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Marble Hornets
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searchanddestroy wrote:
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I feel a huge post incoming, I think I figured out totheark's message


To sum it up quickly: takes control of people (making them do things against their will), and totheark is trying to figure out who he is presently posessing by pointing out unnecessary lies
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The reason hoods and masks are worn are bc the operator makes them do bad things and they don't want to be seen doing them. The person is in full control of their mind when the operator takes control of them, as in they can see everything he's doing through their own eyes, but are powerless to do anything about it.


Im confused about the whole proxy thing. If they're controlled by the operator (or caused by) why are they on jays side and against it? Is a proxy state just a defense mechanism? Has masky or hoody ever do TO's dirty work?


Because they're not always being controlled. Whenever somene blacks out, the operator is taking control of them. Hoody and masky have both done dirty work and know it. The pills prevent that takeover from happening, which allows hoody to help jay/tim

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Sha Noran
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Marble Hornets wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
I feel a huge post incoming, I think I figured out totheark's message


To sum it up quickly: takes control of people (making them do things against their will), and totheark is trying to figure out who he is presently posessing by pointing out unnecessary lies
.
The reason hoods and masks are worn are bc the operator makes them do bad things and they don't want to be seen doing them. The person is in full control of their mind when the operator takes control of them, as in they can see everything he's doing through their own eyes, but are powerless to do anything about it.


Im confused about the whole proxy thing. If they're controlled by the operator (or caused by) why are they on jays side and against it? Is a proxy state just a defense mechanism? Has masky or hoody ever do TO's dirty work?


Because they're not always being controlled. Whenever somene blacks out, the operator is taking control of them. Hoody and masky have both done dirty work and know it. The pills prevent that takeover from happening, which allows hoody to help jay/tim


So perhaps Hoody laughed in Alex's face in Entry #68 because he was sure Alex was not under the influence at that time? Is this because he has seen 64/65 and might assume the huge blank period of no tweet no nothing implies that they are "found" by The Operator during that time and thus his attention is diverted from Alex for the time being... Using Tim and/or Jay as proxies in your theory?

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Marble Hornets
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 		I always thought of it like this: The operator is still taking control of Alex, and hoody knows this. Hoody hesitates to pull the trigger because he knows Alex isn't entirely guilty, and is very well possibly one of his old friends. This hesitation allows the operator to intervene and save his "pet subject" from being murdered. Let's be real here, hoody could have pulled that trigger immediately. The only reason he didn't was because he felt sorry for Alex. And why feel sorry if Alex is truly evil? Even if they were old friends, if hoody knew concrete that Alex was behind everything and guilty, he wouldn't have hesitated.


It's also possible that Tim (in his masky state) realizes that the operator is inside alex as well, and this is why they want to kill alex so badly. Either that or he remembers alex hunting him from his masky state and just thinks Alex is the bad guy

We don't have enough info to go on at this point, but I have yet to see a concrete plot device that dismisses the theory. The totheark videos could all theoretically fit in with it as well, especially inquiry (you are you (totheark talking about himself) - but who are you? who are you? who are you? - this could represent that even though he knows who they are, he doesn't know if the operator is taking over them and making them do things, therefore not really themselves)


edit: that was another entry I was tlaking about lol (one of the hospital ones). You're talking about 68. Another idea for that one would be that the operator currently has control of him (after the incident from entry 65), and alex is now back to his old self, wants to find jay and tim to maybe save jay. either that, or once again, knows it's the operator and is laughing cause he can't find them (even though the operator finds them super quick... maybe the operator was possessing hoody at the time? i'll agree that this scenario is a little farfetch'd so we'll have to see)

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SpookyCron
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Marble Hornets wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
I feel a huge post incoming, I think I figured out totheark's message


To sum it up quickly: takes control of people (making them do things against their will), and totheark is trying to figure out who he is presently posessing by pointing out unnecessary lies
.
The reason hoods and masks are worn are bc the operator makes them do bad things and they don't want to be seen doing them. The person is in full control of their mind when the operator takes control of them, as in they can see everything he's doing through their own eyes, but are powerless to do anything about it.


Im confused about the whole proxy thing. If they're controlled by the operator (or caused by) why are they on jays side and against it? Is a proxy state just a defense mechanism? Has masky or hoody ever do TO's dirty work?


Because they're not always being controlled. Whenever somene blacks out, the operator is taking control of them. Hoody and masky have both done dirty work and know it. The pills prevent that takeover from happening, which allows hoody to help jay/tim


I dont buy into the whole pill thing. We dont know what they are actually doing to the person taking them, and they are always different. One time, they were taking painkillers. I can believe that whatever Tim's taking now stops him from blacking out. His docters have had time to work on his condition and have found a drug that works.

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SpookyCron wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
I feel a huge post incoming, I think I figured out totheark's message


To sum it up quickly: takes control of people (making them do things against their will), and totheark is trying to figure out who he is presently posessing by pointing out unnecessary lies
.
The reason hoods and masks are worn are bc the operator makes them do bad things and they don't want to be seen doing them. The person is in full control of their mind when the operator takes control of them, as in they can see everything he's doing through their own eyes, but are powerless to do anything about it.


Im confused about the whole proxy thing. If they're controlled by the operator (or caused by) why are they on jays side and against it? Is a proxy state just a defense mechanism? Has masky or hoody ever do TO's dirty work?


Because they're not always being controlled. Whenever somene blacks out, the operator is taking control of them. Hoody and masky have both done dirty work and know it. The pills prevent that takeover from happening, which allows hoody to help jay/tim


I dont buy into the whole pill thing. We dont know what they are actually doing to the person taking them, and they are always different. One time, they were taking painkillers. I can believe that whatever Tim's taking now stops him from blacking out. His docters have had time to work on his condition and have found a drug that works.


It's just a theory. But to counter, Tim did say the pills were the only reason Jay was remaining conscious, and they were able to counter the operator's effects when tim confronted him in a recent entry. The pills are not always different, and the series has never mentioned painkillers. Tim has been taking the same pills since season 1. They are doctor prescribed and he mentions this more than once (he says has been taking them for a while before meeting jay). Jay was taking basic ibuprofens in season 2, those pills were a clear cut red herring

Notice how in season 1 when Jay takes the pills from the house and then goes back to the house tim is there in his masky state? It was to show that without the pills that was what tim would become.

Having recently watched the killing, they mentioned that sleeping in a closet has to do with an immense feeling of unsafety and fear. This is probably why Tim slept in the closet in that house (or totheark)

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Marble Hornets wrote:
SpookyCron wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
I feel a huge post incoming, I think I figured out totheark's message


To sum it up quickly: takes control of people (making them do things against their will), and totheark is trying to figure out who he is presently posessing by pointing out unnecessary lies
.
The reason hoods and masks are worn are bc the operator makes them do bad things and they don't want to be seen doing them. The person is in full control of their mind when the operator takes control of them, as in they can see everything he's doing through their own eyes, but are powerless to do anything about it.


Im confused about the whole proxy thing. If they're controlled by the operator (or caused by) why are they on jays side and against it? Is a proxy state just a defense mechanism? Has masky or hoody ever do TO's dirty work?


Because they're not always being controlled. Whenever somene blacks out, the operator is taking control of them. Hoody and masky have both done dirty work and know it. The pills prevent that takeover from happening, which allows hoody to help jay/tim


I dont buy into the whole pill thing. We dont know what they are actually doing to the person taking them, and they are always different. One time, they were taking painkillers. I can believe that whatever Tim's taking now stops him from blacking out. His docters have had time to work on his condition and have found a drug that works.


It's just a theory. But to counter, Tim did say the pills were the only reason Jay was remaining conscious, and they were able to counter the operator's effects when tim confronted him in a recent entry. The pills are not always different, and the series has never mentioned painkillers. Tim has been taking the same pills since season 1. They are doctor prescribed and he mentions this more than once (he says has been taking them for a while before meeting jay). Jay was taking basic ibuprofens in season 2, those pills were a clear cut red herring

Notice how in season 1 when Jay takes the pills from the house and then goes back to the house tim is there in his masky state? It was to show that without the pills that was what tim would become.

Having recently watched the killing, they mentioned that sleeping in a closet has to do with an immense feeling of unsafety and fear. This is probably why Tim slept in the closet in that house (or totheark)


That shed's a bit more light on the whole thing. Being that Im new to the series, I sort of sped through the entries. Its grey to me now, but I remember a few different pills.

Anyway, Im pretty sure Masky deprived of pills checks out, and I think that that's whats happening to Hoodie right now.

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 		I don't believe that the Operator is taking control of anyone. I think everyone's actions are being done of their own accord, though they might not be sane when taking them.
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Sha Noran
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Beidah wrote:
I don't believe that the Operator is taking control of anyone. I think everyone's actions are being done of their own accord, though they might not be sane when taking them.


This is where my head's at. The Operator's proximity makes them black out, causing panic and confusion and preventing them from remembering the events later. This is caused by a TO EMP effect which is countered by the anti-seizure meds. Long term exposure basically drives a person insane for basically obvious reasons, in addition to the sickness... But I think the sickness is actually caused by The Operator teleporting people into drowning scenarios and possibly long term exposure in the wilderness.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Beidah wrote:
I don't believe that the Operator is taking control of anyone. I think everyone's actions are being done of their own accord, though they might not be sane when taking them.


This is where my head's at. The Operator's proximity makes them black out, causing panic and confusion and preventing them from remembering the events later. This is caused by a TO EMP effect which is countered by the anti-seizure need. Long term exposure basically drives a person in sane for basically obvious reasons, in addition to the sickness... But I think the sickness is actually caused by The Operator teleporting people into drowning scenarios and possibly long term exposure in the wilderness.

I agree with pretty much this.
There isn't much evidence that points to The Operator possessing people.
And why should he? His mere presence is enough to mess up others.
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 		So I was looking through the spectograph and at the bit where it "farts" i found this.

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So I was looking through the spectograph and at the bit where it "farts" i found this.

Let's Play: PARADOLIA OR HIDDEN FACE!
I say actual face

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 		Entry #28 has Jay opening a bottle of painkillers/ibuprofen, probably bought for the headaches associated with slender-sickness, so that's probably the pills SpookyCron was thinking of.

Can you please make that link to a bigger picture toclafane212? It looks like a face but it's hard to tell.

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elford wrote:
Entry #28 has Jay opening a bottle of painkillers/ibuprofen, probably bought for the headaches associated with slender-sickness, so that's probably the pills SpookyCron was thinking of.

Can you please make that link to a bigger picture toclafane212? It looks like a face but it's hard to tell.


ibuprofen are not pain killers. they're pretty much tylenol

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Marble Hornets wrote:
elford wrote:
Entry #28 has Jay opening a bottle of painkillers/ibuprofen, probably bought for the headaches associated with slender-sickness, so that's probably the pills SpookyCron was thinking of.

Can you please make that link to a bigger picture toclafane212? It looks like a face but it's hard to tell.


ibuprofen are not pain killers. they're pretty much tylenol

Tylenol is acedomenofen. Or however it's spelled.
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