circle:
Buissoinaiche
Mairbhe
Itheach

Within the trinity:
Mar
Fetheach / Fiteach
Hgus / Hgun
Each
As

Perhaps we need to keep in mind also what ogham lacks, namely J, K, P, V, W, X, Y. In the previous ogham puzzle they represented W with UU so other combos may be their way of creating other sounds.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:52 am
Last edited by bluesylvia on Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:20 am; edited 1 time in total
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Grimangel53
Veteran

Joined: 29 Apr 2013
Posts: 83
Location: The World at Large.

 		I really need to catch up. Im a mediator as well, and received the email from Drust.

Hi, Im the Bells of Ireland.

I need to catch up and figure out the code.
the email on the other hand is set in abcb rhyme scheme.
Morning Bluesylvia.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:19 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Tenshi Akui
Entrenched


Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Posts: 1003
Location: Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea

 		Yeah buissoinaiche was the one making it very difficult LOL

I'm at the point where I"m not sure what's next. I've poked it a few times but it still feels like we're missing something important.

Wish we could find some fresh eyes to poke at it.
_________________
Aconitum is In Defense of Summer
@TenshiAkui

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:22 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
bluesylvia
Unfettered


Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Posts: 369
Location: Chilly Colorado

 		I feel like it must be one of two things: it's either encrypted in some other way, or it's a made-up language. And I also can't shake off the nagging feeling that we're still missing a piece each time I stare at those blank spaces. As such, how I've been going about it is by trying to ignore the bits that are missing something still and focus on the two pieces that are complete, namely:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The circle's message of "buissoinaiche mairbhe itheach" and a portion of the trinity's message of "mar fetheach hgus" but it's all as Greek to me as anything else Dunno


And g'mornin', Grim!
_________________
Wisteria is a Mediator for In Defense of Summer

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:42 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
njberry
Entrenched


Joined: 23 Aug 2012
Posts: 778
Location: southampton, england

 		i take my earlier quote back, i now have an email back, hmmmm now how to reply. but yay they finally replied

Quote:
orange lily

all in due time, all in due time my child..

Tell me, what are your motives?
what drives you to contact me?

And above all, who would you sacrifice, when you get the choice.. would you sacrifice one of your own?

Steward


PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:03 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Elethamei
Unfettered


Joined: 31 Aug 2012
Posts: 448
Location: Finland

 		I got another email too about an hour ago.
Far Dorcha wrote:
A mortal? become pure? hmmm interesting thought, difficult, but maybe not impossible

we would need to look into that..

They're not in total denial anymore! \o/ Smile
_________________
@elethamei

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:02 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Necropolitan
Boot


Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 31
Location: Melbourne, FL
Quote:
then using the link
been given before
add your results
and open the door


Sorry I've been so dead guys, work has been killing me.
But could someone clarify for me what link Drust is talking about.. :/

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:20 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
bluesylvia
Unfettered


Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Posts: 369
Location: Chilly Colorado

 		I was equally puzzled by that! The only websites I know of are the two blogs (Holy and Unholy), the two Twitters (Holy and Unholy), and the Child's Ballads website. There are also the email addresses for Drust, White Rose, the Steward, and Margret Williams.
Does anyone know of any websites or "links" beyond these?
_________________
Wisteria is a Mediator for In Defense of Summer

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:25 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 19 of 25 [361 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: General » Old News & Rumors
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group