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FalloutGhoul wrote:
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Like I said some months ago, people on the internet will argue about which side of the bed is best to sleep on.

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I prefer sleeping on the left side. Razz


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I always sleep on the right.

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I'm really bothered that Tim leaves him all tied up and doesn't lock the door.

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Something just occurred to me, in regards to the people suggesting Jay and Tim staged this video as a trap. If they did, what's with all the distortion? The distortion is implied to be triggered by the slendersick Jay getting so angry, he wouldn't be truly angry if he knew it was an act. And why would he bother editing in the distortion himself? It'd be unnecessary extra work for no pay-off. Still possible it's a master ploy by Tim with Jay being an unwitting pawn I suppose, though I don't think so. Definitely not jointly planned though.

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Beidah wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:
Beidah wrote:
Like I said some months ago, people on the internet will argue about which side of the bed is best to sleep on.

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I prefer sleeping on the left side. Razz


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I always sleep on the right.


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Whichever side is closest to the wall


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what's with all the distortion?


Excellent point, and I don't have an answer, I still really like the idea that it's a trap, but I don't think they are going to go down this road.

As I was writing this I had a thought - Tim has no motivation to find out what is going on atm if he becomes the protagonist. Maybe once he gets back Jay will be missing and from that point he could be searching for what has happened to Jay (mirroring Jay/Jessica, Alex/Amy)

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Amethyst.64 wrote:
Beidah wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:
Beidah wrote:
Like I said some months ago, people on the internet will argue about which side of the bed is best to sleep on.

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I prefer sleeping on the left side. Razz


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I always sleep on the right.


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Whichever side is closest to the wall


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Away from the wall for me. Spiders like to crawl down the wall. It's not a pretty combination.


Amethyst.64 wrote:
As I was writing this I had a thought - Tim has no motivation to find out what is going on atm if he becomes the protagonist. Maybe once he gets back Jay will be missing and from that point he could be searching for what has happened to Jay (mirroring Jay/Jessica, Alex/Amy)


So what I'm getting out of this is that Jay is now the damsel in distress. Razz

But seriously, I think Tim just picked up Jay's Idiot Ball and left without thinking it through properly. He just wants to get it done and over with while Jay has been derping around working on his hotel documentary.

If something does happen to Jay, I imagine Tim will have to deal with even more guilt, knowing that he left Jay in a vulnerable position like that.

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People have made a lot of theories about different actors playing the hooded guy because of OOG circumstances and the creators have shot them, down repeatedly as incorrect assumptions.

The only substantive hint of this we got was when Troy stood in for the hooded guy when they were PREPARING for Entry #45 on an extra for the Season 2 DVD; Troy says repeatedly that the actual actor (Whose name is censored) will play him in the actual filming of it.

There's no evidence that the hooded guy was ever played by anyone other than the person he's supposed to be. That's all been rumors and stuff. As a matter of fact, when talking about filming Entry #45 itself once, Tim explicitly mentioned "The guy who plays Hoody" in the scenario.

So yeah everyone always says that and it's not true or likely, but since everyone always says it I don't blame you for thinking so.


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Hoody definitely was filled in for by other people. In #45, they're skinny and pretty short, in #58 they're tall and lanky and in #66 they're big and broad. It's obvious, that's why everyone says it.

Now as for this information you've presented, are you sure they say the actual actor will play Hoody for Entry #45? This would be pretty big if true. I'll still need to see it for myself at some point. But if it is true, then that might mean Hoody's true identity is somebody with a small frame.


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Long-time lurker here, posting for the first time to say that Hoody was definitely played by Joseph in at least one entry (#39), which was specifically mentioned in the DVD commentary.

As for Entry 45, in the "behind the scenes" from the DVD, it's pretty much confirmed that Hoody was going to be played by whoever the "actual" actor is; it's even stated beforehand that "in the interest of avoiding spoilers, the actual name has been removed".


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chimichanga wrote:
TheOperator wrote:

DHawk314 wrote:
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People have made a lot of theories about different actors playing the hooded guy because of OOG circumstances and the creators have shot them, down repeatedly as incorrect assumptions.

The only substantive hint of this we got was when Troy stood in for the hooded guy when they were PREPARING for Entry #45 on an extra for the Season 2 DVD; Troy says repeatedly that the actual actor (Whose name is censored) will play him in the actual filming of it.

There's no evidence that the hooded guy was ever played by anyone other than the person he's supposed to be. That's all been rumors and stuff. As a matter of fact, when talking about filming Entry #45 itself once, Tim explicitly mentioned "The guy who plays Hoody" in the scenario.

So yeah everyone always says that and it's not true or likely, but since everyone always says it I don't blame you for thinking so.


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Hoody definitely was filled in for by other people. In #45, they're skinny and pretty short, in #58 they're tall and lanky and in #66 they're big and broad. It's obvious, that's why everyone says it.

Now as for this information you've presented, are you sure they say the actual actor will play Hoody for Entry #45? This would be pretty big if true. I'll still need to see it for myself at some point. But if it is true, then that might mean Hoody's true identity is somebody with a small frame.


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Long-time lurker here, posting for the first time to say that Hoody was definitely played by Joseph in at least one entry (#39), which was specifically mentioned in the DVD commentary.

As for Entry 45, in the "behind the scenes" from the DVD, it's pretty much confirmed that Hoody was going to be played by whoever the "actual" actor is; it's even stated beforehand that "in the interest of avoiding spoilers, the actual name has been removed".


They were just saying the name of the character that was supposed to be TTA, not that the OOG actor whose name was removed was going to play him. It's very obvious that in entry 45 Troy was playing TTA.

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I'm really sorry for sparking this whole topic.


That's okay. Just so you know, I'm really sorry for what happens later.


^^This comment fucking scares me more than anything else. I'm so sleeping with the lights on tonight.


Oh, don't worry. You'll never see it coming.



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Serum wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Serum wrote:
Vincent wrote:
I'm really sorry for sparking this whole topic.


That's okay. Just so you know, I'm really sorry for what happens later.


^^This comment fucking scares me more than anything else. I'm so sleeping with the lights on tonight.


Oh, don't worry. You'll never see it coming.



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Sha Noran wrote:
DHawk314's long post on page 17 was pretty awesome.


Thank you, I appreciate it! Now for a bunch of spoilered OOG shit.

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chimichanga wrote:
Long-time lurker here, posting for the first time to say that Hoody was definitely played by Joseph in at least one entry (#39), which was specifically mentioned in the DVD commentary.


You barely even see the hooded guy in 39 though, he's just this weird black silhouette thing. At that point the hooded guy hadn't even been revealed yet in his current form, so I wasn't counting that. But I suppose you're right, it probably was the hooded guy (Although technically that was never confirmed, just really heavily implied.) But there's still no evidence to suggest any actor besides the actor the character's supposed to be ever wore the hoodie itself on camera.

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They were just saying the name of the character that was supposed to be TTA, not that the OOG actor whose name was removed was going to play him. It's very obvious that in entry 45 Troy was playing TTA.


They weren't saying the name of the character totheark is supposed to be on the DVD, they were saying the name of the actor, that's what they said in the intro paragraph thing. Unless you think the DVD's intro paragraph was lying. Are you accusing a DVD intro paragraph thing of lying?

Mind you, if it's Brian or Seth then the name's the same, so I guess that's up to interpretation. My point wasn't that it isn't possible for him to be played by different people, obviously it might have been my point was that people say all the time that that's been "Confirmed" by "OOG" sources and that is false.

I can't find the source of Tim Sutton talking about the hooded guy in Entry #45. He was talking about when someone almost called the cops on them while filming I believe, and I think it was on his Tumblr account, but the fact that he specifically mentioned "The actor who plays Hoody," in a way that acknowledged his fanon name made it stand out in my memory. There's a low but real chance it was in a chatroom I.E. I was actually talking to him when he said it, in which case the source is gone. All I am sure of, is that it was years ago, but that he did actually say it. I don't expect you to take that as credible evidence since it's so badly sourced, I just remember it and thought I'd share it since we're discussing this.

I personally don't see the differences in body type throughout the hooded guy's appearances. I'm sure you could take screen caps and draw lines on it in MSPaint, CSI style, and don't get me wrong I'd applaud the effort, but his clothes and the weird angles we always see it at make me suspicious of that as real evidence. I personally think that even if it is different actors, that he looks so much like a man, it would be somewhat incompetent for them to use a male stand-in. I don't believe they use stand-ins though.

But he looks vague and it's hard to tell, so I respect the alternate interpretations, I'm just giving my opinion, and also mentioning on the side that it's never actually been confirmed OOG they use stand-ins, because everyone keeps saying that.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
DHawk314's long post on page 17 was pretty awesome.


Thank you, I appreciate it! Now for a bunch of spoilered OOG shit.

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chimichanga wrote:
Long-time lurker here, posting for the first time to say that Hoody was definitely played by Joseph in at least one entry (#39), which was specifically mentioned in the DVD commentary.


You barely even see the hooded guy in 39 though, he's just this weird black silhouette thing. At that point the hooded guy hadn't even been revealed yet in his current form, so I wasn't counting that. But I suppose you're right, it probably was the hooded guy (Although technically that was never confirmed, just really heavily implied.) But there's still no evidence to suggest any actor besides the actor the character's supposed to be ever wore the hoodie itself on camera.

Marble Hornets wrote:
They were just saying the name of the character that was supposed to be TTA, not that the OOG actor whose name was removed was going to play him. It's very obvious that in entry 45 Troy was playing TTA.


They weren't saying the name of the character totheark is supposed to be on the DVD, they were saying the name of the actor, that's what they said in the intro paragraph thing. Unless you think the DVD's intro paragraph was lying. Are you accusing a DVD intro paragraph thing of lying?

Mind you, if it's Brian or Seth then the name's the same, so I guess that's up to interpretation. My point wasn't that it isn't possible for him to be played by different people, obviously it might have been my point was that people say all the time that that's been "Confirmed" by "OOG" sources and that is false.

I can't find the source of Tim Sutton talking about the hooded guy in Entry #45. He was talking about when someone almost called the cops on them while filming I believe, and I think it was on his Tumblr account, but the fact that he specifically mentioned "The actor who plays Hoody," in a way that acknowledged his fanon name made it stand out in my memory. There's a low but real chance it was in a chatroom I.E. I was actually talking to him when he said it, in which case the source is gone. All I am sure of, is that it was years ago, but that he did actually say it. I don't expect you to take that as credible evidence since it's so badly sourced, I just remember it and thought I'd share it since we're discussing this.

I personally don't see the differences in body type throughout the hooded guy's appearances. I'm sure you could take screen caps and draw lines on it in MSPaint, CSI style, and don't get me wrong I'd applaud the effort, but his clothes and the weird angles we always see it at make me suspicious of that as real evidence. I personally think that even if it is different actors, that he looks so much like a man, it would be somewhat incompetent for them to use a male stand-in. I don't believe they use stand-ins though.

But he looks vague and it's hard to tell, so I respect the alternate interpretations, I'm just giving my opinion, and also mentioning on the side that it's never actually been confirmed OOG they use stand-ins, because everyone keeps saying that.

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Tim said on a podcast (around the campfire, i think) that the cops came during entry 46 bc they saw flashlights in the house and thought it was a robbery. Had nothing to do with hoody in that case, but granted there may have been another situation I'm unaware of.

And if you can't tell that it's troy playin hoody in 45 you need new glasses boyo. They generally only have the 3 of them to film with, and joseph and tim were already playing characters in that entry. Brian lives pretty far away OOG and I doubt they'd get him or seth to come in when they could have just used Troy (which they did). The build of him in 41 is, in my mind, undeniably Tim, and in the hospital entries when they see him walking around it's most likely Joseph. They really don't have any other people credited as being part of the acting cast in the DVDs, so Im gonna assume if there's an entry with hoody, whoever is not in the entry (jay, alex, or tim) will be the one to play him. The trio live pretty close to each other and it would be odd to pull someone else in to play hoody when one of them can do it, esp when they know what they want and therefore how to properly act it out


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TheOperator wrote:
Something just occurred to me, in regards to the people suggesting Jay and Tim staged this video as a trap. If they did, what's with all the distortion? The distortion is implied to be triggered by the slendersick Jay getting so angry, he wouldn't be truly angry if he knew it was an act. And why would he bother editing in the distortion himself? It'd be unnecessary extra work for no pay-off. Still possible it's a master ploy by Tim with Jay being an unwitting pawn I suppose, though I don't think so. Definitely not jointly planned though.


Maybe is just Tim the one who is doing that trap thing using Jay?
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Also why would Tim wait this long to go to the house? If he was going to go why not just go as soon as Jay stole the tape from him and left? For all he knew Jay could have gone to the house without him...

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Maybe he was hoping Jay would come to his senses and see reason, and they could go together.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
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Tim said on a podcast (around the campfire, i think) that the cops came during entry 46 bc they saw flashlights in the house and thought it was a robbery. Had nothing to do with hoody in that case, but granted there may have been another situation I'm unaware of.

And if you can't tell that it's troy playin hoody in 45 you need new glasses boyo. They generally only have the 3 of them to film with, and joseph and tim were already playing characters in that entry. Brian lives pretty far away OOG and I doubt they'd get him or seth to come in when they could have just used Troy (which they did). The build of him in 41 is, in my mind, undeniably Tim, and in the hospital entries when they see him walking around it's most likely Joseph. They really don't have any other people credited as being part of the acting cast in the DVDs, so Im gonna assume if there's an entry with hoody, whoever is not in the entry (jay, alex, or tim) will be the one to play him. The trio live pretty close to each other and it would be odd to pull someone else in to play hoody when one of them can do it, esp when they know what they want and therefore how to properly act it out


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First of all I do need new glasses, secondly I remember the thing he said about 46 and wondered if I was getting them confused, but no I'm sure it was a different thing. I might be getting the cop thing confused but I'm pretty sure he mentioned the actor who played Hoody talking about Entry #45. But it's not worth fighting over. I stand by my position that if they do change up the actor, they wouldn't use a male stand in for a female character, at least not for a character as masculine looking as the hooded person looks to me.


But I don't wanna debate about whether or not the hooded guy is in fact a guy, it gets heavily subjective fast. I'd rather suggest theories about his motives, or perhaps discuss how thematically different totheark is from Jay, with Jay being incredibly close to the audience to the point of nearly being a surrogate for it, and totheark being about as far away from the audience as possible; they're incredibly indirect with their meaning, and essentially enigmatic as one possibly can be.

The hooded person demonstrates this perfectly, because he (or she) never speaks and, perhaps most explicitly, wears a mask, hiding who they are. Masky also showed this well, and in a sense, having a character whose is so distant in that sense is disturbing. This very well may be why the Operator, who literally has no face, never talks, and is most distant from the audience by far, is so frightening.

In a sense having a narrator who is so close to us like Jay creates dissonance in a series about the Operator, a figure so far from us. Perhaps this is why it is so disturbing to see Jay slowly go insane, to drift away from us. What are the implications, do you think, and I direct this question at everyone, that while Jay gets farther and farther away from us, the character that replaces him is Tim, a character who, at a time, was as far away from us as a character can be without being Slenderman.
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