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[VIDEO] Entry #76
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TheJoker
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 		77? Next weekend, I hope. I hope.
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I feel you may not have seen that I made that list you asked about, Joker.

I did see it, and was going to make a post addressing it it once I had time, but then promptly forgot. My apologies. Very nice list, by the way. Here we go:

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When Alex is at Tim's apartment later, he says that he and Seth had been going over the MH footage.

Which is probably the biggest argument in favor of Seth being TTA. If he was reviewing the footage, he should have noticed something was up fairly early on. On a side note, is it then possible that 54 took place before they'd had any major encounters with TO that they'd actually recorded?

I do like this whole idea, and do hope they might revisit 2006, develop his character, and then reveal him as TTA. Or at least revisit his character. Because it would be really cool if he had known about TO the whole time and had been Alex's one confidant, and 22 was not a trap to kill him but actually the two of them trying to hunt down TO during one of Alex's lucid periods.

I also wonder about how well Alex knew each of the cast members. His interactions with Jay seem to suggest that they were probably pretty good friends, but how well did he know Brian? We know that he probably didn't really know Tim as well. But what about Sarah and Seth? I'd say they were probably reasonably good friends, if they were willing to put up with his shit throughout the filming.

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Entry #72 - Name appears to be crossed out on one of the pages found in Alex's old house. Weirdly enough, he has no page to himself like the rest of the crew.

Probably insignificant- there was probably just another page which we didn't get to clearly see. But it is weird, yes.

Overall, yes, he's appeared and been mentioned a handful of times, but I stand by that he has not been given enough focus yet to be a truly good candidate. Most of the references you mentioned were fairly offhand, and his appearance in 54 was so short (and the first onscreen appearance in such a long time) that I hadn't even realized who he was before he left the first time I watched the entry.

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Entry #7 - Rehearses his lines in the car with Alex. Ends up losing focus and laughing because of an unseen female, who Alex seemed to make sure to capture no footage or sound of. Later TO appears in the background and Brian is confused by Alex abruptly ending the rehearsal.


The girl in the car. Now there's something I always wondered about. Since they hadn't really planned out the series at the time, it probably wasn't originally intended to be Amy or Jessica or anything like that (or Antique Store Lady), but the fact that they made such a point of not showing her at all but mentioning her presence (when they could have just not had her in the car at all) makes me suspect one of the following:

1. Sarah was at that early stage intended to be a more prominent character (which isn't saying much for someone who appeared exactly once onscreen), so they wanted to make a point of mentioning her before introducing her.

2. It was meant to be someone else and that would be revealed later. If this was the intention even then, then whoever it was supposed to be has probably long since changed, but it's something they could easily retroactively work into the plot if they wanted to make it Amy or something. It probably isn't going to be addressed, but it could be worked into a plot point if they wanted. And they did just that with the static hole, so nothing's completely out of the question.

But if it is significant, it's not going to be Sarah.

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Entry #15 - Tim mentions Brian was the one who was friends with Alex, not Tim himself. Tim also mentions that he hasn't heard from Brian in a long while.

I wonder what Tim thought had happened to Brian? I've speculated before that people forget the people TO takes, but can remember them again if they see footage of them or are reminded of them by someone who remembers. Maybe that was the first time since 2006 that Tim had even recalled Brian's existence.

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Entry #17 - Half counts, Jay (badly) rehearses lines meant for Brian while Tim rehearses his own lines.

Was Brian's absence in this entry addressed by the characters? I feel like Brian's near-constant absence in 2006 could be a clue towards his having been involved with something already himself. I know in 20, Jay and Alex both note that they have no idea where he disappeared to, especially odd considering it's his own house.

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Entry #51 - Wanders around the abandoned hospital with Alex

Opinions, people- does Brian's behavior seem to you like it could be that of someone who already knew of TO's existence, but didn't suspect Alex's working for it? Does anyone think he could have even been suspicious of Alex already? I'm not sure myself, but both would be relevant if he were to be TTA, as Exit implied TTA was already doing his stalker thing and thus probably had some idea that something was up.

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Sha Noran
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 		Entry 17 is the infamous line implying Brian went to "get some snacks". Haha.

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I wonder if Brian was on OP duty that day, standing outside the window in the suit. Razz


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Sha Noran wrote:
Entry 17 is the infamous line implying Brian went to "get some snacks". Haha.

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I wonder if Brian was on OP duty that day, standing outside the window in the suit. Razz

I'm now imagining that Alex went insane over a prank. Laughing
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 		I believe Trosephim once said that was their favorite fan theory and they almost wanted to use that for the ending (not seriously, of course.)

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 		OOG:
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Given their zany sense of humor, I'm not surprised they love that idea. As a joke of course, but that would be a pretty lulzy troll move. Trollsephim!


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Sha Noran wrote:
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Given their zany sense of humor, I'm not surprised they love that idea. As a joke of course, but that would be a pretty lulzy troll move. Trollsephim!

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They should put that as an alternate ending. Mr. Green

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 		Something just occurred to me. We've all been speculating that Tim didn't want Jay to see this tape yet because if he knew Jessica was gone his motivation to continue would also be gone. I don't think that reasoning is correct.

What I mean is, I don't believe Jessica was Jay's main reason for keeping up... whatever it is he's doing. I'll explain: at the end of Entry #52, he said wasn't going to sit back and let Alex get away with this any more. He didn't say a word about finding Jessica; it was all about Alex. He stated clearly that the reason he returned to the Rosswood area was because he thought Alex was still there -if he was still alive. Again, not a word about Jessica. Then he got side tracked when he happened to see Tim, and focused on finding out his deal. In fact, we don't hear Jay say anything about finding Jessica until #63, when he's trying to convince Tim to help him. The next time we hear anything about Jessica is Entry #69, and it's Tim that brings her up. They're talking about their decision to leave Rosswood town and Tim points out that Jessica might still be there, and even asks "Isn't she kinda the reason you're still doing this?". And Jay actually stumbles for an answer, eventually stuttering out something about it not doing her any good to find her while Alex is still out there. And that's the last we hear about Jessica until #76, where he acts all broken up about her being gone.

All that makes me question how much of a motivation finding Jessica really was for Jay. I'm not saying he didn't care about it at all, just that it seems to me his top priority has been Alex, right from the beginning. First he wanted to rescue him, and now he wants to stop him. Although I can't help but notice neither Jay or Tim have stated how exactly they're going to do that; I doubt tying him up and handing him over to the authorities would accomplish anything.

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 		Put yourself in his shoes. He was responsible for what happened to her. If you were Jay, you would feel like you had to find her and save her. While it may not be the most important thing to him anymore, it certainly is a key factor

His main focus at this point has to be getting answers, having everything about what happened in the past few years explained to him because he' s still at square one

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 		You're right, it was definitely a driving factor, but Medusa has a very valid point- Jay had another driving motivation as well, being bringing Alex to justice. And he has more reason than ever to push forward with that. And with finding answers of any kind. It's only because of his deteriorating mental state that I'd worry about him quitting at all.

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 		Medusa makes an excellent point. This also makes me wonder if 76 in fact reinvigorated him in his quest to take Alex down, since clearly this would reawaken how Jay felt after Entry 52... Which was right when he vowed to stop Alex. Alex baits Jessica out into the woods, pulls a gun on her, is barely thwarted by a masked character, Jay does nothing to come to her aid... Remind you guys of 52 a bit?

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 		Tim: Jay, look, I know that video looks bad, but you can't quit. Not now.

Jay: Who said I was going to quit? I'm going to find Alex and shank his *expletives*.

Tim:.... Okay then. That works, I guess.

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TheJoker wrote:
Tim: Jay, look, I know that video looks bad, but you can't quit. Not now.

Jay: Who said I was going to quit? I'm going to find Alex and shank his *expletives*.

Tim:.... Okay then. That works, I guess.


I want to see this. So bad. So very very bad.

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 		...and now I have a mental image of Jay in a Batman costume: "I am the NIGHT! I am Justice!"

While bringing Alex to justice is defiently a prime motivator for Jay, I think we're going to see him being pretty despondent at the very least in entry #77. He's tried to save Jessica and failed, his only ally (from his POV) turns out to have been manipulating him (yes, he was distrustful of Tim, but he couldn't help but bonding with him somewhat after being isolated as well) , as well as Hoody and Alex's machinations, his mind is detiorating at incredibly rapid rate and his up agasint an immensly powerful supernatural entity which could be messing with his head at any point and he wouldn't even know it, factor in the four years of his life where he's gotten NOWHERE on all this, I'd be giving up as well.

I don't blame the guy for just caving in and giving up for a little while or giving. What can one ordinary guy do agasint all that? Yeah, Jay is an incredibly caring and compassionate human being, and we've seen that on various occasions, but what's been happening to him is enough to stall even the best human being in their tracks for awhile. As I've said before, I think it'll take Tim getting hurt (or possibly an innocent bystander who is caught up in everything by accident - a bit cliche, but it could be done properly) to get Jay back in the game again.

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Jordan wrote:
...and now I have a mental image of Jay in a Batman costume: "I am the NIGHT! I am Justice!"

Jayman: The Derp Night.
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