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[VIDEO] Entry #75
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The Happy Madman
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Tim has the password for the Youtube and Twitter accounts, right? What if the next entry is a recording of Tim, directed towards Jay, explaining why he tried to hide it from him?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:24 pm

chaoswinter
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The Happy Madman wrote:

Tim has the password for the Youtube and Twitter accounts, right? What if the next entry is a recording of Tim, directed towards Jay, explaining why he tried to hide it from him?

That thought has crossed my mind, I think if not a message for Jay a message for all of us to clear the air and his name. Tim seems like the only one that is remotely trustworthy especially after all he's done for Jay recently

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:53 pm

Craig Digsby
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The Happy Madman wrote:

Tim has the password for the Youtube and Twitter accounts, right? What if the next entry is a recording of Tim, directed towards Jay, explaining why he tried to hide it from him?

I'm sure we'll find out why Tim didn't want the footage on the tape to be seen when we actually see it. Also, Jay's smart enough to change the password to the accounts before Tim can get to them.

CenturyChild wrote:

Ristar wrote:

You people have REALLY short memories, Troy said clearly that Hoody had to be performed by different people, this means we are just trying to figuer out who Hoody is based on the actions or clues they give us. (This means hight and body build/shape is not taken into account, stop).

With that criteria we should asume there are 8 different operators since they seem different height/build or sometimes they seem edited in.

I'm surprised how no one mentions the entry where Alex finds Hoody, WITHOUT HIS HOOD, and says ''Wipe that stupid smile off your face''. In that entry aswell we get a frame with someone's face in it after Hoody takes off his hood. I'm not saying the person on that frame is Hoody but that's a clue, that's something they wanted us to see and interpretate, we can theorize that Hoody is the one on that frame if we want to.

Unless there is a detail they want us to pick up about Hoody, something like clothing for example, they would've hinted it.

I write this wall of text cause in every single entry where Hoody makes it's appereance someone jumps and says ''It's too tall'' or ''It's too short'' to be Hoody

This isn't an issue with my memory. I KNOW what Troy said about stand-ins. I'm just saying that, in general, using a male stand-in for a female character (or vice versa) is poor execution and not something I'd expect from them. This isn't about analyzing his height, it's about whether or not he's a man or a woman. There is a HUGE aesthetic difference between a man's body and a woman's body. It's really, really obvious. If Hoody had breasts and the "hourglass figure" and was later revealed as a man, it would look kind of silly because it wouldn't be believable at all.

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CenturyChild wrote:

2) Really? Pointing out what is either a subtle hint or significant flaw that many others have also pointed out makes me stupid? Then I guess several other people on these forums are stupid too, huh? Classy. And by the way, it's "irks" and "beginning". Typos happen to everyone, myself included. But don't go insulting my intelligence if you can't even bother to proofread your own posts.

At no point i critiziced someone's typos, hell, english is not even my main language, but if you can understand what someone says even if it has a typo then u don't make a big deal out of it.

You missed my point. I normally couldn't care less about typos, and I respect anyone who goes through the trouble of learning another language (having attempted to do so myself). What I'm saying is that calling someone "stupid" for having a different opinion makes about as much sense as making fun of someone for a few misspellings. It's rude, totally uncalled for, and carries no logical weight in any discussion.

In case you skimmed all of that: I'm not mad about typos. I'm mad that you insinuated that I am stupid for making a point that could potentially be correct. (I could be wrong, too, but we don't know for sure.)

Just sitting around arguing isn't going to get us anywhere. We need to figure out some kind of a theory; otherwise, we're going to keep runnin' in circles, like we've been doing for twenty-one pages!
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:54 pm

Ristar
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Craig Digsby wrote:

Want a theory? The tape won't tell us who TTA/Hoody is, that's gonna be for the finale like he is going to be standing in front of Jay then a 5 min slow-mo begins while Hoody is taking his hood off while hundreds of Youtubers orgasm at the same time when they realise their theories were right, instantly logging into this place and making 3000 threads celebrating while they forgot the video wasn't even done.

Hoody is the one whose distorted face appears when he takes his hood off several entries back (Brain or Seth, that never got solved)

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:59 pm

CenturyChild
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Yuki wrote:

How is it poor execution? They've specifically stated that they do it to keep people from guessing who it is--it just makes it even more difficult.

Not to mention that not all women have an hourglass figure, or even that big of an "aesthetic difference". Plus, bulky hoodies and mens' jeans, as Hoody wears, can REALLY obscure the kind of body beneath them, male or female.

There's a difference between a carefully-concealed plot twist and an out-of-the-blue surprise. It wouldn't look like they were trying to fool us; it would look like a major continuity error.

Being a woman myself, I can tell you that there's still a clear difference between women and men. You don't have to look like Marilyn Monroe (and, in fact, most of us don't). Thin, average-sized, and "larger" (as I often describe myself) girls all still have clearly effeminate figures, even if they're not as curvy as a chick in an ad from the 1950s. In addition, women have a different gait, we stand differently, etc. We have a completely different skeletal structure. In addition, I've also worn men's clothing on numerous occasions (because unfortunately, metal band tees are most often sold in men's sizes). You can still tell the difference.

But whatever. My point is that it would be a cheap surprise method if MH did things that way, or used a different gender stand-in for that reason (for any reason, but especially just to throw audiences off). If you have to use gender confusion to throw your audience off, then your plot needs more work. I suppose it's not impossible, but I'd be extremely disappointed.

The Happy Madman wrote:

Tim has the password for the Youtube and Twitter accounts, right? What if the next entry is a recording of Tim, directed towards Jay, explaining why he tried to hide it from him?

Hm...well, he has the Twitter password, but I don't know about YouTube. It's plausible that Jay could have uploaded #74. Then again, it's also possible that Tim uploaded #74, Jay got teleported or for some other reason lost his camera after their confrontation, and Tim uploaded #75.

But, for the record, I love the idea.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:00 pm

Craig Digsby
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Ristar wrote:

Craig Digsby wrote:

And here I am just hoping you got the reference.
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:04 pm

CenturyChild
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Craig Digsby wrote:

Ristar wrote:

Craig Digsby wrote:

And here I am just hoping you got the reference.
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Crap, I was just gonna comment on that. I instinctively read it in his voice too. XD

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:05 pm

chaoswinter
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Ristar wrote:

Hoody is the one whose distorted face appears when he takes his hood off several entries back (Brain or Seth, that never got solved)

I don't think we ever saw anything definitive to suggest that Seth is gone. Brian on the other hand we clearly see being dragged away at the end of Entry #51, so as far as that goes he's gone. Not to mention his name was crossed off that page they [Tim & Jay] found in Alex's old house. He was brought out there by Alex in order to tie up a loose end.

If we continue to go on the whole "body build" theory for who the identity of Hoodie is it leaves it as Seth. If we ignore that Seth could still very well be an answer.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:06 pm

ReeseSparrow
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Basically, either Tim's explanation was maliciously contrived, or he legitimately thinks Jay can't handle knowing something one of them did, or what happened to someone, but I'm a little more trusting of Jay because he had a reasonable reaction to having something hid from him. He reacted to a situation by getting emotional, which is normal, Tim on the other hand, didn't immediately flare up like he has before, which is a hallmark of lying/acting. You can fake how you would react to a situation, but people who are lying/acting to fool someone typically fail to react to something spontaneous, which leads me to believe that Tim was doing this maliciously. Then again, I also want to believe in the Jay/Tim dream team that has been so long in the making.

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:10 pm

CenturyChild
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chaoswinter wrote:

Ristar wrote:

Hoody is the one whose distorted face appears when he takes his hood off several entries back (Brain or Seth, that never got solved)

I don't assume that either are dead. I mean, wasn't Tim abducted by the Operator in #64/65? He made it out of that ordeal alive. And he was also in that room with Brian in the scene right before Brian was dragged away. Again, made it out alive.

Yeah, he could be dead. But Seth could be dead too. Or they could both be alive. It's not very certain for either of them. The only reason I say Brian is that the idea that he was close with Tim provides a reason that he could be angry at Tim (maybe something happened between them?), which would explain his obsession with Tim and the secrets he's trying to keep. (Who else would know about these "secrets" but a close friend?)

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:13 pm

Janthran
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PLOT TWIST! There is no "Masky" state- Tim knows everything and he is a liar.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:14 pm

chaoswinter
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CenturyChild wrote:

chaoswinter wrote:

Ristar wrote:

Hoody is the one whose distorted face appears when he takes his hood off several entries back (Brain or Seth, that never got solved)

I just sort of found it strange that they showed off Brian being dragged away yet never showed anything of Seth's disappearance. This is the first moment where Alex was making extra sure he got rid of someone and was showing it off. Maybe that also could be taken as a hint that Brian could very well be alive and was being dragged out by Tim.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:15 pm

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CenturyChild wrote:

Yuki wrote:

I totally agree with you. I'm also a girl and I've worn male clothes too (metal band t-shirts too, yeah. And also hoodies) and the difference is noticeable. Even wearing clothes like the ones Hoody wear, there where different (imaginary) lines in the body that might tell us that person is female. I play pretty close attention to bodies and anatomy because I've been drawing and painting for years, so I use to analize people's bodies as a kind of exercise and I can tell for sure, that even more "skiny" girls (I don't know if it is correct to say that, but I mean girls with smaller breasts and waists) produce a different silhouette than the one a man have.

If Hoody's character was meant to be a girl, they would have him to be played with an actress at least ONCE in the whole series, because they are people who care about detail and if all the bodies that have at least once performed Hoody have been male, the reveal to be a girl would, not only unexpected, but as unbeliable as it turned out to be a bear.
The fact of them using different actors to play him makes us impossible to know who exactly Hoody is, but I think, within a limit of believable options.

Of course all of this is my own opinion, and I can be wrong and I am no one to "force" nobody to change their minds only because I don't agree with them, but I think what I stated before is pretty coherent, and in Marble Hornets usually happen unexpected and supernatural things, but always within a coherence and a well planed and detailed plot.

P.S: For me is a pitty there are no really significant female characters (in action, at least) in MH, but my desire of having a badass girl in the series is not enough to make me think that Hoody may be a girl.

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:42 pm

FalloutGhoul
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Ristar wrote:

Hoody is the one whose distorted face appears when he takes his hood off several entries back (Brain or Seth, that never got solved)

Could we see said distorted face?

Janthran wrote:

PLOT TWIST! There is no "Masky" state- Tim knows everything and he is a liar.

That won't work, because when Tim was in his "Masky" state several entries ago, he was still acting like his leg was messed up, which happened back in Season 2. Neutral

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:16 pm

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Sha Noran wrote:

A shit load of time loops where Jay is Hoody would be impressive storytelling if they managed to elegantly explain or show it, but I just doubt that. Why would future Jay time travel back just to fuck himself over? Not gonna be it.

He what now? TTA has constantly been pushing Jay in the right direction. Convince me otherwise. Good luck.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:18 pm

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