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MascaraSnake
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SilentMedusa wrote:
And Marble Hornets, I'm sure you're right; it just seems odd because that's a dumb thing to do (Bond Villain Stupidity, actually), and of all the nasty things I have to say about Alex, I would not call him stupid. And since the smart thing to do would've been to shoot her right away (or both of them, in #52)... I guess I'm just straining for some kind of reason.

As has been said numerous times, Alex isn't as cold-blooded as you seem to think. The only time he killed someone without hesitation was Bruce, and it's safe to say he was completely out of it when that happened. He doesn't want to kill Jessica, but he feels that he has to, and that's why he hesitates and tries to justify himself.

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Marble Hornets
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Beidah wrote:
SilentMedusa wrote:
Even if he hasn't actually lied about anything (yet), he sometimes says crazy, unhelpful thing


"the twins, have you seen what he's done"

TTA never said she's alive, just that she's "out there." That just means he doesn't have her, which seems true enough.



The twins could be something we don't know yet. Jessica's face flashes at the end of display in the tunnel, and that's something that ended up happening (even though the video is almost a year old)

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Face it, Henry, TTA's videos are absolutely useless.
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Sha Noran
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Wow you guys are pretty outrageous sometimes. This is one of the most straightforward videos with the most answers that the series has ever given us, and there are at least 25 pages worth of posts that read like watching chickens run around with their heads cut off. Is critical thinking and analysis really that difficult?

And I'm getting tired of hearing about that twins quote. Seems obvious what it was about; I'm tired of explaining it in every thread where someone wants to go on a TTA rant. Blah blah blah, but TTA said this! Technically, if it wasn't on the official marblehornets YouTube channel specifically, it is not an essential part of the story. You don't have to see any TTA videos or ever read any of the tweets to fully understand the storyline. You are making it more complicated for yourself by stressing so much about extraneous viewing material.

Frankly I'm tempted to just fully quote my post from page 27, because it seems to have been ignored by the people with the most outlandish speculation. Thanks to those of you who read it and supported the hefty dose of logic I dumped on this thread, haha. Some of you really should study up on the series if you want to act so excited about it.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Wow you guys are pretty outrageous sometimes. This is one of the most straightforward videos with the most answers that the series has ever given us, and there are at least 25 pages worth of posts that read like watching chickens run around with their heads cut off. Is critical thinking and analysis really that difficult?

And I'm getting tired of hearing about that twins quote. Seems obvious what it was about; I'm tired of explaining it in every thread where someone wants to go on a TTA rant. Blah blah blah, but TTA said this! Technically, if it wasn't on the official marblehornets YouTube channel specifically, it is not an essential part of the story. You don't have to see any TTA videos or ever read any of the tweets to fully understand the storyline. You are making it more complicated for yourself by stressing so much about extraneous viewing material.

Frankly I'm tempted to just fully quote my post from page 27, because it seems to have been ignored by the people with the most outlandish speculation. Thanks to those of you who read it and supported the hefty dose of logic I dumped on this thread, haha. Some of you really should study up on the series if you want to act so excited about it.

Amen to that!
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geekgirlinthefedora
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Sha Noran wrote:
Frankly I'm tempted to just fully quote my post from page 27, because it seems to have been ignored by the people with the most outlandish speculation. Thanks to those of you who read it and supported the hefty dose of logic I dumped on this thread, haha. Some of you really should study up on the series if you want to act so excited about it.


I didn't read it. Wanna know why? Because it was the most arrogant, rudest post that I've read thus far in this thread. We come here to debate and to throw ideas around. Yeah, some of those ideas are gonna be completely whack-a-doodle and you know what? That's okay. This isn't work or school, this isn't life or death. This is fun. We're having fun. Do you remember fun? Do you remember when it stopped being fun for you?

tl;dr Be a little nicer, you'll get further.

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I didn't read it. Wanna know why? Because it was the most arrogant, rudest post that I've read thus far in this thread. We come here to debate and to throw ideas around. Yeah, some of those ideas are gonna be completely whack-a-doodle and you know what? That's okay. This isn't work or school, this isn't life or death. This is fun. We're having fun. Do you remember fun? Do you remember when it stopped being fun for you?

tl;dr Be a little nicer, you'll get further.


Get off your high horse kid, it's the only post in this entire thread that actually looks at the events coherently while everyone is screaming about minute details.

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I'll just say, I think this entry is almost too straight-forward, and the fact there are a lot of answers and little to no speculation is why people take ideas to the extreme and argue about Jessica's death.

I'm on the fence about Jessica's death, she looks dead, Tim thinks she is, and the Trosephim must want us to assume that at the moment or the 'breathing' would have been for more obvious.
Having said that, as many people have said, we didn't see her death, or any blood etc and 'shes out there' (even though it's OBVIOUSLY about Sarah) can imply she's alive, since TTA is supplementary and non-crucial to the story I think they want people to think she's dead.

Also, I think it's deliberately ambiguous, to fuel these arguments.



I'm also gonna defend myself RE 'Tim is conscious during masky state' by saying, it's just an idea, there's little evidence for it, but there's little evidence for Tim not being able to remember (since he's lied so well about Jessica recently) I'm not completely convinced myself, just brainstorming ideas.



@Sha Noran, you say they were trying to get Jessica out before she gets more involved, but I thought she said she's been having problems for a long time

(Also, what GeekGirl just said sums up a lot of my thoughts, except I read it, and think you're making a lot of leaps that aren't really proven)
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DrHuxley wrote:
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I didn't read it. Wanna know why? Because it was the most arrogant, rudest post that I've read thus far in this thread. We come here to debate and to throw ideas around. Yeah, some of those ideas are gonna be completely whack-a-doodle and you know what? That's okay. This isn't work or school, this isn't life or death. This is fun. We're having fun. Do you remember fun? Do you remember when it stopped being fun for you?

tl;dr Be a little nicer, you'll get further.


Get off your high horse kid, it's the only post in this entire thread that actually looks at the events coherently while everyone is screaming about minute details.


That's called speculating. It's what we do here. And even if people do want to look at things, as you say, "coherently", it is still possible to do that without being a condescending asshat.
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DrHuxley wrote:
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I didn't read it. Wanna know why? Because it was the most arrogant, rudest post that I've read thus far in this thread. We come here to debate and to throw ideas around. Yeah, some of those ideas are gonna be completely whack-a-doodle and you know what? That's okay. This isn't work or school, this isn't life or death. This is fun. We're having fun. Do you remember fun? Do you remember when it stopped being fun for you?

tl;dr Be a little nicer, you'll get further.


Get off your high horse kid, it's the only post in this entire thread that actually looks at the events coherently while everyone is screaming about minute details.


"Minute" details have played a big part in MH before, and EVERY mystery ever.

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DrHuxley wrote:
Get off your high horse kid, it's the only post in this entire thread that actually looks at the events coherently while everyone is screaming about minute details.


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Because it was the most arrogant, rudest post that I've read thus far in this thread.


Here was the point. I think you may have missed it. Sometimes it's really not what you say, it's how you say it.

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TTA is only helping Jay because their goals currently coincide. In fact, Jay is TTA's tool as much as hoody or masky. Jay is following the leads given and doing as he's told. He's getting closer to Alex and TO, which I think TTA wants to control. Training the gun on Alex was an experiment to see if the faceless avenger would show up to save him. TTA wants Alex dead so he can assume some kind of control over TO, but he can't kill Alex himself because Mindbender keeps showing up. Jay is just the distraction, and Jessica is his MacGuffin.

TTA needs Jay to kill Alex, for him, or to try to to distract the Operator. So he revealed this tape to him to put him in a murderous rage, knowing where Alex is being held captive. Jay attacks Alex, draws out TO and uses his medication-reinforced resistance to keep him busy while Hoody kills Alex and does some kind of ceremony or what-not to take control over the operator. It will all backfire of course because you can't control the Operator like TTA thinks you can, and in the End they all end up mind-wiped. Vicious faceless antagonist wins, and we all look on like WTF? That's the end?

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Sha Noran wrote:
Wow you guys are pretty outrageous sometimes. This is one of the most straightforward videos with the most answers that the series has ever given us, and there are at least 25 pages worth of posts that read like watching chickens run around with their heads cut off. Is critical thinking and analysis really that difficult?

And I'm getting tired of hearing about that twins quote. Seems obvious what it was about; I'm tired of explaining it in every thread where someone wants to go on a TTA rant. Blah blah blah, but TTA said this! Technically, if it wasn't on the official marblehornets YouTube channel specifically, it is not an essential part of the story. You don't have to see any TTA videos or ever read any of the tweets to fully understand the storyline. You are making it more complicated for yourself by stressing so much about extraneous viewing material.

Frankly I'm tempted to just fully quote my post from page 27, because it seems to have been ignored by the people with the most outlandish speculation. Thanks to those of you who read it and supported the hefty dose of logic I dumped on this thread, haha. Some of you really should study up on the series if you want to act so excited about it.



I went back and read your post and you know what? I still think Jessica is dead because all the imagery I saw pointed to her being dead. It implied that Alex killed her and that TO took her. Until I'm shown otherwise, that's the way I'm going to interpret that. And by "shown otherwise" I mean until there's an entry that proves me wrong.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
Wow you guys are pretty outrageous sometimes. This is one of the most straightforward videos with the most answers that the series has ever given us, and there are at least 25 pages worth of posts that read like watching chickens run around with their heads cut off. Is critical thinking and analysis really that difficult?

And I'm getting tired of hearing about that twins quote. Seems obvious what it was about; I'm tired of explaining it in every thread where someone wants to go on a TTA rant. Blah blah blah, but TTA said this! Technically, if it wasn't on the official marblehornets YouTube channel specifically, it is not an essential part of the story. You don't have to see any TTA videos or ever read any of the tweets to fully understand the storyline. You are making it more complicated for yourself by stressing so much about extraneous viewing material.

Frankly I'm tempted to just fully quote my post from page 27, because it seems to have been ignored by the people with the most outlandish speculation. Thanks to those of you who read it and supported the hefty dose of logic I dumped on this thread, haha. Some of you really should study up on the series if you want to act so excited about it.



I went back and read your post and you know what? I still think Jessica is dead because all the imagery I saw pointed to her being dead. It implied that Alex killed her and that TO took her. Until I'm shown otherwise, that's the way I'm going to interpret that. And by "shown otherwise" I mean until there's an entry that proves me wrong.


I'm pretty sure this is the correct/intended interpretation of the tape, and certainly Jay's interpretation.

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I don't appreciate being called arrogant and rude when the guy who somehow gets away with naming himself Marble Hornets gets to be a whiney shithead about everything. It has been literally painful to read this thread because of the absurd and completely ridiculous speculation - which I will point out is not the disagreement about whether Jessica survived this Entry but the "logic" people have used to back up their reasoning. Among a lot of other things in this thread, which I was attempting to clear up confusion about. Like, I dunno, thinking this happened after Entry 52, which is simply wrong and ignorant.

And this is fun, I enjoy this series as well as discussing it on this board. But it becomes less fun when people push their BS that amounts to the equivalent of "but what if unicorns spawned and saved her?? TTA mentioned unicorns once so it must be true!" But don't equate stupidity to having fun. That's just silly.

I mean come on. There has been almost NO legit discussion in this thread about anything actually interesting. Just arguing over BS. Ok, so Jessica's fate is ambiguous. Maybe it was supposed to be? I can dig those arguments both ways. But people are trying to argue about where this goes in the chronology - are you kidding me? Or how Hoody got the gun in 73... Uhh how about 67? It is quite frustrating when it seems like some of the people in the discussion haven't even seen all the Entries. Or can't even remember shit from THIS season. How are we supposed to have an in depth discussion if so many people don't even know what's going on?

EDIT: And it is especially strange for you to call me out specifically when I didn't even call anyone out myself. I pointed out some facts that disproved some of the crazy speculation flying around. And yes I did some speculating of my own, because that's what makes this board fun. But seriously, I read every post before I posted, and I was so annoyed that I was pissed off. Pardon me for being a passionate fan. But I guess you wouldn't know what I said in my post, cause you didn't even read it. In the real world, you won't always like what people have to say or how they say it, but that doesn't mean they haven't got a point.

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