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[Trailhead] Apocalypse of MoP / Cr0n
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zac
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Joined: 16 Apr 2014
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Hm, reading back through the forum I can see why some of you are getting annoyed with the game. I've not been playing for very long so I haven't got bored with it yet. I'm still discovering all the little things and completing the cr0n missions. I'm finding the missions interesting, but I don't understand how everything fits together. I'm hoping this will develop into an interesting story, and will be worth the repetitious nature of the MOP forms.

I'm quite pleased I figured out the code for the memo in the Dark Earth mission. See below for a hint:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It's encoded using decimal Ascii codes. Group the numbers into sets of 2.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:58 am
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lyndaclark
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Thank you so much for that! It was driving me crazy! I'll never understand how people can work out what those codes are without help.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:05 am
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mrshomersimpson
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I think I just need a moment to punch a wall here.

Having been a participant in this game from almost day one I find myself growing increasingly ANNOYED at the lack of communication.

One of the key words here being INTERACTIVE. Its not interactive if you send mop an email for help and they don't reply for like 2 weeks. Its not interactive if you mail cron and wait another 2 weeks for a reply. That is NOT interaction.

The forms are starting to just really grate me - i enjoyed it, but today while sorting over form DOC-MOPTRA-5K-ELER8V-ENOE I noticed the case was scanned in united states and the guy worked in Orlando airport. The report was created in airport: FCO that's in Italy!!!

Anyways they said it was wrong because i highlighted FCO and united states. I emailed help to let them know that the code for Orlando airport is actually MCO, will i get my points back? Probably not. Will i get a reply from them this month? Probably not.

Now in addition this new cron mission. It took me like 30 seconds to recreate the birth certificate but i cannot for the life of me find the error on the nodes! I literally last night just started throwing guesses at it - they tell you to go and ask for more intel! WHATS THE POINT!? no one will message back for like a week.

This has been something that's been a point of discussion for a few of us on Skype now for a few weeks.

I know its not just me who feels like this! Maybe i'm the only one who is so vocal about it but we need communication - we need to not be waiting weeks and weeks for something. I understand that being a PM is a hard job and i get how much time and effort must go into creating these documents but what i don't get is the fact that they don't seem to be able to multi task at all. Its like they release a mission then disappear with no communication and then come back with a new mission then disappear again. I will do the forms. I will play the game - granted my in game character is a pain in the ass but regardless of that they need to communicate with the players more.

Silence is NOT golden sometimes. In a team as big as the collaborative running this game it shouldn't be hard to have one or two dedicated people who answers emails. If there is a solid plot in place and there is a solid formulated plan then nothing will de-rail the game. So the fact that they might have to check with one PM before committing to saying something in an email is not a valid point for them to use.

Not to mention that when they do reply they can rude. I have had to call them on being rude now at least twice. I can give as good as i get when it comes to snipes. It's not something that really bothers me per say but i know a few others have also mentioned to me they found some of the emails they received blunt and rude. I wont mention names - that's not for me to do but if they want to come on here and confirm then that's great if not then fine i don't mind. Its not cool to insult players ( even by accident ). At the end of the day, if we walk away then the game dies. Which would be a shame.

I have no idea where the plot is going at this point. I thought it was a 6 month thing - we are currently on month 6 i think and this is us only just finishing dark earth. I don't see this being the last cron mission set given the amount of loose ends needing tied so i think the timeline is off.

Getting rid of the leader board was a fantastic idea however - so props to who came up with that idea.

I hope they take on board the communication thing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:20 am
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kira1000
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I agree wholeheartedly, having dealt with cr0n and MoP before I can say that they take way too long to respond to the e-mails sent by their players. 2 weeks is NOT interactive, it is especially bad when a performance period only lasts a single week. What if the form had been the deciding factor between staying at your current rank or going up and you miss out just because THEY made a mistake (not happened to me, just giving an example). Also, the fact that certain team members can be quite rude goes against one of the main rules of running an ARG-DO NOT INSULT YOUR PLAYERS.

Silence is NOT golden in a game where 1-2 weeks can mean the difference between leveling up, staying at your current rank or going down one. There have been some occasions when I have missed out on ranking up because I have needed to clarify something with the people at MoP and they have taken too long.

Finally, there is also the matter of the sheer amount of mistakes made when rolling out a mission, there have been several occasions where a mission is supposed to be added but it gets removed again instantly for NO APPARENT REASON, surely the job could be handled better then that.

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:28 am
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lyndaclark
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I always thought the whole rudeness thing was just the style of MOP's sarky corporate overlords. I've never had anything particularly rude from Cr0n, although they are sometimes a little frustrating (eg. when I've pointed out/queried a discrepancy, they've seemed a little hazy over whether it was intentional or not, which doesn't really help when it comes to solving stuff!)

Anyway, if anyone's still playing this, I'm now totally stuck on both the 'document inspection' aspects of the latest Dark Earth mission.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
For the Flight NA-2511 part, the only remotely weird thing I could see was two passengers not having recorded birthdates, but I couldn't find any way of submitting that as a thing. For Gerald's papers, putting together the shredded birth certificate was easy enough and shows he was actually born on June 19th 1891, not July 7th 1932 as indicated in other parts of the mission. I wonder in that case if they're implying the Gerald Schine who adopted Eva is someone with a fake identity? Either way, I can't find anything in the nodes section of the mission to submit this. I even google translated the list from Father Hadean! It's just a list of prisons, correctional institutions and a hospital for inmates at various locations around Eastern Europe/Russia. Can't see any link between that, the death certificates and the adoption certificate.

Not sure whether to bother contacting Cron, as I'll literally just be saying: Please tell me the answer, I have absolutely no idea what you want from me anymore!

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:03 pm
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mrshomersimpson
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Hi linda

Edited because I'm a Noob who can't read properly LOL

Edited again because im not sure if you need the answers for the NA flight thing mission? If so i can give you those just let me know here and il post the solutions. If not that then see below.

Yeah im stuck on the same thing - took me like 30 seconds to recreate the birth certificate which actually wasn't that easy of a task given you cant swap the parts around in game

Same on the nodes linda completely at a loss as to what could be wrong - last night i spent a good hour just submitting everything in a rotation until eventually i just gave up.

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Not sure whether to bother contacting Cron, as I'll literally just be saying: Please tell me the answer, I have absolutely no idea what you want from me anymore!


LOL i died laughing ^^ - i feel the same My message would literally be please help me i have no clue. will to live fading. Tell me the answer.

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:22 pm
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lyndaclark
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I've done the Flight Change record one, but I'm stuck on the Passenger Manifest part, so any help with that would be gratefully received!

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mrshomersimpson
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lyndaclark wrote:
I've done the Flight Change record one, but I'm stuck on the Passenger Manifest part, so any help with that would be gratefully received!


OK no worries Smile

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
click on passenger manifest and then highlight content ( so it goes red )

then click on schine, Gerald Stanley and highlight his name ( so it goes red )



And then click submit! Very Happy let me know if you have any luck with this new mission and its nodes!

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lyndaclark
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Excellent, thanks! I'm still not entirely sure why that was the solution, but at least it's done! Still no idea about the other part of the mission though. Mad

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mrshomersimpson
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lyndaclark wrote:
Excellent, thanks! I'm still not entirely sure why that was the solution, but at least it's done! Still no idea about the other part of the mission though. Mad


you know I have no idea why that was the solution either. I found multiple errors with that part of the mission - and tried several solutions such as the names not being ticked off which would suggest the air Steward tried to cover something up but alas not the answer.

I messaged cron this morning and told them I just wanted the answer to the nodes on this new mission because sick and tired of guessing AND im so tired of looking at creepy father Hadeans face. Its not right. I pretty much told them at this point I didn't even want a hint. Just the answer and what to click to get rid of it.

The worst bit is i know its going to be something totally stupid - if i fail to see the error then it means I am starting to lose the storyline. Honestly i have no idea why a folder for an adoption would contain 4 death certificates?! - was that the error? NOOOOOO apparently not. I also have no idea what a list of correctional institutes ( thanks Google translate big shout out to you ) has to do with anything even remotely to do with an adoption but alas that's not the answer either. Nothing i click - and believe me i clicked a LOT of nodes, even to the point where it just flashes up , yeah. Not it now when i submit!

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zac
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I got the flight NA one on a fluke as well, I think it's to do with the fact Gerald is not ticked off in the list.

I'm also stuck on the latest nodes one. It is very strange that the priest has a folder with all those documents in. The priests look very evil and suspicious...

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:39 am
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mrshomersimpson
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zac wrote:
I got the flight NA one on a fluke as well, I think it's to do with the fact Gerald is not ticked off in the list.

I'm also stuck on the latest nodes one. It is very strange that the priest has a folder with all those documents in. The priests look very evil and suspicious...


I thought that at first too - but Jenifer isn't ticked of either. Suggesting they never even boarded the plane in the first place - which would mean they didn't die? The confusion on this whole thing is real LOL

And yeah thats partly why i just asked them bluntly to tell me the answer. That priest creeps me right out.

I tried the priest lists with the death certificates, was wrong. I tried the death certificate on every single node. Everything was also wrong.

I really have gave up trying on the nodes. It was at the point where i was random clicking in a circle everything with everything -however, with the lack of communication they seem to have ( see above post ) I doubt i will get an answer anytime soon.


EDITED

after 151 trys of spamming ALL the nodes in a rotational order -

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
select activity meeting then highlight the start date

then select Death certificates and highlight content


and enjoy reporting - I myself am at this point going with my classic sarcastic report.

BTW please don't expect anything special from the report. The calendar wont let you put the date of his birth in because it wont go back far enough so you need to manually input the date. Also they ask you what else is mentioned in the creepy Hadeans list apart from prisons

So,I tried the only other 2 things mentioned on the list

correctional institutes and i tried hospitals.

nada both wrong

So if anyone gets the answer to that i would be eternally grateful if they could share it.

I think I'm ready for some MOPAIN cyanide now please.

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MiniMII
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Hello!

Hello... I have been following this for quite a while, sort of lurking (lol).
But it really seems that only a few people play this game anymore, so it does feel that the game is rather, well, stagnant?

Haven't been playing as long as the rest, so I haven't received any angry letters yet. My single mail to MOPCOR couple days before (?) for help had a rather pleasant response. So Im still fine with it.

Im left with the wooden doll graph... so if you still need help with any others (the provenance graphs), Ill post what I know.

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mrshomersimpson
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Re: Hello!

MiniMII wrote:
Hello... I have been following this for quite a while, sort of lurking (lol).
But it really seems that only a few people play this game anymore, so it does feel that the game is rather, well, stagnant?

Haven't been playing as long as the rest, so I haven't received any angry letters yet. My single mail to MOPCOR couple days before (?) for help had a rather pleasant response. So Im still fine with it.

Im left with the wooden doll graph... so if you still need help with any others (the provenance graphs), Ill post what I know.


welcome lurker

I urge you to read back on whats been posted to catch up on the happenings.

I consider you to be extremely lucky you receive email replys. I think those that still do play are also very close to walking away. Which as i said before is a shame.

To be fair its not ALL the emails are snarky responses its just seems to be this one person. I assume whoever from the team of however many. One of the guys is just really funny.

However yeah i suggest you look back over the forum posts here to see what has been happening and who has been disgruntled by what.

Im stuck now on the one question

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The document that Father Hadean compiled contains two lists. One is a list of prisons. The other is a list of what?


In the most recent mission report.

My nodes only had one list. It was the same as linda posted above about prisons and correctional institutes and hospitals - none of those are the answer so im pretty stuck the rest of the report i just cant face it so they are going to be dealing with sarky sniper agent Angela - well at least until the groundsman comes back and dobbin gets on his horse and rides off.

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kira1000
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I too am stuck on that same question myself, it is a real shame since the provenance only mentions one list and yet the questions say that there was another list despite what we can see with our own eyes. The death certificates do not count as a list either since I tried using that. @MiniMii you wouldn't happen to be a part of the PM team by any chance? also, for the wooden doll one you need to draw your own provenance using the 3 nodes (doll's creator, doll and doll's recipient) and add the info beneath each node.

The tone that is sometimes used by the PM team when they try and contact the players is also inappropriate, as I mentioned in a previous post they can be quite rude when messaging the players as I have been informed by several other players, the same thing having happened to me on one occasion.

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