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Sha Noran
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 		I'm fairly certain we determined that the pills are anti-seizure medication, which would make sense considering TO's EMP-like effects and how they might overwhelm the electrical impulses that make our brains work.

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 		Someone mentioned a bit ago that right now there series has sort of hit a battle royal between the main characters and their motivations. But I've noticed something in this.

While Alex, Hoody, and Tim all have agendas that we may not fully understand, Jay seems to lack one now.

Jay's driving point was Jessica and being worried because he found out that it was his fault that she was dragged into this. This has been his motivation through Season 3. Season 2's motivation was piecing together the seven month blank, the seven month gap's motivation was helping/investigating Alex, and Season 1 was the mystery of the MH shoot.

Jay has been more or less used as a pawn through-out the series on top of that. With the most recent seeming to be Tim, but I think that Tim had Jay's best interests at heart. Hoody for whatever reason wanted Tim's hold over Jay broken, by which I mean the fact that Tim withheld this info and used it to manipulate Jay (even if Tim might have been doing it for Jay's own good).

Jay now lacks a definitive motivation which turns him back into a wild card that can be picked up by any of the three players or Jay can become a player in the game himself. Jay's next move is very important. Before now it has been shown that Jay's resolve can easily falter. In both previous, seasons Jay reached a point where he decided to no longer investigate. Though he ended up back on the trail again. So what will Jay do this time? He's got a lot of options.

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Marble Hornets
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 		Well Jay's only lead is going to that house listed on the Amy picture.

Tim has no other leads either, so I'm guessing we'll see the return of Masky vs Jay.

At this point it seems like Tim and Hoody only want to kill Alex and there's nothing really else they have motivation wise.

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wassupbro
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 		Yes but who has who

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geekgirlinthefedora
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wassupbro wrote:
Yes but who has who


I really think it's Hoody that's holding Alex. Hoody knew that Alex was hiding in the attic so it would have been easy for him to get the jump on Alex the next time he came down the ladder.

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Sha Noran wrote:
I'm fairly certain we determined that the pills are anti-seizure medication, which would make sense considering TO's EMP-like effects and how they might overwhelm the electrical impulses that make our brains work.

This was the impression I got as well...Not that the pills were fighting the operator, but that they interfered with the apparent storm of electrical activity that his presence causes, which we see in the form of camera distortion and seizures....It would be interesting to see what footage Jay could get of the operator from inside a faraday cage, if there would be any difference.
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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:

I really think it's Hoody that's holding Alex. Hoody knew that Alex was hiding in the attic so it would have been easy for him to get the jump on Alex the next time he came down the ladder.


BUT...After watching the videos, Alex would have known that Hoody, Tim, and Jay are aware of his location. This could lead to Alex preparing for a return of Hoody later on to find Tim's hidden pills which then causes the showdown between the two. Besides, if Alex got captured wouldn't Oppy come to save his ass once again?

All we know is that there was a struggle, someone one [edit: oh god, won**], and took the loser to 79 south creek.

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 		Now we run into an issue where we're supposed to believe that whoever is being held captive has been there for 2 weeks now, and will probably be there another 2 weeks before jay goes back IG

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TheJoker wrote:
geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
@TheJoker: I was thinking about the Shining to while I was writing my little essay. I can definitely see the parallels between Jack's and Alex's slow descents into madness.

Incidentally, I had an epiphany about why MH is like Shining a couple of days ago, but I can't remember what sparked it. I remember thinking the following:

-Alex, like Jack, starts off as one of the main protagonists and is slowly driven insane by supernatural forces (with some ambiguity as to how sane he was to begin with) and becomes a frightening psychotic murderer.

-The Operator, like the Overlook, is a menacing supernatural force whose mysteries start as the main focus of the plot, and while prominent throughout, sort of takes a backseat to the human antagonist in the latter parts of the story.

But what's annoying me is that neither of those is what initially led to my thinking they were similar. I don't remember what my third comparison point was, and it's driving me nuts.


Don't forget that both Alex and Jack were each working on a really, really terrible creative project as they went insane, and neither were able to finish due to their mounting psychological trauma. (If you read the book, King goes into some details about Jack's novel, and it is really just terrible).

There are so many theories rocketing around in this thread that I won't add any more of my own; I'm going to go ahead and quit speculating until we get more entries.

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geekgirlinthefedora
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 		Another point on the Shining parallels is that neither Jack nor Alex could escape the supernatural horror driving them insane. Jack was seriously snowed into the Overlook and had no chance of just driving away and Alex was followed by the Operator after driving who knows how many miles away to escape.

And I think that for both, after awhile, neither one of them was inclined to try to get away either. Jack destroys the snowmobiles that were the only hope of getting down the mountain and away from the hotel and Alex doesn't seem to be too inclined to run away when TO makes a surprise appearance anymore. They both seem to be actively working with the thing that's driving them insane.

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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
Another point on the Shining parallels is that neither Jack nor Alex could escape the supernatural horror driving them insane. Jack was seriously snowed into the Overlook and had no chance of just driving away and Alex was followed by the Operator after driving who knows how many miles away to escape.

And I think that for both, after awhile, neither one of them was inclined to try to get away either. Jack destroys the snowmobiles that were the only hope of getting down the mountain and away from the hotel and Alex doesn't seem to be too inclined to run away when TO makes a surprise appearance anymore. They both seem to be actively working with the thing that's driving them insane.
MHs has kind of taken a turn to nightmare on elm st with the pills. As soon as entry 73 came out it was the first thing that popped in my head. Both MHs and nightmare on elm st use medications to ward off the main antagonist. The pills made think of something, I think hoody and masky were under TOs control in seasone one and were definitely on TOs side during seasone one. My therory is while Tim was in and out of the masky state he was prescribed the pills by his doctor. Yes he has taken meds before but those particular ones were ineffective against TO. He starts taking the pills and its built up just enough in his bloodstream to break free from TO but not enough to go in and out his masky persona. Now with probally an uped dose and higher levels in his body, he doesn't become masky and can even completely stand ground against TO. As a side note: Tim (masky) probally never had enough pills to surfice for him and hoody. I could see hoody getting his pills by using his powers of speed, stealth, and teleportation to break into pharmacies.

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Sha Noran
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Marble Hornets wrote:
Now we run into an issue where we're supposed to believe that whoever is being held captive has been there for 2 weeks now, and will probably be there another 2 weeks before jay goes back IG


That's assuming they will still be there when Jay shows up with his handy-dandy camera. We the audience, Jay and Tim all thought Alex would still be in Tim's attic when they finally showed up, but lo and behold, he was gone. My God, its almost like there's someone competent writing the story! Perhaps there will be only the evidence of what occurred there. Perhaps there will be a tape of an interrogation left behind. Perhaps, as some have surmised, it will be a trap and there is no one being held hostage at all. Maybe its not a trap, but just a meeting place. Either way, apparently Alex, Tim and Hoody all know the address too, so my bet is Jay missed the party being too scared or hesitant to go, and will show up to find the aftermath of the confrontation and yet another tape.

Am I being too logical for you here or what? Yet another simple explanation for yet another of your grievances. And in the end, if someone is still being held there, that isn't that hard to explain either. You can feed a prisoner and give him a bucket to use as a toilet, and, especially if you absolutely despise the prisoner, you will not be bothered by the inhumane conditions. Still betting no one will be there and he finds a tape though, either that or its a trap. Or Tim will show us the tape of him going there after Jay ditched him.

searchanddestroy wrote:
I could see hoody getting his pills by using his powers of speed, stealth, and teleportation to break into pharmacies.


We don't really have any proof that Hoody can teleport at will, and I don't think any of the characters can. At least not at will, on purpose, with a destination they chose themselves.

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Sha Noran wrote:

We don't really have any proof that Hoody can teleport at will, and I don't think any of the characters can. At least not at will, on purpose, with a destination they chose themselves.

That just made me think about how much it would suck if one of the side effects manifesting with hoody was he randomly gets teleported around, with him having no control over timing or destination. That could explain why he needs help from Jay. We don't even know for sure that he controls the distortion in his videos. /shrug
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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and much too rare to die.

Chaos isn't a pit, chaos is a ladder.

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ReeseSparrow wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:

We don't really have any proof that Hoody can teleport at will, and I don't think any of the characters can. At least not at will, on purpose, with a destination they chose themselves.

That just made me think about how much it would suck if one of the side effects manifesting with hoody was he randomly gets teleported around, with him having no control over timing or destination. That could explain why he needs help from Jay. We don't even know for sure that he controls the distortion in his videos. /shrug


Haha that's why his videos don't make great sense, because he get teleported away from his computer regularly and has to do hours and hours of hiking to get back to his computer? Hence he wears a light Hoody in case of any weather? And his footage is short clips put together that sometimes seems disjointed or random because he doesn't make the video all at once, he instead know he only has a very short amount of time to generate a tiny bit of footage before The Operator notices and intervenes by teleporting him away again? And the short video length overall, the distortion, the insanity of the creator, and any delay between releases could be thus explained. That's hilarious and awesome, though I'm sure that probably won't end up being true.

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 		They all know the location. What if the climax of the series is a huge faceoff at that address. That would actually be intense

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