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Amethyst.64
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Jordan wrote:
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Fair enough, we don't know anything about anyone really, but I like to think we can try and piece some things together, since, if we can't, what the hell are we all doing here?


Sorry, if that came off as being a bit pouncy then it was intended to be, mate. I was just saying and didn't intend to be rude Sad Meant to add that I just couldn't shake off the feeling that anything suspicion regarding Amy will turn out to be misdirection.


haha! I didn't interpret it as pouncy or rude Razz everyone has their own opinion Smile Personally I'm going to be disappointed if it's Seth or Brian though, unless they script the next entries very well, because I think Brian is too obvious, and Seth I don't think has had enough impact on the series, so revealing either of those 2 right now (for me) would fall flat. That's really the only reason I like to think it could be someone else.

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"I have him" could also mean "I know where he is" without any hostage situation.

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Amethyst.64 wrote:

haha! I didn't interpret it as pouncy or rude Razz everyone has their own opinion Smile Personally I'm going to be disappointed if it's Seth or Brian though, unless they script the next entries very well, because I think Brian is too obvious,


Ok fair enough.

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and Seth I don't think has had enough impact on the series, so revealing either of those 2 right now (for me) would fall flat. That's really the only reason I like to think it could be someone else.


Wait, what? If its anyone BUT Brian then we can say they had such little impact on the series. Who else would it be?

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Wait, what? If its anyone BUT Brian then we can say they had such little impact on the series. Who else would it be?


Good point.
But bearing in mind in general we're the die-hard fans who analyse and discuss it to great lengths, I have a number of friends who don't read the forums, and they completely forgotten who Seth is, so there's gonna have to be some rapid character development on his part, if hoody is Seth or the 'big reveal' will end up with many people saying 'what? who? oh, I kinda remember that guy'
Just what I think anyway, disregard it if you feel differently.

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Maybe The Operator was initially attracted to Tim (perhaps his anger and isolation from his condition?), but then found Alex a much more promising canditate? If Marble Hornets (the film) is any indication, Alex Kralie just doesn't 'get' people.


So TO likes maladjusted, argumentative people with dubious social skills? Well, it's official, we're all screwed. *lines up now to get official "I've been mindwiped" mask and jacket* Razz

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Amethyst, thank you for summing up what's wrong with Seth being Hoody so concisely. That said, for various other reasons I actually love the idea of TTA being Seth, but the only way that would work well would be if they spent a good five or six entries at least set in 2006 more prominently featuring and developing Seth. And, ideally, doing so without making it obvious that they're building up to his reveal as TTA. Which would be... difficult.

Also, I think 37 does indeed indicate that Alex was stalked as a child. Who said TO can only have one target at a time? Who said one of them had to be the one who lead him to everyone else? If he's based on the Slender Man, why shouldn't he have a thing for stalking kids like his source material?

As for the matter of Tim and Alex just "happening" to meet later in life, yeah, that's weird. I used to think that that wasn't a coincidence at all, though- maybe TO somehow set them up to meet up. Or maybe someone else did- after all, it was Brian, the most likely candidate for TTA, who introduced Tim to Alex. Maybe he's actually the connection here.

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They are milking it and drawing us out and they have been for a while now, though Troy does this because it is rational IG. They know the production schedule of the movie and have to draw out interest so it bridges into sales for the feature length film. This is obvious.


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Unless the movie is a direct sequel- unless it's anything other than a distant spinoff or a non-canon sequel/adaptation- it should be entirely irrelevant. No one already in the fanbase is going to lose or gain interest in watching the movie if the series ends before it releases. Those of us willing to give it a chance will still be willing if the series has been over for some time, maybe moreso having had no MH fix in a while. Those unwilling to give it a shot won't be convinced just because the series ended more recently. If anything, they risking losing viewers and fans by dragging out the main series, because it generally has only lost viewers as time goes on. So no, it's not "obvious."


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You all seem to think Brian has more relevance than Seth when he doesn't


Brian has only appeared in 2-3 more entries than Seth as a background character, and even then he only appears more times because he is an actor on set and most of the footage is from the film. Seth could very well have been in more entries than Brian just behind the camera. Seth was brought back recently in season 3 as well. We saw them both get taken. Brian does not have more "recognition" in the series than Seth does. Brian appearing more recently holds no significance. Seth's name was on Alex's papers so he's obviously still a candidate.

When seth is captured a frown face appears on the screen (representing hoody's mask), and there was a totheark video that said "regards" with an extra s underlining the whole thing at the end, not to mention the "s" we see in earlier tta's as well. Part of me thinks Alex told seth what was going on in entry 22, because why else would seth follow him into a creepy old basement?

Seth makes more sense because he would have knowledge of how to edit video as well as have all the b-roll tapes Alex didn't take (being the cameraman and therefore most likely editor). He would know about the operator during early stages of production even if Alex might not have, due to viewing that B-roll. This explains exit, and why he has footage such as alternate takes of entry 7.

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...Did you actually? Did you honestly just respond to my argument with "No, you're wrong about Brian being more significant" without doing a damn thing to explain why? Do you honestly not understand why I say Brian is a more relevant character, or the fact that there are a lot of viewers who don't remember who Seth is?

Seth has appeared onscreen twice. One of those occasions was for a few seconds where you'd barely even notice he was there, and the other was hardly a truly important appearance. He's silent and off-camera throughout most of 22, so it would be easy to forget who exactly was with Alex in that entry. Yes, he's been mentioned by name in a few other entries, but usually only in very offhand references, all of which are, again, entirely forgettable. You leave this forum and ask some of the casual viewers of this series (who do, in fact, matter as much as us on Unforum who constantly rewatch and analyze it) if they think Hoody is Seth? I guarantee the majority will respond with "Who?"

Brian may not be a more relevant person IG in the slightest, but at least people would remember who he is, considering all of his appearances onscreen have been longer than Seth's, his disappearance episode actually had him both visible and speaking throughout, he's been mentioned very prominently, multiple times as being Tim's oldest friend (which is a far more memorable thing than "Seth was sick today" or "I wonder if Alex deliberately lured Seth to TO like he did with Brian" or any other time they've mentioned him.) Yes, Seth's name appeared on a piece of paper. Congratulations, you've proven that they have not, in fact, retconned him out of canon! It doesn't make him a candidate for anything. Brian's name appeared too, if I remember correctly. Even f***ing Sarah had her name on that paper.

I agree with everything else. Yes, Seth does "make more sense" from an IG standpoint, and I'd honestly love it if they spent some entries building up his character and then revealed him to be TTA. But if they revealed TTA as Seth as things stand right now? No one's going to have any clue who he is. It would be worse than most twists in Scooby Doo. Amy and Brian are the only remaining characters who could be Hoody who anyone would actually remember existing.

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Things such as hoody in entry 42, Tim's limp in 45, Tim's face in the window of the building from 52... none of those things are things casuals will pick up on. They are building an in depth story that will require people to go back and watch to understand, case in point with the most recent entry. I have friends who have watched the whole series that couldn't recall who Jessica was.

Again, your argument is mainly "won't be seth cause he has less screen time than brian and therefore is less recognizable to the casuals" and that's not really a valid argument imo. The average casual fan wouldn't be able to recall Brian's name any more than they would Seth. The fact that they mentioned Amy's name and picture recently and she was only shown briefly one time shows that they aren't ditching previous cast members just because they haven't shown up in a while. Seth was still relevant in season 1 (his name was mentioned just as many times as brian's was, regardless of significance to plot he was still considered a sub-character just as brian was) and appeared in what, two less entries than brian in the entire 76 entry series? The best reveals are the ones people are not expecting, and things like bringing Brian to GMX could either be a huge red herring or a stupidly overlooked giveaway.

Brian being friends with Tim is the only valid argument there, but even then the evidence in Seth's favor is stronger. Brian is only an actor on a movie, he wouldn't know how to edit video like totheark knows how to. Marble Hornets is a series they want you to think deeply about and be "wow'd" with, so revealing Seth as hoody would be something nobody is expecting but also something that has evidence to back it up.

If we get a cheap reveal like... seth is totheark and brian is hoody, i will be so mad. Too many tta videos featuring hoody say "me" for that to sit well with me


That being said, calm down dude. That post was filled with more rage than needed to be

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Well as I'm not super clued up on the episodes as I'd like to be. When was the last time Seth and Brian were mentioned on camera. I.E what episode/s?
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Well as I'm not super clued up on the episodes as I'd like to be. When was the last time Seth and Brian were mentioned on camera. I.E what episode/s?


Seth last appeared in 54, Brian in 55

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Ok. So that said I think from relativity terms or how recent they have an equal chance of being Hoody. Cause if they were 1 episode apart people will pretty much remember them about the same amount if they are going to remember them at all.

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Ok. So that said I think from relativity terms or how recent they have an equal chance of being Hoody. Cause if they were 1 episode apart people will pretty much remember them about the same amount if they are going to remember them at all.


Except Brian's been on camera for more than one entry
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That's the point I'm trying to make. I can't remember that, I couldn't remember what the latest entry was that had either one in. So, how many other people are going to remember. If you don't remember how many entries they have been in or the latest one. They both have the same amount of credibility from the point

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Beidah wrote:
Hazman wrote:
Ok. So that said I think from relativity terms or how recent they have an equal chance of being Hoody. Cause if they were 1 episode apart people will pretty much remember them about the same amount if they are going to remember them at all.


Except Brian's been on camera for more than one entry


Seth has been on camera in 3 entries, Brian only 5 or 6

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