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Do you believe that Alex is a victim?
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Jordan
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 		Do you believe that Alex is a victim?
Hey everyone,

So: Alex? That guy with glasses with occasional blood on his hands? Do you think that he is a victim of The Operator's influence or has had far more agency then what we've been led to believe?

My gut feeling has always been that Alex IS a victim and that any suggestions to the contary in the past or in the future will be the result of an evil quadrible bluff on Troseph's part. Yes, the series has been leading us down this direction for quite sometime now which has made us incredibly suspicious of it, but my gut feeling is that this actually is and that Alex is very much a vicitim.

Yes, he tried to shoot Jay and Jessica, but it's enterily possible that he wanted Jay and Jessica not to suffer from what The Operator would make him do later to them or to eventurally detoriate mentally like Hoody and Masky from The Operator's influence rather then trying to hide his Slender activities from Amy. Yes, he killed Bruce, but he did warn Bruce profusely beforehand to leave - and it's possible that his aggression was the result of fighting The Operator's influence (and we've seen him try to fight off The Operator's influence in Entry #35)

Yes, Hoody very much sees - but either he doesn't have the entire story and believes Alex did what he did of his own violation or just needs someone to blame for what happened.



Yes in entry #72, Alex's behaviour was incredibly aggressive but it could just be the result of Alex trying to make sense of what and his own sense of failure in failing to comply with The Operator's demand, rather then evil psycho possessive boyfriend. (Also whoever posted the theory about entry #73 about Amy being in the attic, augh! NIGHTMARE FUEL! NIGHTMARE FUEL FOREVER!)

...or alternativily, he heard what Jay and the others were saying about the movie behind his back and made a deal with satanaic forces. Whatever works Smile

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 		Given his actions I'm inclined to believe he still has good inside of him and truly wants to be free of his shackles/help jay and tim, but can't because the operator is always watching him.

I don't buy into the whole "he was stalked since he was a kid" theory and I think he only is involved because of Tim

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FalloutGhoul
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 		I think that Alex is a victim, but to an extent.
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Geneaux486
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 		I think he's a victim in the sense that he was a normal guy before the Operator messed up his mind-guts.

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 		I think that Alex is a victim, but I don't think he's a good guy.

I think he's willing to do anything possible for him to escape this thing alive, even if that means removing others from the picture.

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Bishmanrock wrote:
I think that Alex is a victim, but I don't think he's a good guy.

I think he's willing to do anything possible for him to escape this thing alive, even if that means removing others from the picture.


^^^This. Alex may be a victim in that he did not choose to become involved in this mess with the Operator, but he's willing to sacrifice others to save himself. I'm a fan of The Walking Dead, and in my head I kind of compare Alex to the Governor. I believe that, like the Governor, Alex has been less-than-a-good-guy all his life. However, because he was never in a position of danger or desperation, it didn't show. The Operator, like a zombie apocalypse, has the tendency to bring out the worst in people by putting them in a stressful, perilous situation.

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On a slightly-OT note, mainly due to his character flaws and his newfound insanity, Jay reminds me of Rick. A lot. Laughing


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Lheai
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CenturyChild wrote:
Alex may be a victim in that he did not choose to become involved in this mess with the Operator, but he's willing to sacrifice others to save himself.

I agree-- I think that the Operator started it by stalking Alex, and either A) he figured out some way to communicate with it/him and struck up a deal to get it/him off his back, or B) the Operator drove him completely insane and Alex has no control over his actions, but is dangerous and a "bad guy" nonetheless (unless there's some way to negate the Operator's influence on Alex, e.g. with the pills. Of course, *if* it was Alex in the house in Entry 73, he may already be taking the pills-- but I think it was Jay, myself).

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 		He's a victim in the way John Wayne Gacy was a victim-- he was abused or tormented by something from a young age and it made him a monster.

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CraicIsMighty
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 		I'm actually not sure. I think it's true that if Alex had never encountered the Operator he wouldn't be a murderer, but does that necessarily make him a victim? We don't really know the nature of his relationship with TO at this point. Rather than being master and puppet they could be more like partners. Alex could have some sort of deal with it and killing people is his end of the bargain. I think it's more likely that Alex was twisted by TO but I'm not sure he was really all that good of a guy to begin with.

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Geneaux486
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 		Really, this should be a poll, with the choices being "Yes" and "I didn't watch the series".

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Beidah
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 		I think Alex sees himself as a victim, but the way he's handle The Operator compared to the way Tim and Jay have makes him a villain. He probably would've been a normal, decent guy had he not been stalked by some sort of humanoid abomination.
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Timmy
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Bishmanrock wrote:
I think that Alex is a victim, but I don't think he's a good guy.

I think he's willing to do anything possible for him to escape this thing alive, even if that means removing others from the picture.


I really agree with that, possibly Alex must remove these people and he will be freed.

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Enzd
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Timmy wrote:
Bishmanrock wrote:
I think that Alex is a victim, but I don't think he's a good guy.

I think he's willing to do anything possible for him to escape this thing alive, even if that means removing others from the picture.


I really agree with that, possibly Alex must remove these people and he will be freed.


Or so he believes...

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Beidah
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Enzd wrote:
Timmy wrote:
Bishmanrock wrote:
I think that Alex is a victim, but I don't think he's a good guy.

I think he's willing to do anything possible for him to escape this thing alive, even if that means removing others from the picture.


I really agree with that, possibly Alex must remove these people and he will be freed.


Or so he believes...


It seemed to work the first time, til Jay came back and cocked everything.
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