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The Isis Adventure & Puzzle
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ixalon
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 		The Isis Adventure & Puzzle
Nicely built tricky puzzle
On Jonathan Ross last week I saw a very nice looking and supposingly very difficult puzzle called the Isis, so whilst I was down in London for CubeFest I popped into Selfridges to get one. They're rather pricey, but I can see why, they're very well built )about 1kg of metal) and the internal mechanism sounds pretty complicated.

click here for image goodness (and superlong URL)

The instruction book contains 10 hints which have been encrypted (they sell the keys) but they're pretty easy to decrypt by yourself. However the puzzle is still tricky to open even with the hints (I've not managed yet... Grrr...)

Anyone else got one?

P.S. Expect airport security to have a good poke at one if you try and take it on a plane Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:14 pm
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rowan
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 		That does look nifty. They are giving away free ones to those who can solve a geo-caching puzzle first (tho you have to be in the UK to do it Sad )

You know, if anyone finds one and wants to give it to a gal across the pond, I can trade you an original drawing by a New York artist of a sad boxing catcus with stink lines (promised to one day be worth 10 times what I paid for it). I'll even throw in the mystical feather that was given to me by the artist as well. How could you possibly go wrong with that? Very Happy
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Kjtaylor13
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 		 I have One
Help with decryption
I have just bought one of these, after being beaten, by about 30seconds, to one of the free ones planted in delamere forest, here in the UK.

I could do with a pointer on how to start to decrypt the clues. Maybe a link to a site with decrytion methods.

Thanks in Advance

Kevin

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ixalon
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They're all simple substitution ciphers - guess a short word with a pretty easy to indentify pattern of letters which is likely to appear in the clues and start with the clues which mention it Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:43 am
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kjtaylor13
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 		 Thanks
Solved the clues now onto the puzzle
Thanks for the heads up, I was trying all sorts of different ways.

I've got all 10 solved now, even if one or 2 of the clues do have mistakes in them.

Now onto solving this sphere. Wish me luck

Thanks Again

Kevin

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ixalon
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 		If you make any progress on the first stage I'd love a hint...

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I just can't get the 3 ball-bearings to be heard and I've spent hours trying every combination.

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kjtaylor13
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 		Hieroglyphs
Started on decodeing them
Hi,

I've made a start on decoding the Hieroglyphs. Do we know if each isis has the same symbols on it?

I will post the symbols from my isis here so that others may compare with there isis.

I will use a font that I have found http://www.jimloy.com/hiero/egypt0.zip

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Just copy the following into word and change to the new font above.

Plunger (I Guess these are all the same)
BPBP

Starting with the "Placenta" reading from right to left
Ring 1
NU_ILJAK
Ring 2
NU_ILJAK
Ring 3
NJUEATLT

Note these are not translations. But the plunger obviously translates to ISIS


Can others please post there symbols here too.

Thanks

Kevin

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ixalon
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 		I'll post up the glyphs on the rings when I get home this evening, but I did try and roughtly translate the cartouches on the outer cardboard box:

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isis
mezi (?)
g(wa)ld (gold)
enti (?)
isis
rings
ball
megnit (magnetic?)

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ixalon
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 		Here's mine (along with phonetic and gardiner's sign code):

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Plunger cartouche:
i reed M17
s folded cloth S29
i reed M17
s folded cloth S29

Ring 1:
x placenta AA1
r mouth D21
a vulture G1
n water N35
h room O4
l lion E23
l lion E23
g seat W12

Gold sphere:
x placenta AA1

Ring 2:
x placenta AA1
k basket V31
h room O4
m owl G17
a vulture G1
w quail chick G43
g seat W12
n water N35

Gold sphere:
x placenta AA1

Ring 3:
k basket V31
g seat W12
a vulture G1
h room O4
k basket V31
s folded cloth S29
w quail chick G43
b foot D58

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agentwalker
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 		Hi guys i just picked one of these up the other day and only got as far as working out the clues.

Looking at what you posted my isis has exactly the same symbols as kjtaylor13's one posted above.

on the clues in the book i've got the all translated perfectly apart from clue 1 Crying or Very sad check spoiler for a bit more info please.

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from what I can make out it was something like "to begin you just need the plunger facing north__r_s"


so could any one help me clear that clue up as i think theres some letters wrong and i can't fully make out the last word.

Cheers.

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ixalon
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northwards Smile

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agentwalker
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 		thanks. Smile

how you getting on with it ? at the moment i've been playing with it twisting the rings clock wise, counter clockwise , upside down, right way up. with the plunger pressed etc but don't seem to be getting anywhere apart from a bad crap lol

any tips before I attempt to sneak it into the hospital and get it X-rayed

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ixalon
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 		Not very well at all

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It's hard to tell if two or three ball-bearings are moving, but I think it sounds different if you hold it upside down.

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agentwalker
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Yeah same here not sure if theres just the 1 ball at the moment, i've noticed that if you turn it upside down and listed to the balls in side and slowly rotate/move the ball around you can make the ball bearing sort of sit in a little hole inside stopping it moving


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Snaggleruk
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 		magnetic
there seems to be a magnetic component as iron filings from my sons chemistry set stick to certain areas. This thing is driving me nuts help out if you can anyone

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