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[VIDEO] Entry #75
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Ark is watching
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"Timezones", TTA + MH relationship and other stuff.

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I used to think this was a cool idea when I first started Season 3, but I feel like the lie would be far too elaborate for Tim to have realistically pulled it off this well. In light of this latest entry, who knows, but I feel like no one could be that convincing and not slip up for such a long time (keeping in mind Jay and Tim first allied nearly a year ago now and probably have talked a lot off camera).


Agreed here. The idea that everything that masky did was Tim would be too implausible, because as said they have allied for over a year now and in that time Tim would have slipped up, mentioning events he shouldn't remember etc.

There is a chance that Tim can remember some very specific events, which could very easily be an explanation for Conversion's message around "liars". These events might be either harrowing, incriminating or borderline nonsensical without the context or other information to place it that Jay or even Tim might lack currently have.

These events may be on the tape Jay stole, which would in a way explain why Tim didn't want Jay to see it, as they needed to figure out the missing link before the Tape would make sense to either, and in its current unconnected state, it might incriminate Tim or horrify Jay. Tim wants Jay to see it in the correct context with a clear mind, both of which Jay (in his semi comatose state) lacks.

One thing I've always wondered, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt MH time and real time in sync with each other (or so I've been told)?

If so if Tim and Jay left to go to the house the day after Entry #74, then isn't Conversion an extremely late warning (making the warning about 8 days after Jay finds out that Tim hid the tape) if it points to Tim being a liar.

Maybe (and I'm aware that this boarders on being in the wrong topic) Conversion wasn't a warning about Tim being a liar, but TTA compelling Jay to think rationally and really question if Tim's deceit was really malevolent in nature.

Remember TTA isn't completely against Tim, for one they (Masky and TTA) worked to take down Alex in an entry, and TTA even saved Tim from Alex in the hospital entry, not to mention a couple TTA responses (the one with Tim's outburst at Jay from entry #59 and the video telling Jay that he abandoned Tim) so its not completely unlikely.

Maybe this will be addressed in the next Entry, then again, maybe not. Que Sera Sera.

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TheJoker
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One idea I had a while back that I sorta liked (though it's not exactly likely) was that Masky isn't as animalistic as we've been led to believe, and while Tim doesn't remember anything he does as Masky, Masky remembers everything he does as Tim and can do an excellent job of pretending to be his other self.

Is there anything supporting this whatsoever? Nope. But it was a random idea I had, and it could be interesting if the Tim we've been seeing all season has sometimes been himself and sometimes not.

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lanky78
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 I am your father lu... er Jay

First post. Been watching from the first video and have a wild theory that has popped into my head since this entry. Just thinking outside the box here but do we know much about Jay's past? Jay is forgetting what he did before MH and he hasn't really seen any family since this started so I assume he isn't close or they they are not around anymore.

What if he used to be a patient at the hospital rather than live at home but has no recollection of it due to severe OP exposure?

The tape could make this revelation which would bring it all back to Jay (similar to how it was for Tim?) Making him flip out. It would tie in with the comment about the tape ruining everything they have worked towards, maybe 'they' have been trying to get Jay ready to face his past as he has the potential to stop the operator.

Maybe Alex has been forced by OP to bring Jay, or anyone else who was connected to the hospital back to him (including Tim and Hoody). Alternatively maybe Tim knows him from the hospital and has been protecting him from the truth (is a liar) until he is prepared to face the OP again.

Perhaps all of the cast had some previous link to the operator and he is manipulating everyone to get them together for some unknown purpose.

I know this is really out there but it would make an interesting twist and bring all the characters together neatly for a final showdown.

Maybe the operator is his father (OK that's maybe taking it a bit far! Wink

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PsychoHippie
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Lytrigian wrote:

It took about 5 seconds searching for images in Google to confirm that yes, you do get reflections with night vision. Which should come as no surprise: even night vision is done by shining a light on an object which reflects back to the camera. Only, it's infrared light, which is invisible to the eye.

Precisely.

Ark is watching wrote:
On one hand, if he isn't blind, Masky should have had some impression that he could see some silhouette. When you spend a while in the dark with no light, your eyes can become sensitive to compensate and allowing for some degree of night vision. On top of this after spending several minutes in the dark you can usually see lighter colours in the night as they reflect any glimmer of light from other sources (eg. moon).


Masky's eyes were still adjusting to Jay's turning off of his flashlight. When that was done, though, he was right on Jay.

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SilentMedusa
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TheJoker wrote:
One idea I had a while back that I sorta liked (though it's not exactly likely) was that Masky isn't as animalistic as we've been led to believe, and while Tim doesn't remember anything he does as Masky, Masky remembers everything he does as Tim and can do an excellent job of pretending to be his other self.

Is there anything supporting this whatsoever? Nope. But it was a random idea I had, and it could be interesting if the Tim we've been seeing all season has sometimes been himself and sometimes not.


My god, that would be absolutely chilling.

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Sha Noran
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I still think all of this will tie back to the filming of the bad student film Marble Hornets. Something during the filming of that went terribly wrong and caused all of this. One of the guys may have been the cause... Wait which Entry is it where they are practicing their lines and TO is right outside the window behind Tim? I think its the Entry where Alex says Brian went to "get some snacks"... Jay, Tim and Alex are there, and I seem to remember some discussion about some of them being cold, but 1 of them isn't... given TO's connection with fire, perhaps the person who isn't feeling cold has TO's attention?

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Craig Digsby
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That would be Entry #17. I hope that entry will be addressed. I want to know if the Operator caused Jay to feel cold (which he probably did).
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OllieRaiden
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[quote="PsychoHippie"]
Lytrigian wrote:

Ark is watching wrote:
On one hand, if he isn't blind, Masky should have had some impression that he could see some silhouette. When you spend a while in the dark with no light, your eyes can become sensitive to compensate and allowing for some degree of night vision. On top of this after spending several minutes in the dark you can usually see lighter colours in the night as they reflect any glimmer of light from other sources (eg. moon).


Masky's eyes were still adjusting to Jay's turning off of his flashlight. When that was done, though, he was right on Jay.


On top of this I imagine the mask would restrict his vision somewhat, wouldn't it?

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The Happy Madman
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Not really. I have a mask just like it, and it doesn't impair my vision nearly as much as you would think.

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Mr Digsby, your animated now! I wasn't prepared for that...

Anyways, on the whole Masky being Tim same identity thing. I'm gonna go ahead and say I don't agree with this theory. Except for random bouts of convulsions, near transformations and the recent entry, Tim has been pretty level headed thus far. If something was going on with Tim off camera, Jay would have said something in his twitter. I doubt Tim would bother to check his twitter on a regular basis, since they share most information anyways. I trust Tim. I don't trust Masky. But would it be weird to say, that I've always trusted TTA? TTA seems to be third party. Almost at times wanting to help Jay, or point him towards some direction (obvious pun dis-regarding).

The eyeholes of his mask are pretty wide. They reveal his painted cheek bones even. I think Masky can see pretty well from that mask. I bet Masky can see just fine in the dark. He's just messing with Jay for kicks.

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Amethyst.64
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I think that masky is some sort of guardian angel, he appeared early on and was hostile in order to try and scare jay away as he knew TO was stalking him. He burnt down Jay's apartment in order to fake his death to get TO off the trail, then Alex roped Jay back in with the Amy abduction video (this theory says that was staged by Alex to hook Jay again) other than that Masky has protected Jay ie stopping Alex from shooting him. I wish this idea could explaining masky guiding Jay to the tunnel, I believe that's the only appearance that doesn't seem to be protecting/ scaring him.
All of this is just speculation obviously, but I'm pretty sure masky is at least as trustworthy, if not more, than Tim.

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ledzepfilm
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I don't think he's doing it for kicks. There must be some motive behind it, but I have no idea what it is.

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Beidah
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I think Masky acts hostile because exposure to the Operator causes anger and aggression. This can be seen in Alex, Jay, Masky and even a little bit in Hoody. It might be a conscious thing the Operator does, if you can describe anything about It as conscious, in order to keep allies from forming and acting against It.
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The Happy Madman
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Amethyst.64 wrote:
I think that masky is some sort of guardian angel, he appeared early on and was hostile in order to try and scare jay away as he knew TO was stalking him. He burnt down Jay's apartment in order to fake his death to get TO off the trail, then Alex roped Jay back in with the Amy abduction video (this theory says that was staged by Alex to hook Jay again) other than that Masky has protected Jay ie stopping Alex from shooting him. I wish this idea could explaining masky guiding Jay to the tunnel, I believe that's the only appearance that doesn't seem to be protecting/ scaring him.
All of this is just speculation obviously, but I'm pretty sure masky is at least as trustworthy, if not more, than Tim.


Don't forget that Masky attacked Jay in Entry 62. I don't think he had any good intentions for Jay at the time.

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The Happy Madman wrote:
Don't forget that Masky attacked Jay in Entry 62. I don't think he had any good intentions for Jay at the time.

The very first time we saw Masky in Entry 18 he attacked Jay. He appeared mysteriously in Jay's room in Entry 19, as Jay disappeared. And then at the beginning of Season 2, Jessica disappeared and Masky popped out of her room and... attacked Jay. But in the timeline, this wasn't all that long after he *saved* Jessica and Jay from Alex.

So I have no idea what's going on with Tim, or what his aims are either as himself or Maksy, or if he had anything at all with Jessica's vanishing as he appeared to at the time. I'm just going to have to wait and find out.

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