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Haunted Camera and totheark
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wassupbro
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Haunted Camera and totheark

Ok, guys, bear with me on this one, but...BUT

what if, what if Alex's camera is somehow possessed. What if it somehow summons the operator. What if, what if Alex knew about this, or somehow made a deal with the operator to summon him with this camera. What if whenever its on, the operator shows up. Like I said, bear with me.

Entry 22: Seth is using this camera and the operator appears.

Entry 23: Its very very possible that, since Alex gave Seth the camera, or Tim, or Brian in the newer entries while they are taken out, that they still had it during Jay's final visit to the house and used it to bring the operator. Maybe, in totheark's "return" video, they used the camera and brought Slendy. Why else did he walk towards it?

Entry ######## Maybe, this was not just directed towards Jay. Maybe whoever was "coming for you" found where Alex lived, and placed the camera in their house. After all, Alex didn't know they had it. Thats not something he would just forget, considering its power. [Edit: Maybe Skully was the one who placed it in his house]

Entry 26: Amy turns it on, and boom. Oppy returns, whether Alex wanted him to or not.

Then we get to season 2, and oh my god what the hell:

Alex is using his camera again. He constantly has it on, and what do you know, Oppy appears. A crap ton.

Maybe Oppy lives in that forest and waits for the summoning, which is why Jay found him there. Anyway, theres not much to explain in season 2, Alex is just frequently in oppy's presence. With the camera on.

Entry 52: Alex doesn't take the camera this time. Not sure why, but even so, he needs a gun to take them out. Masky comes to save the day, and Jay and Jessica flee the scene and live happily ever after. Wait nevermind they go to a hotel, but don't forget: Jay takes Alex's camera. (is it a different one? Maybe but its not necessary)

So then he hides the camera in his car. And they spend the night in the hotel.

But: In the conslusion of season 2, one character remains unseen at that showdown. Hoody. He very well could have followed Jay and Jessica to the hotel. If the camera Jay took wasn't the possessed one, Hoody could easily have had it. Regardless, Hoody comes and summons Oppy.

Why? I still don't know, but this part creeps me out.

Jay just assumes that in the middle of the night he must have gotten back into bed, put the camera back on the tripod, and just went to sleep. That seems like a bit much after having probably the most mentally brutal beating of his life. Who else would have done this? Hoody. Why? I don't know.

It gets weirder. The safe, it contains the footage of entry 52, right? Jay overlooks how that tape ended up in the safe. [EDIT: So maybe Hoody came in, got Jay in bed, put the camera back, and put the tape in the safe]. Hoody also most likely wrote the combination of the safe in that one room. After all I don't think Jessica wrote the zero as the Operator symbol.

So, was this all planned by Hoody and Masky? I honestly think its possible, and the main reason is because of the pre-season pics:

http://twitpic.com/31g2ab

http://twitpic.com/32u8yg

http://twitpic.com/37i5t2


Was this just OOG hinting the new season? Or does it go deeper. First off, smile for the camera? Theres that camera again.

Then we get the creepiest stuff. The number of days before Jay "wakes up" as well as the other picture telling Jay to "wake up."

Wait a sec, Jay was literally out for a night.....how would Masky/Hoody know this was going to happen?

And that, my friends, is why I believe totheark/masky/hoody are in 100% control of the situation at hand, well at least until Tim began to gain his sanity and Hoody lost his partner. Regardless, this is creeping me out just thinking about it.

I think I've said all I wanted to say. Im scared.


EDIT: I knew I would forget something! Entry 76: Hoody is using that darn camera again, and Jessica tries it out for a bit, and what do you freakin know...

Mother of god....Entry 72: Tim...he doesn't want Jay to open that pouch in his bag. What if the camera was turned on, in that pouch, thus summoning oppy. I cant stop thinking about how it all connects regardless of how farfetched it is lolol

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I'm Serum, and I approve this "scary ghost in the machine" theory.

For two reasons:

One, because people all over this board seem to think the Operator can be explained by "science." It cannot. It is not from this world, and if it's not of extraterrestrial origin, it's from an entirely different plane of existence-- a world of pure chaos, pure evil... I can hear them chanting, "liberate tutate ex inferis..."

Two, I like the idea of "haunted objects." Did you see all the post "Amityville III: The Demon" sequels? It was nothing but scary stuff brought back from the haunted house 'infecting' new houses in sunny California or other parts of the world.

The "too long, didn't read version" goes like this: Fuck science, demons are cool.

And, if you're too lazy to read, here's one of my clever links...



YouTube: Link


...and I now want to see Alex in Cenobite-like makeup in the finale.

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The youtube thumbnail was enough for me. But to be quite honest Im more creeped out about the second portion of the theory that discusses the end of season 2.

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Seriously, anyone who thinks Trosephim are going to explain the Operator on a whiteboard with a complex series of self-masturbatory calculations involving quantum physics and math should just unplug from the internet right now and go back to reading the calculus textbooks they hide under their mattresses. The Operator is an abomination of space and time, wherever it comes from is a place completely abandoned by any benevolent God (or gods, for that matter) and is probably somehow related more to the H.P. Lovecraft's C'thulu or Shub Niggurath or, and I know I'm getting obscure, here, Nyarlathotep.

And then you've got Tim, who was locked up in "the asylum" for who knows what. Brad Dourif is Tim Sutton in Marble Hornets: The Motion Picture.



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I like the idea that Hoody, Masky, or Skully could have placed the camera used from the Marble Hornets shoot in Alex's new apartment for an unsuspecting Amy to find and turn on. But this still doesn't explain why Alex is convinced that the entire clusterfuck with TO is Jay's fault. It seems that he would have blamed it on Hoody or Skully if they had planted the camera.

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Hunter_Rose1218 wrote:
I like the idea that Hoody, Masky, or Skully could have placed the camera used from the Marble Hornets shoot in Alex's new apartment for an unsuspecting Amy to find and turn on. But this still doesn't explain why Alex is convinced that the entire clusterfuck with TO is Jay's fault. It seems that he would have blamed it on Hoody or Skully if they had planted the camera.


I believe Alex blames Jay merely for showing to the world what he did to the crew members.

Also this theory states that Alex possibly made a deal with the operator or is somehow working with it.

hes in cahoots with the operator.


CAHOOTER

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I'm going to put it in terms I think that any typical web junky will get...

via Imgflip Meme Maker

...is what you should say when you see a nine foot, faceless demon in a business suit teleporting about. Not "I wonder what the physics involved in this science experiment are." Stop pestering Satan! He's busy enough as it is. Evil or Very Mad

wassupbro wrote:
hes in cahoots with the operator.

CAHOOTER


EDIT: Good word, bro! I like it! I vote that "Cahooter" become a post rank.

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Serum wrote:
Seriously, anyone who thinks Trosephim are going to explain the Operator on a whiteboard with a complex series of self-masturbatory calculations involving quantum physics and math should just unplug from the internet right now and go back to reading the calculus textbooks they hide under their mattresses. The Operator is an abomination of space and time, wherever it comes from is a place completely abandoned by any benevolent God (or gods, for that matter) and is probably somehow related more to the H.P. Lovecraft's C'thulu or Shub Niggurath or, and I know I'm getting obscure, here, Nyarlathotep.


Firstly it's maths not math. Secondly I always thought Slenderman/The Operator was like a forgotten Great Old One.
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Hazman wrote:
Serum wrote:
Seriously, anyone who thinks Trosephim are going to explain the Operator on a whiteboard with a complex series of self-masturbatory calculations involving quantum physics and math should just unplug from the internet right now and go back to reading the calculus textbooks they hide under their mattresses. The Operator is an abomination of space and time, wherever it comes from is a place completely abandoned by any benevolent God (or gods, for that matter) and is probably somehow related more to the H.P. Lovecraft's C'thulu or Shub Niggurath or, and I know I'm getting obscure, here, Nyarlathotep.


Firstly it's maths not math. Secondly I always thought Slenderman/The Operator was like a forgotten Great Old One.


Firstly, math sucks. Secondly, thank you for being familiar with Lovecraft.

The Operator, it's of paranormal origin-- don't try to explain it with science. It is clearly summoned and banished or at least drawn to or repelled through or by the use of that O/X symbol, which has its roots in Alchemy, which some people might try to sell off as a science, but is in fact an old form of divination. Trosephim would be out of their damned minds if they're going to write out the said self-masturbatory formula with all the whirly bird symbols and numbers and letters where there should be numbers and all that damned math.

Do you know why? Because it's easier (and more satisfying) for the monster to not be explained fully, for its origin to be cloudy and vague a most of all, paranormal, not of this world, not something that can be pounded down to numbers and ultimately meaningless, vain symbols on a chalkboard that are going to turn to dust, anyway. The Operator is a disciple of evil, an agent of darkness, a demon, a devil, a harbinger of doom. Not a science project.

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there's a lot of ways to debunk this theory, but the easiest one is the fact that the operator can find anyone he wants at any time, shown a few times this season, most notably when tim and jay go to alex's old house, tens of miles away from where they last encountered the operator

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Serum wrote:

Do you know why? Because it's easier (and more satisfying) for the monster to not be explained fully, for its origin to be cloudy and vague a most of all, paranormal, not of this world, not something that can be pounded down to numbers and ultimately meaningless, vain symbols on a chalkboard that are going to turn to dust, anyway. The Operator is a disciple of evil, an agent of darkness, a demon, a devil, a harbinger of doom. Not a science project.


That's why Lovecraft was such a good writer, he left half his creations only half explained and the other half with next to nothing to explain them. That's because our minds cannot comprehend what they are exactly. Same with Slenderman/The Operator

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(Actually, using the term "math" as plural is more common in America, and is being used correctly. "Maths" is more common in New Zealand, Britain, etc.)

The "haunted camera" theory has been around for a bit, but never explored quite so thouroughly... I like it! Does it spread to other cameras, though? Or only cameras used by the person being haunted? How many times has the chestcam picked up TO?

It also make me wonder about all those cameras Jay mentioned in the antique store at the beginning of season 3.

I know people have also forwarded the theory of cameras+operator symbol being used for summoning, but that's not always the case. I don't think it's used for banishing, because the operator has appeared many times directly after the symbol has been filmed.

The operator fits quite neatly within the lovecraftian feel, considering its association with another dimension full of alien geometries and time shifting.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
there's a lot of ways to debunk this theory, but the easiest one is the fact that the operator can find anyone he wants at any time, shown a few times this season, most notably when tim and jay go to alex's old house, tens of miles away from where they last encountered the operator

Read the last sentence in OP

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wassupbro wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
there's a lot of ways to debunk this theory, but the easiest one is the fact that the operator can find anyone he wants at any time, shown a few times this season, most notably when tim and jay go to alex's old house, tens of miles away from where they last encountered the operator

Read the last sentence in OP



even still, jay encounters the operator for the first time (23) without using a "posessed" camera

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Marble Hornets wrote:
wassupbro wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
there's a lot of ways to debunk this theory, but the easiest one is the fact that the operator can find anyone he wants at any time, shown a few times this season, most notably when tim and jay go to alex's old house, tens of miles away from where they last encountered the operator

Read the last sentence in OP



even still, jay encounters the operator for the first time (23) without using a "posessed" camera


Thats also addressed in the OP. Maybe its a little unclear of what I meant, but I meant that while Jay's camera is fine, its possible the haunted camera was near, and someone was using it to bring the operator to Jay

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