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Amethyst.64
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UnQuantifiable wrote:
Don't forget Entry #12. Almost if not all the MH cast members encountered The Operator in that park area during the filming. They saw him and thought he was some weirdo who was watching them. Actually asking him to go away lol. Alex and everyone were all pretty calm and mellow in his presence (no sickness, yelling, undue violence or outbursts). Could this be the first time they all saw The Operator (unless Alex is all, oh jeeze this guy again, better pretend like I never saw him infront of the others)?


I somehow doubt we're gonna get it, but I would really like to see what happened immediately after entry #12

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Lithp
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I don't know, I'm pretty sure they've said that's actually incredibly important to the series overall.

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Amethyst.64
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That's awesome then Smile the big questions from S1 for me are that, Alex's blood in #14 and the teleporting doors stuff

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
Alex's blood in #14


It was probably intended as being due to the Operator, but I don't think they will go back to it. There are more important things to clear up than something intended to scare us.
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Amethyst.64
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TO hasn't really caused physical harm to anyone directly that we know of. I do somewhat agree maybe OOG the rule of creepy will come into play. I'll just assume Alex did it to himself (for some reason) then forgot, unless they do address that entry directly.

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Lithp said:

I prefer it when people are honest with their own theories, rather than trying to portray some far-reaching scenario as MAKIN PERFECT SENS GAIZ.

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Disclaimer: No one's actually said that. Probably. It is a comedic over-exaggeration. Amusement not guaranteed. This post is not liable for any sense of annoyance &/or pointlessness perceived by the reader.


I was actually referring more to the fact that I'm making myself look like I don't take any time to actually think about what I'm posting before I hit the button. And possibly wasting other people's time with an easily dis-proven idea, theory, etc.

Can you tell I'm new to this 'code' business? Smile

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Craig Digsby wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
Alex's blood in #14


It was probably intended as being due to the Operator, but I don't think they will go back to it. There are more important things to clear up than something intended to scare us.
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My personal favorite theory on the matter, in light of the events of S2 and 3, is that it wasn't TO who did that. Rather, that was the day Alex finally gave in and joined TO, and that blood wasn't his own, but that of his first kill (ignoring the rather illogical manner in which it was splattered on his face. I don't think anyone really bleeds like that.)

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TheJoker wrote:
Craig Digsby wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
Alex's blood in #14


It was probably intended as being due to the Operator, but I don't think they will go back to it. There are more important things to clear up than something intended to scare us.
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My personal favorite theory on the matter, in light of the events of S2 and 3, is that it wasn't TO who did that. Rather, that was the day Alex finally gave in and joined TO, and that blood wasn't his own, but that of his first kill (ignoring the rather illogical manner in which it was splattered on his face. I don't think anyone really bleeds like that.)



It's most likely what they wanted to use to explain the sickness but later decided to scrap it and just have them cough up blood. I think a lot of things from s1 are scrapped ideas (others will say we have no reason to think this unless they say so, but the fact that they haven't gone back to these things by now just implies they scrapped them)

The bullet casing is also something I think we'll never get an explanation to, as is the crumpled up paper/sleeping in the closet.

The best I can explain

Bullet casing - someone's attempt at trying to kill the operator and failing (no blood stains or bullet holes nearby)

Crumpled up paper - a trap set to be able to tell if the operator is lurking around

Sleeping in the closet - has to do with the feeling of fear, and how sleeping in an enclosed area not out in the open will make someone feel a little safer.

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See, while I can't speak for the whole forum, my issue isn't with the concept that they may have scrapped ideas from Season 1 or that there may be things that won't ever be explained because they were connected to said scrapped ideas. I only have a problem (and this isn't directed at anyone here in particular right now) when people claim that because they haven't been addressed in a while, they are "no longer canon" and shouldn't be speculated on or incorporated into theories. They still happened in the MH canon. We may never find out why, but they haven't suddenly vanished from history.

So yeah, I agree with you that a lot of things could be from scrapped ideas and/or may never be explained, bloody face and bullet casing among them. That said...

We all saw that the static hole from near the Tower came back out of nowhere years after the fact. The idea that they may still bring back early ideas that haven't been touched on in some time, or that they may incorporate something into a plot point different than its original intention, is clearly not unreasonable.

There may be some plot points they've actually planned since near the beginning yet to fully pay off (though I doubt it since they said they basically made up S1 as they went along.) There may be some plot points they scrapped that they later decide to bring back. There may be some things that become plot points or Chekov's Guns or whatever that were originally intended for something different or weren't supposed to be significant at all. For instance, something like the bloody face (which was probably originally meant to be TO's doing because I don't think they had planned Alex to be evil that early in the series) might be rewritten into the plot and explained.

Basically what I'm saying is, a little speculation can't hurt, and after the static hole thing, I'd say everything from S1 is fair game to revisit or explain at some point, even if they hadn't planned it that way from the start.

In any case, I care more about them explaining Return. They'd freaking better explain that. And if they never explain it differently or contradict it, my personal headcanon will be that the blood is from Alex's first kill.

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Bullet Casing: Are we forgetting that Alex DOES have a gun? He probably kept it around after "test shooting it" or something and forgot to throw it away, or was going to keep it around just for fun as a souvenir. Kinda makes me wonder though, how long did he have that gun? Did he always have it for saftey or possibly after the MH filming?

Crumpled up paper: I don't think they would work on the Operator. He would either "glide" or teleport around them if he wanted to sneak up on Alex. And the paper is just him going a bit crazy. I'm guessing the Operator affects different people in different ways. We never saw Jay drawing that ravenously.

Sleeping in the Closet: I can actually agree with that one. If you sleep in a closet, The Operator can't really sneak up on you or anything, especially if you keep the closet locked. I suppose the Operator would turn you agoraphobic with wide open spaces really fast. My closet is big though dangit!

The Blood: I personally think it's Alex's own blood. He cough's it up in his sleep, and it gets on his face. Wiping up in his sleep and probably stroking his hair too, thus appearing on his face like that.

As for Return, yeah, that really needs some answers.
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Except when he woke up he wasn't bloody, and the text indicates he left the room for several hours during which nothing happened on camera (hence why this part isn't shown in the entry) and returned with his face bloody much later in the tape.

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Amethyst.64
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TheJoker wrote:

My personal favorite theory on the matter, in light of the events of S2 and 3, is that it wasn't TO who did that. Rather, that was the day Alex finally gave in and joined TO, and that blood wasn't his own, but that of his first kill (ignoring the rather illogical manner in which it was splattered on his face. I don't think anyone really bleeds like that.)


I like this actually, fits nicely with Alex selected tapes to make him look like a victim too Smile

I believe the bullet casing was possibly just foreshadowing Alex's gun? Maybe.

Blood in the sink - Still relevant? Any ideas?

Thing is with 'scrapping ideas.' If we assume they're doing this then they could easily scrap good things (like return) so I'd rather think everything is relevant.

Can't help thinking there would be a better thread for all these points...

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
UnQuantifiable wrote:
Don't forget Entry #12. Almost if not all the MH cast members encountered The Operator in that park area during the filming. They saw him and thought he was some weirdo who was watching them. Actually asking him to go away lol. Alex and everyone were all pretty calm and mellow in his presence (no sickness, yelling, undue violence or outbursts). Could this be the first time they all saw The Operator (unless Alex is all, oh jeeze this guy again, better pretend like I never saw him infront of the others)?


I somehow doubt we're gonna get it, but I would really like to see what happened immediately after entry #12


Could that be... THE TAPE!?!?!?!?

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that would make sense with the TTA video that held the message, "there was more"

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The Condor
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Wait, in Entry 52, Jay practically hugged TO and he only suffered 7month memory loss.

So why is he currently having heavier symptoms?
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