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device
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Why does Tim know the place better? Maybe this:

Entry 70: Alex says to Amy: Yeah. Oh, um, I forgot to tell you this the other day. I found out that one of the guys in the movie is actually from that area around your school. (Hmm.... Tim? Or even Hoody, since he's actually been keeping Alex prisoner there a while?)

Also, maybe the knife is not for Jay to defend himself with... Sad
Maybe something more sinister.

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Marble Hornets
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device wrote:
Why does Tim know the place better? Maybe this:

Entry 70: Alex says to Amy: Yeah. Oh, um, I forgot to tell you this the other day. I found out that one of the guys in the movie is actually from that area around your school. (Hmm.... Tim? Or even Hoody, since he's actually been keeping Alex prisoner there a while?)

Also, maybe the knife is not for Jay to defend himself with... Sad
Maybe something more sinister.


I think it was obvious that Tim went to school here. We're pointing out more the fact that Tim knew where to go to find that clue. Pretty sure Jay even points out Tim was looking for that specific room.

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Also, maybe the knife is not for Jay to defend himself with... Sad
Maybe something more sinister.


I think if Jay finds Alex tied up in Benedict Hall, he'll try to torture answers out of him. Hopefully Tim, Hoody or TO will intervene if that happens, because I don't want to see Jay descend into evil.

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device
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But wasn't Tim trying the doors to several buildings before going down the stairs and ducking under that panel to get into the building? Wasn't he just searching all the ones he could get into? He didn't try that one first.

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But wasn't Tim trying the doors to several buildings before going down the stairs and ducking under that panel to get into the building? Wasn't he just searching all the ones he could get into? He didn't try that one first.


He completely skipped over the building Jay was in, and went to that one. I think the only other building we see him try to get into is the one Alex was being held in. The path to that room was not exactly linear, it looked like Jay had to climb over something to get to the passageway Tim was nearing.

I guess it's possible he didn't know where to go, but I'd like to think Tim is in the know.

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JackSlenderman
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Zarggg wrote:
In the end, complaining over how the series is presented on YouTube is irrelevant to the actual events in the series. The argument has been done to death, repeatedly.

Please move on.


No, it's really not irrelevant.
And even it was, so what? If users enjoy discussing it, then maybe you should just leave them alone.
There are many discussions that have been "done to death" in all these threads.
Maybe new people wish to discuss those "done to death" topics? - maybe you shouldn't worry about it?
Isn't this place for DISCUSSION?
I hate boards with these power-tripping moderators who have to regulate everything and censor everyone for no reason.
I suppose you'll ban me now just to prove how tough you are.
But just remember nobody had a problem here until you came along.
Luckily I can speak the truth because I really don't care what you do.

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JackSlenderman wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
In the end, complaining over how the series is presented on YouTube is irrelevant to the actual events in the series. The argument has been done to death, repeatedly.

Please move on.


No, it's really not irrelevant.
And even it was, so what? If users enjoy discussing it, then maybe you should just leave them alone.
There are many discussions that have been "done to death" in all these threads.
Maybe new people wish to discuss those "done to death" topics? - maybe you shouldn't worry about it?
Isn't this place for DISCUSSION?
I hate boards with these power-tripping moderators who have to regulate everything and censor everyone for no reason.
I suppose you'll ban me now just to prove how tough you are.
But just remember nobody had a problem here until you came along.
Luckily I can speak the truth because I really don't care what you do.


I agree they aren't irrelevant, but he is simply enforcing rules set by the admins. Dumb rules, but rules nonetheless.

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Kraliesrockofepic
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Sorry I've been gone for so long... my laptop screen was completely demolished. I'm back now and I have to say I really like this entry. Kept me on the edge of my seat.

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JackSlenderman wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
In the end, complaining over how the series is presented on YouTube is irrelevant to the actual events in the series. The argument has been done to death, repeatedly.

Please move on.


No, it's really not irrelevant.
And even it was, so what? If users enjoy discussing it, then maybe you should just leave them alone.
There are many discussions that have been "done to death" in all these threads.
Maybe new people wish to discuss those "done to death" topics? - maybe you shouldn't worry about it?
Isn't this place for DISCUSSION?
I hate boards with these power-tripping moderators who have to regulate everything and censor everyone for no reason.
I suppose you'll ban me now just to prove how tough you are.
But just remember nobody had a problem here until you came along.
Luckily I can speak the truth because I really don't care what you do.

Um... okay then, bro. You're new here, so I'm sure in due time you'll learn that practically no one ever gets banned here (even if they really should be) and that Zarggg is pretty laid back. And perhaps to read more carefully, considering that in his posts he also mentioned the fact that there are, in fact, other threads in this forum in which you are allowed to discuss those matters. Such as this one dedicated to that exact topic which no one ever seems to remember exists.

And the issue isn't that it's "done to death", so much as that discussions of the OOG quality frequently get really hostile really fast.

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This Entry wasn't my favorite, primarily because Jay just seems so fuckin stupid its painful to watch. I can let that slide due to his extremely well established derpiness and his deteriorated sanity, but man... Still enters abandoned buildings alone despite years of REALLY bad fucked up shit happening to him, fails to capture or identify Hoody, doesn't try speaking to Tim, does a terrible job of "sneakily" following Tim (and derp points to Tim as well for somehow not noticing...), knocks over that loud metal chair at the worst moment ever, loses Tim, doesn't look under suspicious tarp, takes possession of a possible murder weapon (which now had his fingerprints and not Hoody's cause, ya know, gloves...), finally gets told exactly where to go and what to do and instead decides to WAIT AROUND and play "I Spy" with the camera trained on him in a dramatic, determined pose. What, is he waiting for night? Because that's always a great idea with murderers and monsters!

I find it interesting that he's basically squatting in an abandoned building and stalking/filming people... Reminds me a lot of Hoody's behavior exactly.

I am glad someone pointed out that he could've used his smartphone to upload; that makes even more sense than finding magically unprotected WiFi at a college or especially any theory involving leaving to upload. The whole point is he's staking out the building, leaving for any reason makes the rest of the vigil pointless.

The X-Acto knife is a much more dangerous alternative to a dull little pocket knife. Its seriously a razor blade on a stick. Much more difficult to wrestle from someone's grip without ending up cut.

Hoody fleeing from Jay in this Entry is actually consistent with his behavior in 78, if you think about it. He left Jay the knife and camera, jotted a quick note on the mirror and bailed. He has always done everything he could possibly do to avoid contact with Jay directly, because he is intent on hiding his identity. He knows as well as we do that if Jay gets to him, he'll unmask him on camera and put the video on YouTube, revealing his identity to any and all interested parties. Also I think he's been in a weakened and vulnerable state for some time now, and especially when having one of his seemingly rare coughing fits.

So, I was right about Hoody having taken Alex hostage and Jay finding the evidence of the interrogation at the address... Sorry, I have to: Told ya so! Obviously other people said and thought this too, but being able to call told ya so in such a mysterious show is gratifying. Smile

FIND ALEX. FIND THE ARK. This is exciting to see, but I'm finding that trying to interpret anything from it is difficult. The ark is as mysterious as ever, but clearly we will know soon. I'm still betting on it being where Bruce and Jessica were taken, and where Tim seemed to go in 65. TO's little pocket dimension.

I loved this location. Very creepy and very well used. Reminds me of the abandoned hospital - it seemed TO was going to show up at any moment, and I'm actually glad he didn't. The suspense was amazing, and at this point in the series, TO appearing when the suspense is so high is more likely to make me sigh and roll my eyes than jump and yell out in fear.

Well done Entry suspense wise, but Jay's derpitude was really off the fucking charts. Having an inept main character is a bold writing choice that will probably pay off in the end, but in entries like this, its painful.

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PsychoHippie
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Sha Noran wrote:
(and derp points to Tim as well for somehow not noticing...)

Unless he was merely PRETENDING to not notice...

Sha Noran wrote:
Having an inept main character is a bold writing choice that will probably pay off in the end, but in entries like this, its painful.

Didn't Lovecraft specialize in incompetent or at least painfully outmatched protagonists? Perfect for the horror genre, as their stupidity only increases the danger they are in...

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adaminator1
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Sha Noran wrote:
This Entry wasn't my favorite, primarily because Jay just seems so fuckin stupid its painful to watch. I can let that slide due to his extremely well established derpiness and his deteriorated sanity, but man... Still enters abandoned buildings alone despite years of REALLY bad fucked up shit happening to him


When you have been dealing with this for years, and try to run away, then the stuff keeps coming back to haunt you, there comes a point where you stop running and have to figure shit out.

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fails to capture or identify Hoody,


Hoody is a beast and really fast, and Jay isn't skilled at this sort of thing, and Hoody's had years of experience so far so of course he'd get away with a situation presented as it was.

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doesn't try speaking to Tim,


That would go down really well, wouldn't it? *Thinks back to the last time Jay tried to speak to Tim* I guess not.

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does a terrible job of "sneakily" following Tim (and derp points to Tim as well for somehow not noticing...),


I thought he actually did a pretty good job, personally, though there were a few moments I cringed too.

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knocks over that loud metal chair at the worst moment ever,


Accidents happen, it ain't unrealistic for one inexperienced in stalking someone-- in the dark, no less-- to accidentally knock somethin' over.

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loses Tim,


Fair point. Though I don't think catching him was the objective here.

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doesn't look under suspicious tarp,


Also fair point.

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takes possession of a possible murder weapon (which now had his fingerprints and not Hoody's cause, ya know, gloves...),


Given who and what he was dealing with, being armed is not a bad idea. The fingerprints thing is dumb, yes, but I think the immediate need for something to defend yourself just in case things go south was more at the forefront of his mind (and reasonably so) than consequences of a fingerprint scan.

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finally gets told exactly where to go and what to do and instead decides to WAIT AROUND and play "I Spy" with the camera trained on him in a dramatic, determined pose. What, is he waiting for night? Because that's always a great idea with murderers and monsters!


Day hasn't been particularly good for anyone in Marble Hornets either, remember. And I would think twice before breaking into a public building too, so I guess he's just waiting to make sure that's his only course of action.

So yeah, I disagree on some points about derpiness. The good folks in this forum don't give Jay enough credit, I think. Though him moving in clear sight where all Tim would have to do is look behind him to see him is a little derpy-- However, interior-wise, Jay was pretty good at avoiding getting seen.

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Ithilwen22 wrote:
Okay, I'm saying it right now-Hoody has a very masculine cough.

Now that could mean he's Bruce from the future, but darn it that did not sound like a female coughing.


I'm not ruling out the possibility that Hoody is Lindsay Lohan.

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PsychoHippie wrote:

Didn't Lovecraft specialize in incompetent or at least painfully outmatched protagonists? Perfect for the horror genre, as their stupidity only increases the danger they are in...


The whole point of most of Lovecraft's stories was that humanity is hopelessly outclassed, outgunned, and are practically unable to do anything except lose. At least, that's how I took them, and was the stance I took in my thesis Smile. You're right to draw the parallels here, as others have; there really isn't much that those involved can do against the Operator-- except, of course, take some pills.

Very good points by Marble Hornets and others about Tim appearing to know the layout, at least generally speaking, of the campus. He didn't bat an eye before climbing down those stairs and crawling under that weirdly low entry (the design of which strikes me as really odd; does anyone know why it would be constructed like that?).

I find it suspicious that Tim went right down there and seemed (to me) to head pretty much straight for the room Alex formerly occupied. In my opinion, this seems to indicate that he either was told where to go, he had been there before and knew that's where Alex was being held, or he had done some exploration of the campus (likely from having attended class there, as others have speculated) and figured that would be a good spot to hold somebody. As of right now, I find the third option here the most likely.

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Master of Octopi wrote:


The whole point of most of Lovecraft's stories was that humanity is hopelessly outclassed, outgunned, and are practically unable to do anything except lose. At least, that's how I took them, and was the stance I took in my thesis Smile.


I agree completely. In fact, I think it's the Lovecraftian flavor of this whole series that has me hooked. J

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