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Marble Hornets wrote:
Why would they have this not be between 32 and 33? Because they also needed a reason to explain how Jessica lost her memory. Once the operator is involved with you he can take you whenever he wants. There's your explanation for 33.


But that plot point is irrelevant. She lost her memory cause of The Operator, or in proximity of him. This we already know, and for 76 to point this out again, would be totally redundant and pointless (especially considering memory loss and dreams of being in a forest are standard elements for TO). It would make far more sense for 76 to be Jessica's epilogue after Entry 32. Because we'll finally have an extension on her story (after her disappearance), and leave it questionable at best. Plus, it gives Jay hope that "shes still out there". If we get a revisit of that hotel in events of the current timeline, then I might re-consider this. Until then, you have to accept that this is between 32 and 33, at least for now.
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 		I rewatched Entry 52 to sort this mess out. From my observations Jessica wakes up to seeing The Operator standing over her about to mind rape her like what he does to Jay, so the natural thing to do is start screaming. Jay hears her and wakes up and rushes to see what's wrong. The Operator has erased enough of her memory to leave her so he teleports to Jays room. Jay rushes him and gets mind raped himself. I saw no collection of Masky/Hoody in the hotel the only shot Masky is in is in the barn/shed/thing when Alex is about to shoot them. Whereas in Entry 33 we see Masky come in to presumably get Jay after he has just got Jessica.

But my biggest point why it doesn't occur the night of 52 is...

ALEX JUST TRIED TO FUCKING SHOOT HER yet in 76 he asks if she remembers him by saying he's Amy's friend, but yet in 52 she clearly knows who he is and wouldn't follow him after he just tried to shoot her and Jay. She would be more inclined to follow Hoody than Alex as he, yet, hasn't tried to shoot/hurt her, other than to lead her and keep her quiet.

So from my speculating Jay and Jessica get mind raped at the end of 52. They both wake up in the morning (27) with no collection of what happened in the past 7 months.
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Hazman wrote:
I rewatched Entry 52 to sort this mess out. From my observations Jessica wakes up to seeing The Operator standing over her about to mind rape her like what he does to Jay, so the natural thing to do is start screaming. Jay hears her and wakes up and rushes to see what's wrong. The Operator has erased enough of her memory to leave her so he teleports to Jays room. Jay rushes him and gets mind raped himself. I saw no collection of Masky/Hoody in the hotel the only shot Masky is in is in the barn/shed/thing when Alex is about to shoot them. Whereas in Entry 33 we see Masky come in to presumably get Jay after he has just got Jessica.

But my biggest point why it doesn't occur the night of 52 is...

ALEX JUST TRIED TO FUCKING SHOOT HER yet in 76 he asks if she remembers him by saying he's Amy's friend, but yet in 52 she clearly knows who he is and wouldn't follow him after he just tried to shoot her and Jay. She would be more inclined to follow Hoody than Alex as he, yet, hasn't tried to shoot/hurt her, other than to lead her and keep her quiet.

So from my speculating Jay and Jessica get mind raped at the end of 52. They both wake up in the morning (27) with no collection of what happened in the past 7 months.


There you go. I asked for proof of why it couldn't be 52 and you delivered, good sir.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
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This entry wouldn't make any fucking sense if it was set during #52.


There is no real difference in plot whether this takes place during 52 or 33. Prove me wrong on that. Jessica still doesn't remember anything that happened before it. Which would fit in perfectly with 52, as we never knew how Jessica lost her memory.


I'm just going to stop on this page and not read further on because this is just becoming silly now.

The opening of 76 clearly shows Masky carrying Jessica out of the hotel. This can't have happened directly after entry 52 because Entry 27 is literally the morning after. In Entry 32 Jay finally agrees to explain everything to Jessica and they are going to run away together. Dumbass Jay stops to upload Entry 32 before going over there. This should presumably take at least an hour to do. Plenty of time for Masky to come up, knock out Jessica, and carry her down before going back up to get Jay.

Entry 76 is the continuation of Entry 32 and shows us what happened to Jessica after Jay last spoke to her. You are throwing misinformation into the mix in an attempt to derail discussion and then you are attacking anyone who disagrees with you.

You are the very definition of an Internet Troll. Don't believe me? Here's what Wikipedia has to say on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

For the sake of those who are link paranoid or too lazy to click the link:

Troll (Internet)

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

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 		Oh, this is where the rage thread went.
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ReeseSparrow wrote:
Oh, this s where the rage thread went.


I'm not raging. I'm just being overly frickin nerdy today. :V

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Hazman wrote:
I rewatched Entry 52 to sort this mess out. From my observations Jessica wakes up to seeing The Operator standing over her about to mind rape her like what he does to Jay, so the natural thing to do is start screaming. Jay hears her and wakes up and rushes to see what's wrong. The Operator has erased enough of her memory to leave her so he teleports to Jays room. Jay rushes him and gets mind raped himself. I saw no collection of Masky/Hoody in the hotel the only shot Masky is in is in the barn/shed/thing when Alex is about to shoot them. Whereas in Entry 33 we see Masky come in to presumably get Jay after he has just got Jessica.

But my biggest point why it doesn't occur the night of 52 is...

ALEX JUST TRIED TO FUCKING SHOOT HER yet in 76 he asks if she remembers him by saying he's Amy's friend, but yet in 52 she clearly knows who he is and wouldn't follow him after he just tried to shoot her and Jay. She would be more inclined to follow Hoody than Alex as he, yet, hasn't tried to shoot/hurt her, other than to lead her and keep her quiet.

So from my speculating Jay and Jessica get mind raped at the end of 52. They both wake up in the morning (27) with no collection of what happened in the past 7 months.

I think what happened is that Jessica forgot most of what happened during Entry #52, but not everything, like her connection to Amy.
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FalloutGhoul wrote:

I think what happened is that Jessica forgot most of what happened during Entry #52, but not everything, like her connection to Amy.

Yeah, that's cause she knew Amy longer than the 7 months the got erased.

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Hazman wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:

I think what happened is that Jessica forgot most of what happened during Entry #52, but not everything, like her connection to Amy.

Yeah, that's cause she knew Amy longer than the 7 months the got erased.


She did forget where she lived, and she had been living there, presumably, since Amy lived there before the 7 months.
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To make this on-topic again, I think Jessica is probably alive at the end of this. Alex has shown that he really doesn't want to hurt anyone, but either can't stop himself from doing it or thinks it necessary for some reason (evidence, his muttering in 49 telling Jay to stop following him). We don't see him do anything to Jessica, and it's possible that after seeing her unconscious he assumes her memory is wiped and she won't be a problem anymore. Most importantly, we don't see anything happen to Jessica, so the creators are obviously intending this to be ambiguous


This. We actually see Alex picking up the gun from her without shooting, and going away. When Jessica ran away from the tunnel, she had the gun. And then, we see her breathing. They wouldn't have made a mistake like that if they wanted to show her death.

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To make this on-topic again, I think Jessica is probably alive at the end of this. Alex has shown that he really doesn't want to hurt anyone, but either can't stop himself from doing it or thinks it necessary for some reason (evidence, his muttering in 49 telling Jay to stop following him). We don't see him do anything to Jessica, and it's possible that after seeing her unconscious he assumes her memory is wiped and she won't be a problem anymore. Most importantly, we don't see anything happen to Jessica, so the creators are obviously intending this to be ambiguous


This. We actually see Alex picking up the gun from her without shooting, and going away. When Jessica ran away from the tunnel, she had the gun. And then, we see her breathing. They wouldn't have made a mistake like that if they wanted to show her death.


She didn't have the gun when she left the tunnel. She put it down to pick up the flashlight before she ran off. So Alex would have already had the gun again when he caught up with her.

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To make this on-topic again, I think Jessica is probably alive at the end of this. Alex has shown that he really doesn't want to hurt anyone, but either can't stop himself from doing it or thinks it necessary for some reason (evidence, his muttering in 49 telling Jay to stop following him). We don't see him do anything to Jessica, and it's possible that after seeing her unconscious he assumes her memory is wiped and she won't be a problem anymore. Most importantly, we don't see anything happen to Jessica, so the creators are obviously intending this to be ambiguous


This. We actually see Alex picking up the gun from her without shooting, and going away. When Jessica ran away from the tunnel, she had the gun. And then, we see her breathing. They wouldn't have made a mistake like that if they wanted to show her death.


Hmm, Tim is infallible, but Troseph is not.

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 		So Slendy is Audrey II and Alex is Seymour.

Was Jessica a dentist? Will this all end in song? Is TO a big bad mother from outer space? Dunce

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 		Guys, I believe the matter of "when did this take place" can be settled easily. It shouldn't really even be a question (why would they try to mislead us into thinking it's after 33 if it wasn't? Why did Masky go back to the hotel again months later if it was after 52? etc.), but there's one giveaway dialogue that pretty much cements the matter.

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Alex: Why were you at the hotel anyway? Why didn't you just go home?


And Jessica responds that she didn't know where she lives. If we assumed this to take place after 52, that would mean that she had checked into the hotel less than 24 hours prior and had her memory erased only for a couple of hours. Alex would have no reason to ask why she didn't go home when she'd only just arrived, and Jessica wouldn't have even had time to consider going home or realize she didn't know where it was. She probably wouldn't have even had time to piece together that she was in a hotel at all before Masky carried her out.

Sure, if you really want to believe Trosephim are deliberately misleading us, you could probably stretch facts to fit the theory, but Occam's Razor, people. It was pretty illogical to assume this was anywhere except after 33 even ignoring the conversation I mentioned, and it's downright silly with that conversation in mind.

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TheJoker wrote:
And Jessica responds that she didn't know where she lives. If we assumed this to take place after 52, that would mean that she had checked into the hotel less than 24 hours prior and had her memory erased only for a couple of hours. Alex would have no reason to ask why she didn't go home when she'd only just arrived, and Jessica wouldn't have even had time to consider going home or realize she didn't know where it was. She probably wouldn't have even had time to piece together that she was in a hotel at all before Masky carried her out.


That also raises the kinda creepy implication that Alex may have been waiting on her to come home, kinda like what he was doing with Tim. Which just, as a woman, gives me a massive case of the creeps.

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