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TheOperator
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I'm not fully convinced but I've begun to seriously consider that Amy is a possible candidate for Hoody's identity. The main argument against her is that Alex saw Hoody unmasked in #68 and was aggressive, yet was shown to have had a photo of Amy in #75. So how can he act that way towards someone he still cares about? Well, if he did care about her enough to keep that photo, then he either is the one who's been kidnapped or he left it behind. I don't think he has been captured, though we'll see what happened either way next entry (most likely).

Hoody flees from Alex in #73 despite being armed and if recent tweets and tothearks are anything to go by, Alex is becoming less human and more of a force to be reckoned with. And would TO really allow Alex to be kept as a hostage for over a month? He goes after Jay for getting documents that reveal Tim's past but sees no problem with Alex being held captive by one of his greatest enemies for such a long period of time? I realise this isn't a fully solid argument, though fortunately it should hold more water by the time #77 comes out. My main point is that Alex would have had to have been captured in order for him to have both not taken the photo and still care about Amy. If he did just leave it behind, then why did he even have it in the first place? Either he didn't care enough (or ended up not caring enough) to go get it after Hoody struggled with him in the living room (assuming that's what caused the room to get messed up in #75) or it was placed there by Hoody. That'd make sense if Hoody is Amy. In this case, it actually deflects suspicion for Amy to place a photo of herself, since at this point Jay/Tim/the viewers are led to believe Alex wouldn't be so aggressive towards her.

Something that adds a bit more weight towards her being Hoody (I think so, at least) is what if Alex wasn't the one who sent Jay the Entry #26 tape? The writing on the tape, "WATCH THIS", fits Hoody's all caps, blunt way of writing more than it does Alex. Why wouldn't Alex explain things more clearly than "WATCH THIS"? I suppose you could argue residue slendersickness but the style does fit Hoody more than Alex.

Even more suspicious than the writing on the tape though, is the "HELP" message at the end of the footage. So Alex edited in "HELP" in giant letters with an operator symbol? Why? That seems kind of... extremely insane for someone who was trying to appear sane to Jay in S2 (not doing the best job of it of course but still). What if Amy was the one who edited that in and sent the tape to Jay? She was the one who had the camera, after all. Alex says he woke up after the events of #26 in his apartment with the camera. A very convenient story.

Anyway, I'm not saying Amy is my prime suspect, at least not yet. Just that it's not looking as impossible as I used to think. And I'd probably prefer it to be her than Brian anyway. 2+ years of mystery leading to a shockingly obvious reveal is not a good thing.

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I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...


Heh - or they'll cast suspicion on everyone and then reveal it was Brian Smile

(Which would be very, very Troseph. Actually, I'd like a bit of black comedy to that reveal - not camp, of course, but Brian say something along the lines of "Well, who else?")

Personally, I think we're going to find Brian more or less completly slendywiped in a hospital with no memory and conciousness whatsoever pretty soon. 'Cause Tim needs more PAIN. (Although I'm still very suspicious of Tim)

Or it could be like this:

JAY: Tell me who you are!

TIM: You're not ready to know!

(Rips off The Hood...to reveal nothing but empty air. The clothes slump to the ground.)

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Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...


Heh - or they'll cast suspicion on everyone and then reveal it was Brian Smile

(Which would be very, very Troseph. Actually, I'd like a bit of black comedy to that reveal - not camp, of course, but Brian say something along the lines of "Well, who else?")



I would be fine with this, I just really don't want it to be another TiMasky type reveal.

And I am also in favour of destroying EVERYTHING Tim holds dear! Twisted Evil

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...


Heh - or they'll cast suspicion on everyone and then reveal it was Brian Smile

(Which would be very, very Troseph. Actually, I'd like a bit of black comedy to that reveal - not camp, of course, but Brian say something along the lines of "Well, who else?")



I would be fine with this, I just really don't want it to be another TiMasky type reveal.

And I am also in favour of destroying EVERYTHING Tim holds dear! Twisted Evil


Joss Whedon turned you into a drama sadist, too? Smile

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Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...


Heh - or they'll cast suspicion on everyone and then reveal it was Brian Smile

(Which would be very, very Troseph. Actually, I'd like a bit of black comedy to that reveal - not camp, of course, but Brian say something along the lines of "Well, who else?")



I would be fine with this, I just really don't want it to be another TiMasky type reveal.

And I am also in favour of destroying EVERYTHING Tim holds dear! Twisted Evil


Joss Whedon turned you into a drama sadist, too? Smile


Indeed Wink along with a mix of Anime and mainstream films with nothing bad happen to the characters Razz

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Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.

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TheOperator wrote:
Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.


Ohhh, that's actually quite a good point. A very good point.

I still think Amy being Hoody is a red herring, however.

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TheOperator wrote:
Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.


This is a really good point! I still have no idea what #37 is about, or is trying to say, but it would be hard to get the source material unless you were very close to Alex, and possibly his family.

Also given how little we know about Amy I would say she's the most likely to have unmentioned hacking/editing skills

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
I hope you're right, it's a better reveal than Brian/Seth, I'd prefer it to be Jessica, but #76 established it can't be.
Another reason I like it is because it would be amusing in #76 where Alex asked if Jessica remembered Amy, in a 'SHE WAS JUST HERE' type thing.

Tbh I'd rather have no reveal than it turn out to be Brian I think...


Heh - or they'll cast suspicion on everyone and then reveal it was Brian Smile

(Which would be very, very Troseph. Actually, I'd like a bit of black comedy to that reveal - not camp, of course, but Brian say something along the lines of "Well, who else?")



I would be fine with this, I just really don't want it to be another TiMasky type reveal.

And I am also in favour of destroying EVERYTHING Tim holds dear! Twisted Evil


Joss Whedon turned you into a drama sadist, too? Smile


Indeed Wink along with a mix of Anime and mainstream films with nothing bad happen to the characters Razz


I'm certiantly not a neuroscientist, but you know what would really freak me out? We know that The Operator affects the memory and mental health and, but what if it starts to affect other part's of the brain as well? We've seen his presence affect other people differiently - what if Jay becomes blind and HAS to trust Tim?

We could have a whole entry of Jay at Tim's house or the hotel, and The Operator is just there and Jay never notices (perhaps they have to leave the camera rolling for awhile) or Tim randomly becomes Masky when Jay thinks he's out...

Or worse yet, Tim is coming back to the hotel with groceries with the chest cam rolling and opens the door, when The Operator suddenly appears and he reverts fully back to Masky and stumbles off, dropping the camera as he does so. Jay hears something, assumes Tim left the door open goes back to the hotel room with the camera still rolling. Alex turns up sometime later, and leaves a very bloody Hoody mask....

Afterwards, The Operator appears by the mask and stands over for it for awhile, and then disappears.

(Not saying this is the end, of course, but might be a cool scene and defiently set sometime after The Lodge)

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.


This is a really good point! I still have no idea what #37 is about, or is trying to say, but it would be hard to get the source material unless you were very close to Alex, and possibly his family.

Also given how little we know about Amy I would say she's the most likely to have unmentioned hacking/editing skills


We really don't know a lot about anyone else, really. Seth, for instance, could have been a very old friend of Alex's (which would account for his annoyance and hurt back in entry #15) . True, you'd think Jay would remember, but how long has his mental detoriation been going on for? How would you EVEN know what you'd lost? Jay forgot entry #18, it's not unfesiable that he forgot about how long two of his friend's had been friends for.

I'd trust Troseph not to overplay this card, though - as they can only really play it once.


But, this is pure conjucture on my part and your theory has much more evidence, though Smile I just can't shake off the feeling that any suggestion Amy is Hoody will turn out to be a red herring (meant to add this bit, sorry, guys)

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.


This is a really good point! I still have no idea what #37 is about, or is trying to say, but it would be hard to get the source material unless you were very close to Alex, and possibly his family.

Also given how little we know about Amy I would say she's the most likely to have unmentioned hacking/editing skills


Pretty sure its purpose was to show that Alex was being stalked since he was a kid. But wait, that wouldnt make sense with what Tim said about his hospital story. Things dont add up. Who had the first encounter?

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wassupbro wrote:
Amethyst.64 wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Something I forgot to mention, totheark had access to footage of Alex as a child. That'd be pretty hard to get, unless perhaps a member of totheark happened to be living with Alex for a period of time.


This is a really good point! I still have no idea what #37 is about, or is trying to say, but it would be hard to get the source material unless you were very close to Alex, and possibly his family.

Also given how little we know about Amy I would say she's the most likely to have unmentioned hacking/editing skills


Pretty sure its purpose was to show that Alex was being stalked since he was a kid. But wait, that wouldnt make sense with what Tim said about his hospital story. Things dont add up. Who had the first encounter?


Maybe The Operator was initially attracted to Tim (perhaps his anger and isolation from his condition?), but then found Alex a much more promising canditate? If Marble Hornets (the film) is any indication, Alex Kralie just doesn't 'get' people.

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Fair enough, we don't know anything about anyone really, but I like to think we can try and piece some things together, since, if we can't, what the hell are we all doing here?

wassupbro wrote:
Pretty sure its purpose was to show that Alex was being stalked since he was a kid. But wait, that wouldnt make sense with what Tim said about his hospital story. Things dont add up. Who had the first encounter?


Exactly, I, like many people (I think) thought Tim brought TO to Alex, as entry #12 seems to imply. #37 seems to contradict this entirely, but Tim's backstory backs it up.

*Something about them both being stalked from childhood, Tim could see him Alex couldn't, Tim meeting Alex allowed him to see him*
Kinda makes sense... right?

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
Fair enough, we don't know anything about anyone really, but I like to think we can try and piece some things together, since, if we can't, what the hell are we all doing here?


Sorry, if that came off as being a bit pouncy then it was intended to be, mate. I was just saying and didn't intend to be rude Sad Meant to add that I just couldn't shake off the feeling that anything suspicion regarding Amy will turn out to be misdirection.

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