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SilentMedusa
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A couple things bothering me at the moment:

1) Apparently I'm the only one here that doesn't find TTA to be a beacon of truth and light. Even if he hasn't actually lied about anything (yet), he sometimes says crazy, unhelpful thing, because when he's not popping Tim's pills he's legitimately crazy. People keep saying he wouldn't put out a code that translated to a lie. But he already gave us one that turned out to be useless. Remember his line about the twins? (a message that decoded to read something like "the twins, did see what he did to them? I saw". Has anything ever come of that? I mean, the consensus seems to be he was talking about Tim and Masky, but was it ever confirmed? And did it serve any purpose in any case? I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take something as fact just because TTA said or implied it.

2) I don't know if Jessica is alive or dead, so I won't speculate on that. I also don't think Alex shot her, but he could have. She didn't take his gun. When Alex and Hoody were fighting in the tunnel, Jessica was holding the gun in one hand and the camera in the other. Just before she turned and ran through the tunnel, she put the gun down, and picked up the flashlight. So Alex could have picked it up at any time after fighting off Hoody.

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Okay can someone get me caught up on all of the arguments right now cause I want to introduce my logic to this...
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Beidah
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Even if he hasn't actually lied about anything (yet), he sometimes says crazy, unhelpful thing


"the twins, have you seen what he's done"

TTA never said she's alive, just that she's "out there." That just means he doesn't have her, which seems true enough.
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Jordan
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Beidah wrote:
SilentMedusa wrote:
Even if he hasn't actually lied about anything (yet), he sometimes says crazy, unhelpful thing


"the twins, have you seen what he's done"

TTA never said she's alive, just that she's "out there." That just means he doesn't have her, which seems true enough.


It's also possible that he actually didn't know her fate until recently when he discovered the tape and became suspicious of Tim and decided Jay was better off knowing that she was dead. Or he wants Jay to think that....

I do side on being very wary of TTA.

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SilentMedusa
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I just thought of something. Alex made a point to tell Jessica that the situation was Jay's fault, and I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why? He was going to kill her either way, so what did it matter to him who she blamed for having such a bitter fate dealt to her? Then something occurred to me: she was holding a camera. Alex wasn't talking to Jessica at all; he talking to Jay. He probably assumed (very reasonably, IMO) that Jay would see that tape someday. Telling her "I'm sorry; this is all Jay's fault," just before he murdered her could have been a way to twist the knife a little deeper in Jay's gut. Not only is the one he's trying to save already dead, she died blaming him for it.

At least that might've been Alex's plan; it turned into enough of a SNAFU that we don't even know if Jessica's actually dead or not. I sure hope we get a definitive answer on that.

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Jordan wrote:
Beidah wrote:
SilentMedusa wrote:
Even if he hasn't actually lied about anything (yet), he sometimes says crazy, unhelpful thing


"the twins, have you seen what he's done"

TTA never said she's alive, just that she's "out there." That just means he doesn't have her, which seems true enough.


It's also possible that he actually didn't know her fate until recently when he discovered the tape and became suspicious of Tim and decided Jay was better off knowing that she was dead. Or he wants Jay to think that....

I do side on being very wary of TTA.


True. TTA might not have even known what was on the tape. He might've suspected it came from that night, when he lost his camera, but Tim might've hid the tape before TTA could see it.

Silent, Alex might've been talking to himself, trying to justify this murder to try and make it easier.
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Marble Hornets
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[quote="SilentMedusa"]I just thought of something. Alex made a point to tell Jessica that the situation was Jay's fault, and I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why? He was going to kill her either way, so what did it matter to him who she blamed for having such a bitter fate dealt to her? Then something occurred to me: she was holding a camera. Alex wasn't talking to Jessica at all; he talking to Jay. He probably assumed (very reasonably, IMO) that Jay would see that tape someday. Telling her "I'm sorry; this is all Jay's fault," just before he murdered her could have been a way to twist the knife a little deeper in Jay's gut. Not only is the one he's trying to save already dead, she died blaming him for it.

At least that might've been Alex's plan; it turned into enough of a SNAFU that we don't even know if Jessica's actually dead or not. I sure hope we get a definitive answer on that.[/quote


You're over analyzing. Alex was just telling her why she was going to die. It's not unusual for that to happen.

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Omberto wrote:
Every time the next entry is touted to reveal something game changing to the series:



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Exactly! Is Jessica merely a pawn in TO games? Or is she more involved than we actually realise? We actually know little to nothing about her and even less after she disappears from the hotel!

More questions than answers, this series could go either way!

TTA can't be lying about Jessica being alive. If he truly thought or was lead to believe she was alive but she wasn't, how is that a lie?

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You guys do have to realize, it's entirely possible that TTA knew her fate and still wasn't lying. Even if she IS dead (I'm not entirely convinced) and if TTA DID know she was dead, he could have simply meant "She's still out there" as in her fate is not known to Jay and therefore to us. He could have just been saying it in a sense of she was another unanswered question that is out there, and have been using it as a way to motivate him, since Jay did name her as his biggest motivation for continuing.
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SilentMedusa
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ReeseSparrow wrote:
You guys do have to realize, it's entirely possible that TTA knew her fate and still wasn't lying. Even if she IS dead (I'm not entirely convinced) and if TTA DID know she was dead, he could have simply meant "She's still out there" as in her fate is not known to Jay and therefore to us. He could have just been saying it in a sense of she was another unanswered question that is out there, and have been using it as a way to motivate him, since Jay did name her as his biggest motivation for continuing.


This caused me to imagine Jay angrily confronting TTA, demanding to know why he would say Jessica was "still out there" when she wasn't, only for TTA to cite this very argument, wrapping it up with the fact that what he said was true... from a certain point of view.

Clearly, I have too much time on my hands Rolling Eyes .

And Marble Hornets, I'm sure you're right; it just seems odd because that's a dumb thing to do (Bond Villain Stupidity, actually), and of all the nasty things I have to say about Alex, I would not call him stupid. And since the smart thing to do would've been to shoot her right away (or both of them, in #52)... I guess I'm just straining for some kind of reason.

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Jordan
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INT.

An old delierct warehouse, long since abandoned. We see a couple of raggy blankets which Jay is sleeping in.

We hear the door open. JAY aims the gun nervously at the door, anxiously waiting to see who it is.

The door opens. JAY aims a gun, nervously.

JAY: Tim?

JESSICA: Not with this octave.

JAY: Jessica!

(They embrace in a big old Hollywood kiss - which then get's distincitly more messier. 'Cause Marble Hornets is real)

(Jessica's left arm falls off and reveals a rotting festering zombie stump)

(JAY looks in horror at the stump and then at Jessica)

JESSICA (smiles reassuringly): Hey.

FADE TO BLACK.

TEXT: I think we've got a few problems to work on.

Back on topic, is anyone really, really having a problem waiting this season? I started watching in season two, but was more then content to wait it out and enjoy the mystery, but season three....It get's more painful every entry! Not that I don't appreciate the effort the boys put in, but.....God Smile

(It might be starting to show with my comments, come to think)...

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Waulker
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Uhh... I honestly can't see why anyone could say these two things:

1. Tim knows what he's doing when he's masky

2. Tim is trying to help jay when he's masky.

Neither of those make sense if we remember back to the first season when jay first went to brian's old house, and masky attacked, and tried to kill him (he couldn't because he started coughing.) And also when he admits to have been taking anti-psychosis drugs because he's been waking up in the middle of nowhere without a clue as to what is going on, and holding a weird ass mask.

If y'all remember back to the beginning of this, some of your major theories can be disproven.....

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Master of Octopi
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SilentMedusa wrote:


People keep saying he wouldn't put out a code that translated to a lie. But he already gave us one that turned out to be useless. Remember his line about the twins? (a message that decoded to read something like "the twins, did see what he did to them? I saw".



Beidah wrote:


"the twins, have you seen what he's done"

TTA never said she's alive, just that she's "out there." That just means he doesn't have her, which seems true enough.


I forgot about that cipher, and it just gave me a thought: what if this entry's recovered tape is what ToTheArk meant by this? Masky and Hoody have been speculated to be "the twins," and the code could refer to what Alex and the Operator did to Jessica. If this is true, then it wasn't a useless code, it's just taken a while to pay off.

Maybe ToTheArk (believed by many to be Hoody) is having memory issues like many of the other Slendified folks, and has been uploading his cryptic videos in order to jog his memories of the important bits, and that their meaning is deliberately obscure to prevent people from discovering all of the information within them.

Sort of like writing a diary in a cipher to keep it away from prying eyes.

Just some wild speculation.

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So what did Alex say when:

A. Jessica asked about Hoody?
B. He was about to shoot her?

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I do think more people need to question TTA's motives. It's clear that he's trying to help Jay, but he's also incredibly unhelpful. He has very roundabout ways of relaying simple messages.

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