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Oriza
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ramiles wrote:
Has anyone clicked on the images at the end of Simulation 1? Some provide videos and one just takes you to a password box.


...Have you even read the thread? I'm tempted to just pre-emptively trout you every time you start typing :/

Please don't bump the thread with stuff that's already been discussed many times over...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:57 pm
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darlinikkisiks
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spec

Pausner wrote:
"Is it socially positive?", "I think we live in overstimulated times."

I think this first phrase is in reference to the scene in Videodrome in which Rena King, a TV show host, is interviewing Max Renn, Nicki Brand and Brian O'Blivion. Max is being grilled by King as she thinks his TV channel is not appropriate for public consumption. Nicki says the overstimulated bit

and "It requires two persons to open. Half to reveal, half to record to become total."

Still Videodrome reference.

In both cases I'm unsure what they mean for our purposes.

Re: @chromiumbower His name: Stringfellow, and not the handle, reference Stereo, one of Cronenberg's first experimental films. Very strange film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065036/

By the way on Twitter I am @pausner


Thanks for the connections! It's been too long since I've watched Videodrome, I'm going to revisit it tonight. I also tracked down a copy of Shivers in response to Dr. Grovenor's answer to @APB_art on Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/activity/?ids[0]=1501291488. Going to try for Stereo, too!

This may be obvious, but I think interacting with Dr. Grovenor, BMC, etc. within the context of Cronenberg's films and the material from the BMC website is the best way to draw out the experience. I used eXistenZ terminology in one of my questions and it seemed to please Dr. Grovenor: https://www.udemy.com/activity/?ids[0]=1501289974

My reading of the material suggests that POD will be focused on examining and guiding our mental states. Also, there's a more to discover regarding BMC's use of the data recovered by our PODs. They've directed a lot of attention toward themes that examine psychology and data science. The simulations are geared toward emotional experiences - trust, disgust, judgments, secrets, etc. Imagine if, once transplanted, our PODs glitched or misinterpreted an emotion and triggered in us an erroneous response to stimuli? Maybe this is what we witness in the security videos, or how we're deceived in the simulation videos, where we saw firsthand how easy it is to misread a situation. I'm excited to see what develops in the narrative.
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ramiles
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[quote="Oriza"]
ramiles wrote:
Has anyone clicked on the images at the end of Simulation 1? Some provide videos and one just takes you to a password box.


Sorry about that... Didn't realize the password was to http://cellarislocked.tumblr.com/.
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ramiles wrote:
Actually I am the oldest here.
I been a member since 2003 a year before you came aboard.. I am also 42.

OT:
Note I actually didn't say I was the oldest Razz just one of. So... yeah, whatever you said. Wink
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ramiles
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Udemy Couses.

Has anyone gone through the Udemy Course?
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alien123pred
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[youtube]http://youtu.be/FQ2NLSJhXqM[/youtube]

I found that while digging on the BodyMindChange twitter. They messaged @LeighYoungArt and when I when on her twitter I found a QR code in a vine video. It led me to this video: http://youtu.be/FQ2NLSJhXqM

Don't know what it might do, but though it was interesting.[/youtube]

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LeighY
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We had another visit to the BMC Labs yesterday (Nov 17). It started with me tweeting that APB_art and I were going to see Body Melt at the TIFF that night and hoped to see the labs again before they close. About 3 hours later BMC tweeted a vine that showed an envelope with my twitter name on it. Then about mid afternoon I saw that Max checked into the TIFF gift shop on Foursquare and left a cryptic photo.

So when we got there a couple hours after that, we went to the gift shop and tracked down what that photo was of. There's a display shelf holding books about Cronenberg and the photo was of one of them. I took a similar photo and posted it when I checked in at the TIFF.

We thought my envelope was up at the lab again so we headed up there. The doctor (they're doctors, not lab techs, my bad!) asked if I had a question for her. I was pretty sure that there wasn't a question like last time so I went back down to the lobby to ask around there. I went to the box office and asked if someone had left something for me, for @leighyoungart. One of the women behind the counter just reached back and gave me the envelope. I couldn't help myself, so I asked if anyone saw who left this for me. They described him and said he was going to a movie at 7:15. Well, that's the same time Body Melt was playing so I assumed it @Maxrennlives was going to the same movie as us and proceeded to have a very quiet and discrete freak out.

I found a quite corner and opened the envelope to find a printout of BMC's facebook post of my inked drawings of POD with a QR code on it. Since they sent me a message via Vine, I thought I'd do the same back. The red notebook is mine, I bought it this weekend just to keep track of everything. The QR code led me to a private youtube video (which was already shared here) of another printout of my art, with what looks like blood dripping on it.

I think Max Renn is sick, or getting sick, or something serious.

I went upstairs back to the lab to find APB_art chatting with the Dr.s and found out the security cameras weren't working! I was so set on recording them! One of the Dr.s (one who we met last week) said they stopped working after we left last sunday. I'm still not sure if they're legit, for real broken or "broken" broken, you know what I mean? So either we have a clue and don't know it, or they're really not working.



There's now giant tv screens in the lab that scroll people's tweets and show new stats about POD, like Toronto is more trusting, less disgusting.

We see what we can, do some "in game" chatting with the Dr.'s (there were 3 this time) and then head out for dinner.

About 30 mins before the movie we head back to the TIFF and check in to the movie there. Once we're sitting in the theatre we're checking our phones to see what's happening when I see Max check into the same movie. With a photo. Taken from the floor above the movie theatre floor. Of the floor the theatres are on. AND THAT'S US WAY IN THE BACK AT THE CONCESSION STAND. He bloody well saw us, knew who we were, and stalked us for a bit. I'm surprised the people in the theatre didn't faint from me sucking out all the oxygen with my ENORMOUS GASP. We eyeballed the door in and I think we saw him come in, can't be sure. As the lights were dimming we see him check is in to Luma, which is the restaurant/bar at the TIFF, he included the photo of a clue he left.

The movie was strange, gross weird and hilarious. It was also one of the longest movies I have ever seen in my life. (It was in reality only 85 minutes long!)

When it was over we left by walking across the entire front of the theatre so we could get a look at the people there and so Max could for sure see us. We get to the bar and sure enough, there's the clue! Holy crackers!




There's a photo booth in the TIFF lobby where you get your DNA scanned but there's a foreign DNA involved and you get a printout of your face and Cronenberg's face mixed together. This is how the photo was taken.

The back says:

"Prototype 416(square)
M(something we can't figure out)M CLR
If found please return to @MAXRENNLIVES"

And that was that.

Personally, what I took away from today was
Max is definitely secretly using BMCs social media feeds to send us clues
If you go to the lab, tweet BMC and tell them you're coming.

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Bartock
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Awesome Leighy. I definitely need to find some spare time to get there soon.

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Jibbles
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how did you recognise max? was it actually the actor from videodrome?

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ramiles
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Simulation 2 not open yet.
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ramiles
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LeighY wrote:
We had another visit to the BMC Labs yesterday (Nov 17). It started with me tweeting that APB_art and I were going to see Body Melt at the TIFF that night and hoped to see the labs again before they close. About 3 hours later BMC tweeted a vine that showed an envelope with my twitter name on it. Then about mid afternoon I saw that Max checked into the TIFF gift shop on Foursquare and left a cryptic photo.

So when we got there a couple hours after that, we went to the gift shop and tracked down what that photo was of. There's a display shelf holding books about Cronenberg and the photo was of one of them. I took a similar photo and posted it when I checked in at the TIFF.

We thought my envelope was up at the lab again so we headed up there. The doctor (they're doctors, not lab techs, my bad!) asked if I had a question for her. I was pretty sure that there wasn't a question like last time so I went back down to the lobby to ask around there. I went to the box office and asked if someone had left something for me, for @leighyoungart. One of the women behind the counter just reached back and gave me the envelope. I couldn't help myself, so I asked if anyone saw who left this for me. They described him and said he was going to a movie at 7:15. Well, that's the same time Body Melt was playing so I assumed it @Maxrennlives was going to the same movie as us and proceeded to have a very quiet and discrete freak out.

I found a quite corner and opened the envelope to find a printout of BMC's facebook post of my inked drawings of POD with a QR code on it. Since they sent me a message via Vine, I thought I'd do the same back. The red notebook is mine, I bought it this weekend just to keep track of everything. The QR code led me to a private youtube video (which was already shared here) of another printout of my art, with what looks like blood dripping on it.

I think Max Renn is sick, or getting sick, or something serious.

I went upstairs back to the lab to find APB_art chatting with the Dr.s and found out the security cameras weren't working! I was so set on recording them! One of the Dr.s (one who we met last week) said they stopped working after we left last sunday. I'm still not sure if they're legit, for real broken or "broken" broken, you know what I mean? So either we have a clue and don't know it, or they're really not working.



There's now giant tv screens in the lab that scroll people's tweets and show new stats about POD, like Toronto is more trusting, less disgusting.

We see what we can, do some "in game" chatting with the Dr.'s (there were 3 this time) and then head out for dinner.

About 30 mins before the movie we head back to the TIFF and check in to the movie there. Once we're sitting in the theatre we're checking our phones to see what's happening when I see Max check into the same movie. With a photo. Taken from the floor above the movie theatre floor. Of the floor the theatres are on. AND THAT'S US WAY IN THE BACK AT THE CONCESSION STAND. He bloody well saw us, knew who we were, and stalked us for a bit. I'm surprised the people in the theatre didn't faint from me sucking out all the oxygen with my ENORMOUS GASP. We eyeballed the door in and I think we saw him come in, can't be sure. As the lights were dimming we see him check is in to Luma, which is the restaurant/bar at the TIFF, he included the photo of a clue he left.

The movie was strange, gross weird and hilarious. It was also one of the longest movies I have ever seen in my life. (It was in reality only 85 minutes long!)

When it was over we left by walking across the entire front of the theatre so we could get a look at the people there and so Max could for sure see us. We get to the bar and sure enough, there's the clue! Holy crackers!




There's a photo booth in the TIFF lobby where you get your DNA scanned but there's a foreign DNA involved and you get a printout of your face and Cronenberg's face mixed together. This is how the photo was taken.

The back says:

"Prototype 416(square)
M(something we can't figure out)M CLR
If found please return to @MAXRENNLIVES"

And that was that.

Personally, what I took away from today was
Max is definitely secretly using BMCs social media feeds to send us clues
If you go to the lab, tweet BMC and tell them you're coming.



I think that's MBM
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LeighY
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I think it's a B too. Let's go with that.

I was told the person was tall, good looking, wearing blue coat.

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Oriza
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Simulation 2 just started up, everyone head over to BMC to continue growing your POD!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Kay has learned to talk...and she used to be human?!


I got this image from one of the last little video clips they show us:

Looks like there might be a bunch of letters/numbers in the top right corner.

I scored High Fear...and according to BMC I should become a counselor with the Somafree Institute of Psychoplasmics Confused
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Amelić
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Just completed simulation 2... I am seriously impressed by just how much this plays with your emotions.

Did anyone else get the video at the end saying "you are in the top 10% and we think you are almost ready to be a premier host" or something to that effect?

eitherway, I REALLY wish I was closer to the lab - I wanna go see my squishy kay Razz

EDIT: I just had a giggle fit, I just got this message on my twitter... now bare in mind I NEVER mentioned bieber AT ALL during the simulation.

"@amehsweet is angry at bieber for Hurting others #PODLOVESYOU"

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ramiles
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Oriza wrote:
Simulation 2 just started up, everyone head over to BMC to continue growing your POD!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Kay has learned to talk...and she used to be human?!


I got this image from one of the last little video clips they show us:

Looks like there might be a bunch of letters/numbers in the top right corner.

I scored High Fear...and according to BMC I should become a counselor with the Somafree Institute of Psychoplasmics Confused


That image is nothing but what you see in the next scene..
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