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TheJoker
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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
@TheJoker: I was thinking about the Shining to while I was writing my little essay. I can definitely see the parallels between Jack's and Alex's slow descents into madness.

Incidentally, I had an epiphany about why MH is like Shining a couple of days ago, but I can't remember what sparked it. I remember thinking the following:

-Alex, like Jack, starts off as one of the main protagonists and is slowly driven insane by supernatural forces (with some ambiguity as to how sane he was to begin with) and becomes a frightening psychotic murderer.

-The Operator, like the Overlook, is a menacing supernatural force whose mysteries start as the main focus of the plot, and while prominent throughout, sort of takes a backseat to the human antagonist in the latter parts of the story.

But what's annoying me is that neither of those is what initially led to my thinking they were similar. I don't remember what my third comparison point was, and it's driving me nuts.

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 		When Hoody guided Jay to the Tunnel? I seem to remember him disappearing quickly after that

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 		Presumably Hoody went down into the tunnel, that's why Jay lost sight of them.

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 		Fair enough, I'm forgetting Jay didn't follow in that entry. Never mind

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 		Now I want to see a Simpsons parody of Marble Hornets. The one they did of the Shining was spot on.

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 		Hey,

While we're all a bit quick to condemn Alex, I've often wondered if his actions aren't the result of. It's been heavily suggested throughout the series that The Operator conciously decides to erase people's memories and it's just not a side effect to his presence, but I wouldn't put it beyond the faceless wonder to be able to get inside people's minds and torture them as well. Who knows what horrors Alex was subjected to which lead him to be the wreck of humanity he is now today? Hell, maybe his attempt to kill Jay and Jessica in entry #52 was the only thing he COULD do to save them?

It's also possible that The Operator tused his abilities to supress the crew of Marble Hornet's ability to register the strange things which were going on - Sarah might have disappeared, for instance, and Brian and Tim didn't dwell on it particularly much. It might explain Brian's aggressive reaction in entry #51, #7 and #54 and - that his subconcious was trying to tell him that something just wasn't right and he was taking out his frustration out on Alex.

(Sorry fellas, today is autism today....so...my points are a little scattershot at the moment)

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Jordan wrote:
...snip... I wouldn't put it beyond the faceless wonder to be able to get inside people's minds and torture them ...snip...


In Entry #32 Jessica talks about the nightmares she was having at the time (the way she talks about them, she only had them since being at the hotel) and Jay stops her talking, as if he's had the same kinds of nightmares and doesn't want to talk about it. From what I remember it's canon that Jessica had been exposed to the operator at that point. So I think it's safe to say that the operator can and does interfere with people's minds, whether directly or not, and whether intentionally or not.

And it just occurred to me that this could explain what I always thought was a huge plot hole from Entry #11. Alex wakes up, even though there's no sound/light to wake him up, and without any cue he goes downstairs with his camera and looks out of all the windows. To me this never made sense- why would he do that? What tipped him off that the operator might be there? However, if he just had a nightmare and had already learned to associate nightmares with the presence of the operator then his actions make perfect sense. Mind blown.

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aidansean wrote:
Now I want to see a Simpsons parody of Marble Hornets. The one they did of the Shining was spot on.


Mr Smithers = Operator
Moe = Hoody
Milhouse = Masky/Tim
Homer = Alex
Marge = Amy
Bart = Jay
Lisa = Jessica
Lenny = Bruce
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Sha Noran
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Jordan wrote:
Hey,

While we're all a bit quick to condemn Alex, I've often wondered if his actions aren't the result of. It's been heavily suggested throughout the series that The Operator conciously decides to erase people's memories and it's just not a side effect to his presence, but I wouldn't put it beyond the faceless wonder to be able to get inside people's minds and torture them as well. Who knows what horrors Alex was subjected to which lead him to be the wreck of humanity he is now today? Hell, maybe his attempt to kill Jay and Jessica in entry #52 was the only thing he COULD do to save them?

It's also possible that The Operator tused his abilities to supress the crew of Marble Hornet's ability to register the strange things which were going on - Sarah might have disappeared, for instance, and Brian and Tim didn't dwell on it particularly much. It might explain Brian's aggressive reaction in entry #51, #7 and #54 and - that his subconcious was trying to tell him that something just wasn't right and he was taking out his frustration out on Alex.

(Sorry fellas, today is autism today....so...my points are a little scattershot at the moment)


You make sense 90% of the time. I would just recommend you try to remember to proofread your posts, mainly because sometimes you don't finish your sentences. If you don't finish your sentences, we don't know what point you were trying to make. And I'd rather know what's on your mind than not, because you generally show yourself to be a pretty diehard fan. So yeah, proofreading is key.

On topic, I have assumed all along that there must be a psychic/psychological aspect to The Operator, because otherwise, as has been pointed out, he doesn't really seem to do much. Also, the memory loss, nightmares and the difference Tim's anti-seizure pills make are clear indicators that TO has a significant effect on a person's mind and mental state. I think its silly to suppose that he doesn't have some serious mindfuck skills, right?

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 		I personally hate the fact that something simple as pills can make Tim "better". But Sha Noran's point makes sense. If it is psychological, pills might be anti-depressant or mood enhancer (might even be placebos), some kind of psychiatric mumbo jumbo. If an otherworldy entity like the Operator can be controlled with pills, he doesn't have that much of a threat level anymore... unless you run out of pills, then your screwed. I guess you have to be in a certain emotional state for him to really affect you. The Operator has no interest in happy go luck types I suppose. If you aren't affected by him mentally, you aren't useful to him. But he can still do stuff to you. Like Teleport you and other things.
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UnQuantifiable wrote:
I personally hate the fact that something simple as pills can make Tim "better". But Sha Noran's point makes sense. If it is psychological, pills might be anti-depressant or mood enhancer (might even be placebos), some kind of psychiatric mumbo jumbo. If an otherworldy entity like the Operator can be controlled with pills, he doesn't have that much of a threat level anymore... unless you run out of pills, then your screwed. I guess you have to be in a certain emotional state for him to really affect you. The Operator has no interest in happy go luck types I suppose. If you aren't affected by him mentally, you aren't useful to him. But he can still do stuff to you. Like Teleport you and other things.
That makes sense, Remember in entry 60.5 when Jay went through Tim's medical records, he had rage fits and somewhat depression, Maybe Oppykins affected him the most because he had the history, then when Alex got stalked, he became more stressed out which made Oppykins affect him more, I believe the pills make Tim feel better and make his mood go up, In entry #53 for example, Tim did not look depressed as usual..THE PILLS ARE THE ARKKK!K!K@#GT$KEWKHN
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Mr_Slen wrote:
UnQuantifiable wrote:
I personally hate the fact that something simple as pills can make Tim "better". But Sha Noran's point makes sense. If it is psychological, pills might be anti-depressant or mood enhancer (might even be placebos), some kind of psychiatric mumbo jumbo. If an otherworldy entity like the Operator can be controlled with pills, he doesn't have that much of a threat level anymore... unless you run out of pills, then your screwed. I guess you have to be in a certain emotional state for him to really affect you. The Operator has no interest in happy go luck types I suppose. If you aren't affected by him mentally, you aren't useful to him. But he can still do stuff to you. Like Teleport you and other things.
That makes sense, Remember in entry 60.5 when Jay went through Tim's medical records, he had rage fits and somewhat depression, Maybe Oppykins affected him the most because he had the history, then when Alex got stalked, he became more stressed out which made Oppykins affect him more, I believe the pills make Tim feel better and make his mood go up, In entry #53 for example, Tim did not look depressed as usual..THE PILLS ARE THE ARKKK!K!K@#GT$KEWKHN


I very much doubt the pills are the ark because it's been pretty clear that Hoody and Tim have been taking them to stave off The Operator's effect on them for quite sometime.


Whatever it is, it's going to blow our minds completly, I'm sure of it Smile

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Jordan wrote:
Mr_Slen wrote:
UnQuantifiable wrote:
I personally hate the fact that something simple as pills can make Tim "better". But Sha Noran's point makes sense. If it is psychological, pills might be anti-depressant or mood enhancer (might even be placebos), some kind of psychiatric mumbo jumbo. If an otherworldy entity like the Operator can be controlled with pills, he doesn't have that much of a threat level anymore... unless you run out of pills, then your screwed. I guess you have to be in a certain emotional state for him to really affect you. The Operator has no interest in happy go luck types I suppose. If you aren't affected by him mentally, you aren't useful to him. But he can still do stuff to you. Like Teleport you and other things.
That makes sense, Remember in entry 60.5 when Jay went through Tim's medical records, he had rage fits and somewhat depression, Maybe Oppykins affected him the most because he had the history, then when Alex got stalked, he became more stressed out which made Oppykins affect him more, I believe the pills make Tim feel better and make his mood go up, In entry #53 for example, Tim did not look depressed as usual..THE PILLS ARE THE ARKKK!K!K@#GT$KEWKHN


I very much doubt the pills are the ark because it's been pretty clear that Hoody and Tim have been taking them to stave off The Operator's effect on them for quite sometime.


Whatever it is, it's going to blow our minds completly, I'm sure of it Smile

Just think of it, The Ark sheltered Noah and his family from the flood, In Entry #17 when Tim took a drink of water the video froze so Oppykins has a connection to water, Tim and Hoody take the pills to sheild themselves from the Operator's effect. Think of it.

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Mr_Slen wrote:

Just think of it, The Ark sheltered Noah and his family from the flood, In Entry #17 when Tim took a drink of water the video froze so Oppykins has a connection to water, Tim and Hoody take the pills to sheild themselves from the Operator's effect. Think of it.


So what you're saying is the ark (pills) travel through the flood (Tim's water) and save him (make him sane)? Confused

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ToTheArcanine wrote:
Mr_Slen wrote:

Just think of it, The Ark sheltered Noah and his family from the flood, In Entry #17 when Tim took a drink of water the video froze so Oppykins has a connection to water, Tim and Hoody take the pills to sheild themselves from the Operator's effect. Think of it.


So what you're saying is the ark (pills) travel through the flood (Tim's water) and save him (make him sane)? Confused


Yes

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